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xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 23 2013 16:20 GMT
#659
Dropping my vote on BC for today because he will not be getting lynched today and I don't want to vote split.

##Unvote
##Vote Zephirdd
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 23 2013 16:59 GMT
#670
On June 24 2013 01:32 Acrofales wrote:
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On June 24 2013 01:20 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Dropping my vote on BC for today because he will not be getting lynched today and I don't want to vote split.

##Unvote
##Vote Zephirdd

Wait... what?! So tell me why Zephir is scum. According to you, not according to those other guys voting for him.

Also, I'm catching up on the thread now. I hope I can make an informed decision in the next hour or so, because I have to go out and don't know whether I'll be back for the deadline.

The day is almost over and the only two trains that are possible are Dandel and Zephird. Why are you so surprised that I would vote him?

xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 23 2013 17:06 GMT
#682
On June 24 2013 02:01 Acrofales wrote:
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On June 24 2013 01:59 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 24 2013 01:32 Acrofales wrote:
On June 24 2013 01:20 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Dropping my vote on BC for today because he will not be getting lynched today and I don't want to vote split.

##Unvote
##Vote Zephirdd

Wait... what?! So tell me why Zephir is scum. According to you, not according to those other guys voting for him.

Also, I'm catching up on the thread now. I hope I can make an informed decision in the next hour or so, because I have to go out and don't know whether I'll be back for the deadline.

The day is almost over and the only two trains that are possible are Dandel and Zephird. Why are you so surprised that I would vote him?


1. With almost over you mean we have another 4 hours or so?
2. Because you haven't even MENTIONED Zephir before.

Actually, SnB can wait for another day. Sk8er is trying to kill Zephir without even bothering to figure out whether he's scum or town, hence sk8er is scum.

##vote sk8er

1. 4 hours left in 48 hour day. Yes, it's almost over.

2. Read insightful posts from players I think are Protown on Zephir. My vote on BC is wasted, so I switch to a train that can cause some action.
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 23 2013 17:29 GMT
#700
On June 24 2013 02:14 Acrofales wrote:
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On June 24 2013 02:04 s0Lstice wrote:
After that big post I'd think Austin would be a good pivot for you Acro. What are you doing?

I'm waiting for him to reply, because he seems to be around (at least somewhat) and I am not completely convinced he's scum, but well on my way there.

SnB is based on meta.

sk8er is based on him not giving a shit about who he lynches, as long as someone dies.

Ignoring my post and defending Zephid. Yes, I will not be moving my vote.

About Sol, I have good reason to believe he is town atm. I will post my read on him tomorrow. Last post for the day.

I am not going to rely on the roles people made to give us an advantage vs scum. Unless everyone was like BC and wrote up vigi rolls, then lynches are still very important to the town. Putting your vote on me this late in the day is basically saying you want a no lynch.

I can confirm I did not receive a vig roll or write a vig roll.
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 23 2013 17:33 GMT
#703
On June 24 2013 02:23 Acrofales wrote:
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On June 24 2013 02:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 24 2013 02:14 Acrofales wrote:
On June 24 2013 02:04 s0Lstice wrote:
After that big post I'd think Austin would be a good pivot for you Acro. What are you doing?

I'm waiting for him to reply, because he seems to be around (at least somewhat) and I am not completely convinced he's scum, but well on my way there.

SnB is based on meta.

sk8er is based on him not giving a shit about who he lynches, as long as someone dies.

look at the votecount.

We SHOULD be giving a shit about getting a lynch atm. Who is almost secondary atm.

But you may also keep wasting your vote if you don't give a shit about the lynch.

I know you always play like this, and it is pointless to try and convince you otherwise, especially as I won't even be around for the deadline, so I can't even push a proper counterwagon, but we should be trying to lynch scum, not just randomly lynch SOMEONE.

Especially as I don't even have a clear scumread on the guy who is currently vote leader (which does not really mean anything until he has a majority).

Filtering sk8er again, but by memory, his play boils down to this:

1. Aggressive and trolly start. Unexpected if scum, for being new to the forum. So townie points.

2. Strange reaction to the shot, and didn't actually do anything with it. Not giving out reads, not figuring out what BC's alignment is.

3. Doesn't care where he votes.

Point 1 simply doesn't hold up in the face of 2 and 3. Lets kill him.


And I said it was my last post....

1. Metaing me based on being new to the forum. And here I thought I had meta immunity.

2. The shot doesn't actually give me any information, except that he is willing to kill a town because I fos him and he disagrees with my posts. His role and the shot can't prove an alignment. I leaned towards scum because of how hard he raged.

3. I've only voted twice. BC, which was just a random vote to see how he reacted...and he shot at me....and now Zephid, so that we can have an active train going, instead of derailing.
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 23 2013 18:28 GMT
#727
On June 24 2013 03:12 Kurumi wrote:
Sk8r, did you roleblock BC?


No. I am unsure why he claimed to be roleblocked.

Also if I expected to die, why would I scum hunt? I said - Don't let BC get away with killing a town by saying that I'm just trolling. The argument that I should start scum hunting after getting day shot is poor, since I have no idea when the admin will show and pronounce me dead.

Also I will pull the noob card here, I usually don't play in fms with day vigis killing and then you can just wait for response. Usually the day vigi pms the moderator, and then goes with the day shot. So sorry if my reaction is obviously not what people expected. Different forum meta.




xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 23 2013 18:37 GMT
#731
On June 24 2013 03:29 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Keep in mind sk8 wanted to get shot at night. Stress at night. He said that in thread that he was setting up a night shot on him not day.

He was surprised by the fact I tried to shoot him during the day and not night. This leads me to believe he was attempting to draw (based on his play purely) vig shots for whatever reason. He admitted to playing like a troll and anti town.

Given Acros analysis as well and sk8 being my strongest read I am voting there. I will be back later tonight to talk more but I must run off to see the venue for my buddies wedding.


Day ends in 2 hours, how do you plan on talking more tonight?

The trolling I admitted to was in the start of the game with Dandel. I never admitted to playing anti-town, why are you making this up.

I was surprised but not because that you shot me during the day. It's the fact that a VIG shot me instead of scum.
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 23 2013 18:40 GMT
#733
On June 24 2013 03:32 Zephirdd wrote:
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Also if I expected to die, why would I scum hunt?

Holy shit. Did you really ask that?

If you're about to die, we will get information out of you with a confirmed alignment. That means that, if you die, we know that all interactions concerning you - specially scum hunting - have a confirmed mindset behind it.

In fact, NOT scumhunting at any point is anti-town. Why did anyone roleblock BC ffs.

I'm switching to sk8rboy because I like acros' case and because of the above post.


Read my post on different forums way of doing day vigis. I see scum bandwagoning on this train for poor reasons.

Me flipping town as I said would confirm the players that lovetapped me as not Mafia, since Mafia would avoid letting town activate their abilities.
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 23 2013 18:45 GMT
#734
Sentinal you missed Zephirdds vote on me
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 23 2013 19:11 GMT
#751
Well I am L-3 Now. So might as well claim my RP name so the role creator at least will know how I survived.

My role did not have any limitations on activating it at day. I planned on getting attacked and using my ability to mess up a scum kill. I will not reveal the actual role.

I activated my ability to stay alive during the day. My role is NOT a roleblock, which is why I think BC lied or faked the attack.

I am Sally Sparrow.
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 23 2013 19:15 GMT
#754
On June 24 2013 04:14 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 04:11 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Well I am L-3 Now. So might as well claim my RP name so the role creator at least will know how I survived.

My role did not have any limitations on activating it at day. I planned on getting attacked and using my ability to mess up a scum kill. I will not reveal the actual role.

I activated my ability to stay alive during the day. My role is NOT a roleblock, which is why I think BC lied or faked the attack.

I am Sally Sparrow.


So you said you were certainly dead, but have an ability to stay alive? Why lie?


Was not a lie. I initially assumed my role could not work at day. I pmed the mod for clarification, and since there was nothing saying I couldn't use it at day I used it.
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 23 2013 19:18 GMT
#760
On June 24 2013 04:16 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 04:15 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:14 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:11 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Well I am L-3 Now. So might as well claim my RP name so the role creator at least will know how I survived.

My role did not have any limitations on activating it at day. I planned on getting attacked and using my ability to mess up a scum kill. I will not reveal the actual role.

I activated my ability to stay alive during the day. My role is NOT a roleblock, which is why I think BC lied or faked the attack.

I am Sally Sparrow.


So you said you were certainly dead, but have an ability to stay alive? Why lie?


Was not a lie. I initially assumed my role could not work at day. I pmed the mod for clarification, and since there was nothing saying I couldn't use it at day I used it.


At what point did you receive a response? Please respond in 30 sec.

I sent it at 5:09, received a response at 5:10
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 23 2013 19:19 GMT
#764
On June 24 2013 04:16 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 04:11 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Well I am L-3 Now. So might as well claim my RP name so the role creator at least will know how I survived.

My role did not have any limitations on activating it at day. I planned on getting attacked and using my ability to mess up a scum kill. I will not reveal the actual role.

I activated my ability to stay alive during the day. My role is NOT a roleblock, which is why I think BC lied or faked the attack.

I am Sally Sparrow.


If you thought that you can just say you were fucking bulletproof and say that BC was lying about being roleblocked, AND PUSHED THAT HARD

god damnit.

It's also entirely possible that your protection ability means roleblocking attackers, not holding bullets. I say this because I believe BC is town.

It's also super entirely possible that you are lying hard right now and there is a blocker in your scum team.


You're tunnelling on me is to just derail the train on yourself.

If I was lying hard, I wouldn't have revealed my RP name. The person who wrote my role understands how I survived.
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 23 2013 19:25 GMT
#772
On June 24 2013 04:20 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 04:18 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:16 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:15 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:14 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:11 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Well I am L-3 Now. So might as well claim my RP name so the role creator at least will know how I survived.

My role did not have any limitations on activating it at day. I planned on getting attacked and using my ability to mess up a scum kill. I will not reveal the actual role.

I activated my ability to stay alive during the day. My role is NOT a roleblock, which is why I think BC lied or faked the attack.

I am Sally Sparrow.


So you said you were certainly dead, but have an ability to stay alive? Why lie?


Was not a lie. I initially assumed my role could not work at day. I pmed the mod for clarification, and since there was nothing saying I couldn't use it at day I used it.


At what point did you receive a response? Please respond in 30 sec.

I sent it at 5:09, received a response at 5:10


Could you give us how the role is worded?

Sure. It starts off with my RP name, Sally Sparrow and then some cute themed text. Then it says my role, it's abilities/weaknesses. And at the very bottom it says I win with the Alliance.
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 23 2013 19:26 GMT
#774
On June 24 2013 04:24 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 04:18 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:16 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:15 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:14 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:11 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Well I am L-3 Now. So might as well claim my RP name so the role creator at least will know how I survived.

My role did not have any limitations on activating it at day. I planned on getting attacked and using my ability to mess up a scum kill. I will not reveal the actual role.

I activated my ability to stay alive during the day. My role is NOT a roleblock, which is why I think BC lied or faked the attack.

I am Sally Sparrow.


So you said you were certainly dead, but have an ability to stay alive? Why lie?


Was not a lie. I initially assumed my role could not work at day. I pmed the mod for clarification, and since there was nothing saying I couldn't use it at day I used it.


At what point did you receive a response? Please respond in 30 sec.

I sent it at 5:09, received a response at 5:10


As in 23 hours ago? What time zone are you referring to?

EST
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 23 2013 19:30 GMT
#778
On June 24 2013 04:26 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 04:18 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:16 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:15 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:14 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:11 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Well I am L-3 Now. So might as well claim my RP name so the role creator at least will know how I survived.

My role did not have any limitations on activating it at day. I planned on getting attacked and using my ability to mess up a scum kill. I will not reveal the actual role.

I activated my ability to stay alive during the day. My role is NOT a roleblock, which is why I think BC lied or faked the attack.

I am Sally Sparrow.


So you said you were certainly dead, but have an ability to stay alive? Why lie?


Was not a lie. I initially assumed my role could not work at day. I pmed the mod for clarification, and since there was nothing saying I couldn't use it at day I used it.


At what point did you receive a response? Please respond in 30 sec.

I sent it at 5:09, received a response at 5:10

Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 05:13 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
How long should we consider waiting before we realize BC just tried to fake day shoot me.

This was at 05:13. I'm assuming you're using TL's KST timing here.

So you knew by this time(assumed) that you would survive the shot. Why are you still considering BC faked a shot on you here?

Why didn't you consider talking about your bulletproofness at this point in time, when the thread was already going insane?

Me claiming I wanted to get shot didn't hint anything to you? I denied the shot, because scum knowing that I am immune to shots can eliminate me as a possible night target.

For the record, I am not claiming bulletproof, just that I activated my role to survive this shot. So feel free to still shoot at me, Mafia.
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 23 2013 19:31 GMT
#782
On June 24 2013 04:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
votecount

Votes:


BC (0) - Sk8rguy, Dandel Ion
WoS (0) - geript, Xatalos, Meapak
Dandel Ion (1) - Kurumi, Zephirdd, geript
Kurumi (0) - geript
SnB (0) - Acrofales
Acrofales (0) - WoS
austin (0) - kitaman, Dandel Ion
geript (0) - Dandel Ion
s0lstice (3) - Xatalos, WoS, Dandel Ion, Zephirdd
Zephirdd (4) - austinmcc, s0lstice, Dandel Ion, Sk8rguy, Meapak
Sk8rguy (6) - Acrofales, Kurumi, ???, BloodyCoobler, Zephirdd, sk8rguy

Bubbas not voting: strongandbig, Crossfire99, gonzaw

Sk8rguy is the leading bubba with 6 votes. 9 votes are needed to lynch a bubba.

Tell me if I missed anyone. Only votes in the voting thread count!

Lynch is in


You have me voting for myself here >_>
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 23 2013 19:46 GMT
#797
On June 24 2013 04:33 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 04:30 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:26 Zephirdd wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:18 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:16 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:15 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:14 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 24 2013 04:11 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Well I am L-3 Now. So might as well claim my RP name so the role creator at least will know how I survived.

My role did not have any limitations on activating it at day. I planned on getting attacked and using my ability to mess up a scum kill. I will not reveal the actual role.

I activated my ability to stay alive during the day. My role is NOT a roleblock, which is why I think BC lied or faked the attack.

I am Sally Sparrow.


So you said you were certainly dead, but have an ability to stay alive? Why lie?


Was not a lie. I initially assumed my role could not work at day. I pmed the mod for clarification, and since there was nothing saying I couldn't use it at day I used it.


At what point did you receive a response? Please respond in 30 sec.

I sent it at 5:09, received a response at 5:10

On June 23 2013 05:13 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
How long should we consider waiting before we realize BC just tried to fake day shoot me.

This was at 05:13. I'm assuming you're using TL's KST timing here.

So you knew by this time(assumed) that you would survive the shot. Why are you still considering BC faked a shot on you here?

Why didn't you consider talking about your bulletproofness at this point in time, when the thread was already going insane?

Me claiming I wanted to get shot didn't hint anything to you? I denied the shot, because scum knowing that I am immune to shots can eliminate me as a possible night target.

For the record, I am not claiming bulletproof, just that I activated my role to survive this shot. So feel free to still shoot at me, Mafia.


WHY do you think a scum player would waste a bullet on you after you just survived a dayvig? wtf?! You living is also beneficial to mafia in regards to discussion. Why do you still expect to receive a bullet on your head, when it's pretty obvious that you surviving would be amazing for scum? Answer: you don't, because you are playing the martyr card.

The discussion is only beneficial to Mafia because players like you and BC are tunnelling me hard, which is preventing other discussion. I have only been defending myself, to prevent a mislynch.


On the contrary, me surviving allows me to gather more information and because of the roll given to me I can CONFIRM my town alignment. At least one other player knows how I can do this, which is why I am still a threat to the Mafia. Any confirmed town role = threat to scum.
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 23 2013 19:48 GMT
#801
On June 24 2013 04:44 Crossfire99 wrote:
Sigh...I didn't want to have to do this, but looking at the voting thread and thread sentiment I have to speak up. I created sk8r's role and know how he survived his shot. That is all. Now lynch someone besides him because I don't think he is mafia.

##Lovetap Crossfire99
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 23 2013 19:58 GMT
#814
In case someone thinks we are actually making some kind of Scum powerplay. Do you honestly think a scum would sacrifice themself so early to protect another scum? The fos against me is fairly weak, after I revealed my RP and had it confirmed by crossfire.

So we know that

1. I did not roleblock, and suspect BC to be lying of his vigi attack. The only thing that suggests it was a real attack was the post by the host about processing a few actions. I know one of those actions is mine.

2. I can confirm my town alignment with my role. I don't think crossfire meant for it to work that way, but I also don't think he expected me to be able to activate it at day. Loophole master sk8.

3. Zephids FOS against me started after he had a strong lynch train on him. So obviously he did not suspect me or was not posting about it, and then decided I was the easiest target to derail his lynch on to.

My top two scum reads are Bloody Cobbler and Zephids. After I do a filter on Acro I will post a read on him. But he is my gut feeling for third scum.
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