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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 22 2013 19:04 GMT
#361
On June 23 2013 03:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 03:45 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
You didn't even bother answering why you aren't pushing your scum reads. Why aren't you? Making lists with 0 reasoning behind it or solid commitment to your read is useless and is incredibly scummy.


You are my scum read, which I have committed to pushing. Making a day 1 list of who I think is scummy is not scummy. Of course i'm not going to push them, because really they are just lists. If you want to be technical, yes I was not serious when I said 100%. It's day 1, you should assume that I was not 100% sure.

Defending and discrediting me so hard on day one however, is scummy.


Hearing that you died d1 your past few PTP's makes me feel bad. I might consider doing a pity unvote.


Discrediting you? Defending myself?

I can arguably be doing the second only in the fact I AM PUSHING YOU TO ACTUALLY POST YOUR REASONINGS.

You walked into a thread voted me before I posted and then have not explained jack shit aside from "i think hes scum" Good job. You aren't trying to convince anyone else I am scum. IE you aren't trying to get your highest scum read lynched IE you aren't doing playing to the town win con.

Pity unvote? Sounds more like you want a reason to back off me to avoid any heat. Tough shit you now have people watching your play.

As for me discrediting you? How did I do so? I asked you questions you refuse to answer. You say you are committed to pushing me but you haven't attempted it once. You then say making a list is not scummy? It is if you provide 0 reasoning and refuse to provide said reasoning.

I dunno, the paranoia he's exhibited towards his role and his constant discussing it, along with the usage of it in the first place makes it seem as though he knows people have been watching him all game thus far. Whether he's worried about being under pressure from you remains to be seen.

The lack of proper play is concerning but I am not convinced yet.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
June 22 2013 19:05 GMT
#362
On June 22 2013 07:40 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 07:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:36 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
I'm coming in STRONG guys. Time to make a huge impression on my first game.

##Vote BloodyC0bbler

We aren't allowed to hint at our role right? I don't have any meta advantages like the rest of you guys, so I'll just be going by my gut.

Oh I'm so impressed.

Now could you respond to Wave's case on you?

Thanks.

His case has some merit, but I could point out some pretty obvious flaws in his arguments.


WoS has not posted a case yet apparently it has merit (how does a non existent argument have merit) it also apparently has flaws.

he then responds to

On June 22 2013 07:49 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 07:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:40 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:36 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
I'm coming in STRONG guys. Time to make a huge impression on my first game.

##Vote BloodyC0bbler

We aren't allowed to hint at our role right? I don't have any meta advantages like the rest of you guys, so I'll just be going by my gut.

Oh I'm so impressed.

Now could you respond to Wave's case on you?

Thanks.

His case has some merit, but I could point out some pretty obvious flaws in his arguments.

Well his arguments about your mental inability from refraining of posting cat pictures with the overarching connection theory that scum players tend to be cat people have a lot of merit, and his points about your easy acceptance of the confirmed scum flip acro's excuses also resonate deeply with my soul.

Look at austin. He's a dog person. that must mean he's town. You howver are a cat person. JUSTIFY THIS BULLSHIT

Well I guess i'm going to have to reveal.

I was blackmailed into only posting cat pictures. I promise I would never post a cat picture, it sickened me to have to go find those pictures and repost them for you guys.

I think mafia right now are - COBBLER and his teammate who forced me to post cat pictures.

Also uhm...I don't know how to say this without being awkward but....Can I get a ##Lovetap ?
##Lovetap Dandel Ion


Showing he is actively trolling with dandel. He is in no way attempting to create an atmosphere you can even play in while also attempting to get people to activate his role with 0 reasoning. Combined with his play I have already mentioned this guy is either the single worst player I have ever seen, or is scum.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 22 2013 19:08 GMT
#363
@WoS I'm around just rereading.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
June 22 2013 19:09 GMT
#364
BC friggen stop. The first post you quoted was obviously a joke. What are you doing?
ATOBTTR
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 22 2013 19:09 GMT
#365
On June 23 2013 04:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 07:40 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:36 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
I'm coming in STRONG guys. Time to make a huge impression on my first game.

##Vote BloodyC0bbler

We aren't allowed to hint at our role right? I don't have any meta advantages like the rest of you guys, so I'll just be going by my gut.

Oh I'm so impressed.

Now could you respond to Wave's case on you?

Thanks.

His case has some merit, but I could point out some pretty obvious flaws in his arguments.


WoS has not posted a case yet apparently it has merit (how does a non existent argument have merit) it also apparently has flaws.

he then responds to

Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 07:49 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:40 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:36 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
I'm coming in STRONG guys. Time to make a huge impression on my first game.

##Vote BloodyC0bbler

We aren't allowed to hint at our role right? I don't have any meta advantages like the rest of you guys, so I'll just be going by my gut.

Oh I'm so impressed.

Now could you respond to Wave's case on you?

Thanks.

His case has some merit, but I could point out some pretty obvious flaws in his arguments.

Well his arguments about your mental inability from refraining of posting cat pictures with the overarching connection theory that scum players tend to be cat people have a lot of merit, and his points about your easy acceptance of the confirmed scum flip acro's excuses also resonate deeply with my soul.

Look at austin. He's a dog person. that must mean he's town. You howver are a cat person. JUSTIFY THIS BULLSHIT

Well I guess i'm going to have to reveal.

I was blackmailed into only posting cat pictures. I promise I would never post a cat picture, it sickened me to have to go find those pictures and repost them for you guys.

I think mafia right now are - COBBLER and his teammate who forced me to post cat pictures.

Also uhm...I don't know how to say this without being awkward but....Can I get a ##Lovetap ?
##Lovetap Dandel Ion


Showing he is actively trolling with dandel. He is in no way attempting to create an atmosphere you can even play in while also attempting to get people to activate his role with 0 reasoning. Combined with his play I have already mentioned this guy is either the single worst player I have ever seen, or is scum.


Can't handle the trolling and me voting you, so I am now the single worst player. I'm honored, there are so many others you have played with and I get the award?

Please take day one more seriously.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
June 22 2013 19:10 GMT
#366
On June 23 2013 04:04 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 03:49 s0Lstice wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:45 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
You didn't even bother answering why you aren't pushing your scum reads. Why aren't you? Making lists with 0 reasoning behind it or solid commitment to your read is useless and is incredibly scummy.


You are my scum read, which I have committed to pushing. Making a day 1 list of who I think is scummy is not scummy. Of course i'm not going to push them, because really they are just lists. If you want to be technical, yes I was not serious when I said 100%. It's day 1, you should assume that I was not 100% sure.

Defending and discrediting me so hard on day one however, is scummy.


Hearing that you died d1 your past few PTP's makes me feel bad. I might consider doing a pity unvote.


This actually makes him look more town imo. The stuff you are doing in regards to him is not at all going to get him lynched, so as scum he would be free and without fear to let you call him scum with no reasoning, and to no effect, rather than put fuel on the fire by getting in your face about it.



Sure. You can see it that way. This is Day one, so a lot of my 100% scum reads are going to likely change.

First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend.

Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be.

Then he tries to get me to change my vote to SnB. As you said, my pressure is not going to get him lynched so why would he care if he had one vote on him? I didn't want to be derailed.


Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 03:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:17 Kurumi wrote:
I am known for trollish behaviour but I can't recall last time I made a picture for a Mafia game, that's Palmar or Blazinghand you're speaking of geript.

BC, do you think you might die to D1 lynch?


Don't care if I do. Anyone dumb enough to lynch me day 1 is completely retarded. I get suspected every game day 1 and i am almost always town when this happens. Ptp is prime example of this.

I actually had no meta experience of BC, so my voting did not matter from this. For a guy trying to be apathetic about getting killed day 1, he is trying very hard to keep that from happening. Against my very weak fos.


Perhaps you should read up on my play. Me wanting to deny your use of role is exactly what I would do as town. I have no idea what your alignment is and only know my own. Why on earth would I want someone who could easily be mafia using their power? Roles do not equal alignment. Just because you have a role that potentially requires others to activate doesn't mean you are town.

As for hard to defend? I AM PRESSURING YOU TO GIVE REASONS FOR READS. I have no even attempted to say "NO DONT LYNCH ME NO PLEASEEEEE"

Can you stop making shit up please.

#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
June 22 2013 19:10 GMT
#367
On June 23 2013 04:09 s0Lstice wrote:
BC friggen stop. The first post you quoted was obviously a joke. What are you doing?


honestly? Debating whether or not to kill him.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 22 2013 19:11 GMT
#368
On June 23 2013 04:04 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 03:49 s0Lstice wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:45 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
You didn't even bother answering why you aren't pushing your scum reads. Why aren't you? Making lists with 0 reasoning behind it or solid commitment to your read is useless and is incredibly scummy.


You are my scum read, which I have committed to pushing. Making a day 1 list of who I think is scummy is not scummy. Of course i'm not going to push them, because really they are just lists. If you want to be technical, yes I was not serious when I said 100%. It's day 1, you should assume that I was not 100% sure.

Defending and discrediting me so hard on day one however, is scummy.


Hearing that you died d1 your past few PTP's makes me feel bad. I might consider doing a pity unvote.


This actually makes him look more town imo. The stuff you are doing in regards to him is not at all going to get him lynched, so as scum he would be free and without fear to let you call him scum with no reasoning, and to no effect, rather than put fuel on the fire by getting in your face about it.



Sure. You can see it that way. This is Day one, so a lot of my 100% scum reads are going to likely change.

First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend.

Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be.

Then he tries to get me to change my vote to SnB. As you said, my pressure is not going to get him lynched so why would he care if he had one vote on him? I didn't want to be derailed.


Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 03:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:17 Kurumi wrote:
I am known for trollish behaviour but I can't recall last time I made a picture for a Mafia game, that's Palmar or Blazinghand you're speaking of geript.

BC, do you think you might die to D1 lynch?


Don't care if I do. Anyone dumb enough to lynch me day 1 is completely retarded. I get suspected every game day 1 and i am almost always town when this happens. Ptp is prime example of this.

I actually had no meta experience of BC, so my voting did not matter from this. For a guy trying to be apathetic about getting killed day 1, he is trying very hard to keep that from happening. Against my very weak fos.

Whoa, wow.
This post is horrible and reeks of bias.
First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend.

You have absolutely no way of knowing this whatsoever. My role is pretty damn hilarious. What does it mean that I just said that?

Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be.

I also denied you your role, you know, because you could be scum and giving you an advantage is bad?

You are completely neglecting to take into account town perspectives in your post at all, and it looks as though you're just trying as hard as you can to place BC in a scummy light.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 22 2013 19:20 GMT
#369
I'm defending my FOS. You guys can think that I'm the worst player ever if you want. In all honestly I have no real reads, but you asked for some, so I attemped to give them.

Also BloodyCobbler has revealed he has a killing ability.

My role is pretty weak / lame. I just giving you my opinion, you know in this game that is based on opinions?

Also if I was Mafia, It would be pretty dumb of me to gather this much attention. I find that this day has actually been fairly useful.

s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
June 22 2013 19:25 GMT
#370
WoS, I know you don't <3 me, but how about you answer the question you asked me earlier?

I'm also curious to know what happened between this:

On June 23 2013 02:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 02:07 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:46 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
StrongandBig, WaveofShadow, and BC are the scums 100%. Sk8 for MVP.

Thank you, good night.

Also about my role, the player who wrote it wanted to gain an advantage on player roles. Everyone suspects something, but only he and I know what it does and now he knows the role he received and mine. Possibly more if he is scum.

I thought about not doing it, but then he still wins if he is scum by knowing i'm out there not using my abilities.

Meta-scum >

Care to explain exactly what you're talking about in this post?

Also sorry about letting my tryhard pants fall off, guys, I forgot to put on a belt and someone pantsed me.
In all honestly the reason my posing twas crap then picked up and devolved again is because having never played in this kind of a game before I wasn't exactly sure how seriously people take it and how hard town/scum really try to win (ie do people scumhunt as normal with crazy as fuck roles flying around). It seems as though while there is likely to be more trolling in a game sch as this, people definitely do still want to win; as such I will begin to contribute in earnest.


I'm still not sure of you, Acro. Why haven't you commented much on what Xatalos has to say about me aside from you sharing his suspicions? I am arguably his strongest scumread and so I probably warrant discussion, yet you keep bringing conversation into role-claiming/setup speculation type stuff.


First part -
My suspicions currently based on posting and defending. I don't know about the Meta, perhaps these players are known for defending other towns. Note I have not changed my vote.

Second part -
Self explanatory. Whoever wrote my role now knows that they wrote it. If I die, it's because of this and that they flipped mafia.

I don't think it's self-explanatory at all.
Acro, I am neither a fail scum or an inept townie. It's not going to be that easy for you, my man.

As far as scumreads go, don't have any yet, aside from you. If you're so keen to drive conversation along towards other reads all of a sudden, do you have any others?


and your unvote that caused the unvote. Was your read on Acro just for shitsngiggles mainly?
ATOBTTR
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
June 22 2013 19:25 GMT
#371
On June 23 2013 04:20 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
I'm defending my FOS. You guys can think that I'm the worst player ever if you want. In all honestly I have no real reads, but you asked for some, so I attemped to give them.

Also BloodyCobbler has revealed he has a killing ability.

My role is pretty weak / lame. I just giving you my opinion, you know in this game that is based on opinions?

Also if I was Mafia, It would be pretty dumb of me to gather this much attention. I find that this day has actually been fairly useful.



You are defending your FoS but you have no real reads and lied about some because you were asked? You are also using a WIFOM argument as a defense.

Fuck it. I have no tolerance to deal with this bullshit all game

Jack the ripper has claimed another victim
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 22 2013 19:27 GMT
#372
On June 22 2013 11:59 Acrofales wrote:
Only way Kita is retarded enough to do this is that he is either in xxx's scumteam or made the lovetap role.

Just throwing that out there.

Oh, and

##vote Kitaman27


On June 23 2013 02:27 Acrofales wrote:
As for who I have suspicions about? I've mentioned them in my filter.

SnB: I expect more from him.
WoS: for fumbling over the tryhard pants.
Zephirdd: for being angry at people for not posting anything useful while not posting anything useful.

Slight pings on my scumdar:
Kurumi: for being D1 Kurumi
BC: for being D1 BC and coming up with a pretty bogus artificial reason for being against my plan.
Xatalos: for seeming insincere in his early tryhard posts.


FOS Acro for claiming to believe that I'm either scum or the xxx role creator and then proceeding to leave me off his list of suspicions. Makes me question whether or not his reads or real. I also think enough people have shot down his bad role claim idea that he doesn't need to continue pushing it. He is sharing enough opinions though that I don't want to lynch him yet though.

Does anyone remember off the top of their head what was the game where tnkted (?) had that role where he had to get people to respond to his ## power in the thread? I had thought it was PTP 1, but apparently not.

I don't like skater or WoS lynches right now.

##Vote Austin

I think austin would be a good person to consider right now. He commented on a role plan that had already been beaten to death and that's about it.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
June 22 2013 19:28 GMT
#373
yea well I think skater just died...
ATOBTTR
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 22 2013 19:29 GMT
#374
On June 23 2013 04:20 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
( 1 )I'm defending my FOS. You guys can think that I'm the worst player ever if you want. In all honestly I have no real reads, but you asked for some, so I attemped to give them.

( 2 ) Also BloodyCobbler has revealed he has a killing ability.

( 3 ) My role is pretty weak / lame. I just giving you my opinion, you know in this game that is based on opinions?

( 4 ) Also if I was Mafia, It would be pretty dumb of me to gather this much attention. I find that this day has actually been fairly useful.


Added the numbers myself:
1 - FoS is meaningless. if you have no reads, say so, and come up with some after you do some real reading of the thread.

2 - Are you serious?

3 - Once again, this has absolutely no alignment indication whatsoever. It doesn't matter what people's opinions of their roles are or whether they are in fact weak or strong---people can act in whatever way they feel like while having those roles.

4 - WIFOM

Hey Acro.
If I'm noobie town or bad scum, what does that make this guy?


BC what did you just do
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
June 22 2013 19:29 GMT
#375
On June 23 2013 04:28 s0Lstice wrote:
yea well I think skater just died...


unless he has an ability that defends from day shots, yes, yes he is.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 22 2013 19:32 GMT
#376
Solstice I do, I do <3 you.
The vote on Acro wasn't for shits and giggles, but the manner in which he has posted has somewhat appeased me a little lately. I think kita summed it up nicely in that Acro will remain on my radar but I could look elsewhere for now.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 22 2013 19:34 GMT
#377
On June 23 2013 04:29 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 04:28 s0Lstice wrote:
yea well I think skater just died...


unless he has an ability that defends from day shots, yes, yes he is.

Well this is awkward. Am i not supposed to post if I get shot. Will there be an rp about me dying.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 22 2013 19:34 GMT
#378
On June 23 2013 04:29 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 04:28 s0Lstice wrote:
yea well I think skater just died...


unless he has an ability that defends from day shots, yes, yes he is.

See, now we have a problem. If he flips newbie town (which may or may not have been completely obvious depending on how you think about it) then you may again be finding yourself getting lynched D1.

Reasoning: I don't think his posting warranted a vig shot as he was contributing. This means the rationale for a shot like that is supposedly that BC thinks Skater is scum, which given the way he has played isn't completely obvious. Skater could very well have been noob town and BC is good enough to know this.
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Canada31495 Posts
June 22 2013 19:34 GMT
#379
On June 23 2013 04:34 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
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On June 23 2013 04:29 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:28 s0Lstice wrote:
yea well I think skater just died...


unless he has an ability that defends from day shots, yes, yes he is.

Well this is awkward. Am i not supposed to post if I get shot. Will there be an rp about me dying.

Either host is AFK at the moment or BC faked something/something got messed up.
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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
June 22 2013 19:35 GMT
#380
You are alive until a mod flips you.

I hope I'm wrong, but I really am not a fan of this BC. He was at least talking a lot, and would have been readable more and more as we continued...annoying or not, I think you just killed a townie.
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