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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 27 2013 20:22 GMT
#1307
Well lets hope you are right about the other two because you aren't right about me. I don't see why they would all vote against SnB when scum have more information than town but you seem to be of the wrong = scum variety so there we have it.

Whatever -_-
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 28 2013 05:13 GMT
#1319
On July 28 2013 14:08 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 13:18 kushm4sta wrote:
Yup mocsta scum or else he would have been modkilled.

(1/20)
Firstly. I was reading the thread as a casual observer so am fully up to date with how the thread has played out.

Secondly. I can understand why it is easy to make a statement as kush made above. However, in this instance it is incorrect.
If you want to bicker over "outgaming" the mods. It is equally valid to state that if another town was modkilled, we would be back in lylo.

Thirdly. Has anyone been able to do a vote count analysis on the snb lynch? I recall several said it was worthwhile, but I don't recall reading a detailed conclusion?

Lastly. I have been informed I am masoned with rayn. Rayn I assume there has been dialogue between you and Adam? If so, is anything worth sharing?


The analysis is basically that everyone thinks scum was stupid enough to anti-pile on SnB and somehow the logic is holding up now that korynne is dead, but I still attest that I am not scum.

The other important things to note from today

marv is confirmed town.

There IS a serial killer.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 28 2013 05:27 GMT
#1321
On July 28 2013 14:22 Mocsta wrote:
(2/10)
Don't forget rayn is confirmed town with a flipped scum pardoner.

Vayne.
With an SK about, is your focus this cycle to hunt SK or hunt remaining scum?


Remaining scum. There's 2 left only 1 SK. Besides it seems the SK is helping us out so why bother him?

Also yes, if rayn claims the sloosh pardon then we can confirm him as town given the role PM of korynne. But then I will want to know why he lied to us about that if he did indeed pardon him.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 28 2013 05:44 GMT
#1323
some retarded theory I had is that rayn is a serial killer pardoner but that seems a bit farfetched. its a Ver game though so who the fuck knows. The flips this game so far have been fucking hilarious.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 28 2013 14:38 GMT
#1343
I don't feel good about just auto-lynching MZ since oats was actually trustworthy. I think wiggles is honestly a better lynch at this rate. With the Korynne flip it looks like they WERE actually trying to use my vote to accomplish killing marv. I don't see the scum motivation behind MZ switching his vote last second unless MZ and mocsta are the last 2 scum. ( since adam was afk and could not swing the vote, he changes his vote last sec)

That's where I'm at right now. If it's wiggles I dont know who his partner is but if MZ flips scum I can safely say mocsta (adam) is his partner.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 28 2013 14:43 GMT
#1344
On July 28 2013 15:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 14:40 Mocsta wrote:
(3/25)
Wow. Nice pick up on korynne role pm. I just assumed it was applicable to everything.
Hmmm rayn does need to address this.

Mz is essentially confirmed scum with the parity checks. I would prefer we hunt remaining scum though.



please explain how I'm confirmed scum lol


shit tho, that last comment. Option 2 might actually be really likely lol
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 28 2013 14:49 GMT
#1346
On July 28 2013 23:43 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 23:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't feel good about just auto-lynching MZ since oats was actually trustworthy. I think wiggles is honestly a better lynch at this rate. With the Korynne flip it looks like they WERE actually trying to use my vote to accomplish killing marv. I don't see the scum motivation behind MZ switching his vote last second unless MZ and mocsta are the last 2 scum. ( since adam was afk and could not swing the vote, he changes his vote last sec)

That's where I'm at right now. If it's wiggles I dont know who his partner is but if MZ flips scum I can safely say mocsta (adam) is his partner.


I'm basically mulling between MZ and Wiggles.

MZ really seems to be my "blind spot" this game if you like. But he basically saved my ass, right?

Wiggles just looks terrible in every way.



well false actually. Without the threat of adam (mocsta) there way no way for you to get lynched. Even if there was a scum sitting on SnB waiting to switch, SnB still would have been lynched. So MZ's effort now looks more like an attempt to gain some cred.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 28 2013 14:51 GMT
#1347
Also we can throw that wiggles theory out the window, we weren't even close to getting endgamed since there's an SK. Mafia did NOT need to lynch you to win.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 28 2013 23:03 GMT
#1357
On July 29 2013 08:01 marvellosity wrote:
What are you on Meapak? I have a greencheck on me from a flipped cop. If you died and flipped town right now I wouldn't give a shit because I still wouldn't be getting lynched because it would be totally retarded.


He thinks you are godfather remember?

It's no more far fetched than him being miller. That's why I think the wiggles lynch is the best today tbh. He's just laying low hoping for meapak to write his own grave probably.

We should really lynch wiggles.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 29 2013 00:53 GMT
#1372
actually im sorry but you are the one that is wrong here rayn if you were truly trying to trick me.

the scenario was marv being GF and meapak being miller. They would be of different alignments.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 29 2013 01:00 GMT
#1373
voting wiggles btw

##vote: Mr Wiggles
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 29 2013 01:35 GMT
#1375
I feel like some one hacked your account or you went in a time portal or some shit. Nowhere did I say that was the most likely possibility.

Marv was upset that meapak is tunneling him still and I reminded him that he thinks he could possibly be godfather.

You should really re-read or something because that last post is just baffling.

Also we already had a mafia pardoner flip...And if there was two it says you still can't pardon scum so idk what that is even about
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 29 2013 01:37 GMT
#1377
and yea I'm sure wiggles has been busy for like 2 weeks now or whatever it is but conveniently has had time to vote for every cycle xD

any1 else find that post rayn just made weird?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 29 2013 01:41 GMT
#1378
On July 29 2013 08:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 08:01 marvellosity wrote:
What are you on Meapak? I have a greencheck on me from a flipped cop. If you died and flipped town right now I wouldn't give a shit because I still wouldn't be getting lynched because it would be totally retarded.


He thinks you are godfather remember?

It's no more far fetched than him being miller. That's why I think the wiggles lynch is the best today tbh. He's just laying low hoping for meapak to write his own grave probably.

We should really lynch wiggles.


This is why I want to lynch wiggles. He isn't doing shit, probably just hoping to ride out the cop checks. Until he gets involved that's where my vote will be.

With 2 parity cops I also find it pretty likely that there is a miller in the game so it would make sense.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 29 2013 01:56 GMT
#1380
On July 29 2013 10:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 10:37 VayneAuthority wrote:
and yea I'm sure wiggles has been busy for like 2 weeks now or whatever it is but conveniently has had time to vote for every cycle xD

any1 else find that post rayn just made weird?

You, of all the guys do not trust night checks / kills. You, the same guy who says "i don't do shit on D1 because of no information from night phase" is now ignoring the night actions. You push on some retarded conspiracy theories over a confirmed cop checks assuming a godfather AND a miller AND they happened to be checked the same night by 2 different confirmed parity cops?

I think you are trying to look better when Wiggles turns up scum, because SK!meapak now if alive has to help mafia, because you are in a fucking bad spot.


A few things here

I'm not ignoring the night actions. In fact due to the night actions and how wiggles has acted it makes him more scummy.

I pushed a "retarded conspiracy theory" yesterday for my vote on marv. Why the sudden change in attitude over one that is wayyy less farfetched?

IM NOT ASSUMING A GODFATHER FOR THE LAST TIME. I know its tough to read since I fail at it a lot too but you seriously need to re-read. I ONLY THINK MEAPAK IS MILLER. NOWHERE DO I THINK MARV IS GODFATHER. MEAPAK THINKS MARV IS GODFATHER.

ok now that you hopefully understand that.

Yea I'm bussing my last partner for cred when I can get shot at by SK at any moment and lose the game there. When I refused to bus my other teammate SnB at a way more convienent time. That makes so much fucking sense how did I not see that!

Please think logically about what I just said and realize that just as I was wrong about you, you are wrong about me here. Its borderline retarded.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 29 2013 02:00 GMT
#1382
you just highlighted your own answer. Meapak is miller. FT/Marv town. thats what I think.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 29 2013 02:01 GMT
#1383
If you want to continue this then ask me to mason you because I have very few posts left for this phase
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 29 2013 02:05 GMT
#1385
Oh I finally get what you are saying. You should have just said that first.

Okay yea meapak needs to explain that.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 29 2013 16:23 GMT
#1413
On July 29 2013 12:42 Mocsta wrote:
(11/25)
Freudian slip.

Read the quote. Substitute Marv for vayne.

I have done a detailed filter read on both kush and vayne.

I personally don't like kush, but COULD see him as town.
Vayne on the other hand has some characteristics that are sounding large bells.
Specifically he loves to debate semantics that have no major bearing on scum hunting, and then glosses over game changers.
E.g. his reaction the snb firing a vig shot was to pass it off as not alignment indicative.

Where I get stuck with vayne is stuff like pointing out the korynne role pm. I found that really useful because as soon. As a I saw red pardoner I just assumed it was the logic puzzle that solved rayn so never actually read the pm... I guess the converse is that if he was scum, he was already award of korynne deficiency so it was natural to be able to point this out?

I still want a wiggles lynch. Don't get me wrong, he is my focus for lynch.
I'm just trying to stimulate more Convo.



I really need posts btw, so if i could get some donations that would be great.

if you did read my filter then you saw that I explained in pretty large depth why I saw SnB as not scummy once I put the pieces together. That was obviously wrong. You're pulling a koshi here and not moving on to the present, being static in your reads which is weird since you replaced in.

I pointed out the role PM because I thought it showed that rayn had not been being truthful with us but it seems he is upholding that he never pardoned. So I guess there's a 3rd pardoner or he's still lying. Still not sure there but as you said we can take care of the weird shit the following cycle.

The fact the vote is so close right now confirms my suspicion that wiggles is just going to lurk and hope for the best since he knows opening his mouth will fuck him like it did SnB. He's gonna try and drop a vote on meapak last second and see if it works. There's no doubt in my mind he's scum at this point. We gave him plenty of time.

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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 29 2013 16:26 GMT
#1414
On July 29 2013 17:11 Koshi wrote:
VA. You would agree that you look insanely scummy right now? After the SnB flip you were advoacting that we had to look at the people voting SnB without reason, now after the Kyronne flip you are currently voting for Wiggles.
You do realise that you are the 4th guy that was off the SnB wagon?


Can we get some SK hunting in here or are we going to ignore that problem? If we would get the SK this lynch that would be perfect for town. So why are we ignoring it?
My list is still the same. With marv being on top, this was his defense on my previous accusation:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 23:28 marvellosity wrote:
I'm clearly not the SK. I have a greencheck on me. What's wrong with you people?

1) there's no reason to believe SK gets to "choose" between alignment/one-shotbulletproof

even given 1),

2) I WOULD NEVER CHOOSE TO APPEAR GREEN OVER BULLETPROOF. I've been shot more times playing mafia than almost all of you have played games of mafia.

There's approximately a 0% chance I'm SK at this stage, just on basic logic and deduction.

Anyone pushing that line of thinking is highly suspicious or very stupid.

I love Mocsta for pointing out that hapa was able to choose green or bulletproof. That makes marv his second point perfect. Because he doesn't lie and he hides the fact he is the SK because of that.
Also, why would the SK be able to choose between bulletproof and greencheck? Where did that come from? Maybe it was just being green in the setup? It looks like scum has only 1 KP this game or SK was able to always overlap with scum. So bulletproof looks pretty unlikely.

Can we please discuss the SK issue? I am pretty sure that we found them scummies.


No, I don't think I look scummy at all. I've been trying to solve this game the entire time, just as much as anybody else. You try to use static information to incriminate me but fail to incorporate time into the equation.

Look at people for bussing SnB = before night killings

voting wiggles = after korynne flip

Yea I realize I am the 4th and I explained that a bit back ago as my change of heart. I did not think korynne was mafia so the fact that he was made me think differently about the whole situation. I realized that scum may have tried to use my vote to get the lynch on marv through.
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