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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 03 2013 17:24 GMT
#3613
On July 04 2013 01:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
dec how in the shit did so many people end up with their own roles
When I found out I had my own role, dec told me I was the only one it happened to.

I was gonna jump all over BC D1 because I thought he was lying as not-mafia before things got cleared up.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 03 2013 18:10 GMT
#3617
ROLE SO STRONK.

All three of those options win the game if I'm not overly paranoid. Bullshit Anti-Mafia Voltron indeed.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 03 2013 18:26 GMT
#3620
On July 04 2013 03:15 gonzaw wrote:
Well austin, you forget he has to be alive by N3, and can only use it that N3 (I thought he could only use it at N4 since I thought he would get the item the NEXT phase).
Also it's one shot

Hmm...although I had it thought with more players in mind lol. I thought that by N3 there would be like 10-13 players alive, so he using them right there wouldn't be that OP; but if he kept them for longer he could get shot/lynched

Also, if Xfire was scum, wouldn't it be Bullshit Anti-Town Voltron?
Oh yeah, it's purely a result of the context. It could certainly be Bullshit Anti-Town Voltron, although if you aren't mafia with him you can either (1) try and get him to pick bad options or (2) tell town everything he can ever do, assuming he ever gives up that he has your role. Someone with that role might not know on D1 how powerful it could be in the future, and might say it's yours.

I think I'm just salty that the role made things difficult. I did jack all this game except try to get kita lynched and try to figure out what you and crossfire were going to do during night phases.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 03 2013 18:43 GMT
#3627
Some MIGHT say that's not a good thing, and we were doing the world a service. lololol
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 03 2013 18:48 GMT
#3628
On July 04 2013 03:42 geript wrote:
To be fair, I only got to resurrect if I got shot twice in a cycle or decided not to absorb a hit. That's was my problem. There was no intention put in to balance the game.

That's somewhat the nature of PTP. I hope for PTP games to be more "fun" than "balanced," the first bit of this game was so tame for PTP, until everyone started resurrecting and whatnot.

Even if we'd had a fourth mafia member, there were so many roles with a wide variance: my role, Inventorizer, crossfire, strongandbig, solstice, plus the random movement of the TARDIS...I don't think you actually CAN balance that out.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 03 2013 19:01 GMT
#3634
On July 04 2013 03:54 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 00:41 austinmcc wrote:
On July 03 2013 09:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Austins power was so fucking pro town that he blended in so well with terrible townies -_-
I ended up hating the first part of my role. Every time I've made a PTP role, I'm thinking of something fun from a town side of things, not really one that's great for everyone.

I figured someone would get the role, send out messages, give away something pro-town (with the option for roleblocker if mafia got it), and then over the course of 2-3 days amass a bunch of info about who chose what, be able to release it and maybe do something good.

In mafia's hands, especially with only 3 of us and getting outed early, it was "Force yourself to give town powers." I send out PMs, have to claim the PMs eventually, and then it becomes horribly obvious that I've been gifting powers to mafia if I ever do. I can't even fake anything, because I'd have to fakeclaim both a fake target of my role-gifting AND lie about someone choosing that person AND have that person on the list anyway, because the second person-chooser would know if they weren't.

I could have maybe given us a vig somewhere, but it would have come out later. Stupid role just couldn't be NOT pro town, the best I could do was give vet or hope people mediced the targets I thought they would.



Also, as far as roles are concerned, I loved the idea of a choose your own adventure role, almost made one as well, but...I don't think I like how they work in actuality. At least for the other faction, knowing that gonzaw knew crossfire's role, could lead him to all the good choices and none of the mediocre, and could talk in code with crossfire. The choose your adventure role becomes a quasi-mason AND is toughish to balance because instead of having all these choices, crossfire can be told what choices to make each time for the best outcome.



Tip for next time: don't make a role that only works for town
Yeah, I learned me a lesson. I thought about submitted a role for each alignment, but...then that sucks because it gives you extra information about alignments.

Next PTP I'll just give up on actual powers entirely and give somebody an enormous list of bonus win cons.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 19:37:59
July 03 2013 19:36 GMT
#3638
PTP5: PY(PTP)

Everyone creates a role, roles are all in the open and get drafted?

e: With some extra roles thrown in or something.
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