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On July 19 2013 18:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Why the fuck would Ace the scum fakeclaim to lynch a townie when it would basically secure his lynch tomorrow, he is already under something of a hotseat (but not that threatened compared to MZ, sloOSh) that's a 1:1 scum trade with a townie, Ace is one of the best scum in the history of TL Mafia I don't give a fuck about WIFOM he would NEVER do that. I already proved FirmTofu was scum on Day 1 but no one wanted to read! There is no defense FirmTofu can give. He should be completely ignored at this point.
The lynch is already decided. We need to determine if we have another town day KP or who we can shoot tomorrow night, bring out yamato/FT's teammates.
Splintering wagons onto Ace may have been a ploy to save sloOsh in the case that he was lynched.
He literally did it in Roulette Mafia as scum. Claimed cop day 2, lynched his check day 2, got lynched day 3.
So yeah, he WOULD do that actually.
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On July 19 2013 18:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Would he do it twice in a row? This fits my confirmation bias that I am almost 100% sure that FirmTofu is scum regardless, so I'm not willing to venture into conspiracy theory territory. If a cop claims a guilty check, that's where our votes needs to go. If he sacrifices 1:1, then the town still one. But let's consider yamato throwing suspicion onto Ace right away in PMs to me, he's saying a lot of the same things i think I recall firmtofu saying as well, didn't FT want to lynch Ace instead of VE at a certain point?
Look for anyone that sheeped Yamato in the meantime, but FT is cooked.
Lol, from NEVER to never twice in a row?  I hope Ace knows he's sane. I also desperately hope that Hiro was a weird mafia-hit, because that would be hilarious.
I'm willing to roll with the red check, also willing to lynch kholly who is 99% mafia to me by now. Also if we could conjure up a double lynch so I could spite-lynch MZ, that would be lovely.
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We probably need to be lynching s&b for that shot.
First, kholly.
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MZ is probably douchebag town, vote for kholly please.
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On July 20 2013 19:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No townie should be a douchbag and he is clearly not even trying to play the game, and when he is he is saying bad stuff.
For example, see how he answers the Oats case. He is not even looking at the case but instead saying "i don't see anything scummy in his filter". He hasn't done anything that helps town and MZ is not that bad.
Kholly is second on my list.
Yo lurkers, if you are town gimme some posts as you cleraly don't need them. I do.
I don't really care if no townie should be a douchebag, for some reason he's decided to be for much of this game.
Kholly is way more likely to be mafia than MZ. kush thinks I didn't "defend" VE enough so I'm not going to let you vote for someone I think is a bad lynch compared to Kholly.
strongandbig - I would like to know who you talked to in PMs regarding your shot on Ace, and if there are any logs of you doing so. If it was a unilateral shot then... well, yeah.
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You're ok Koshi. I'm your guardian angel for now <3
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Vayne, I don't really like much of anything you posted there about kholly/s&b/layabout etc. I don't think it's scummy, just not good. In my opinion it's a massive mistake to write a terrible shot off as "he's apathetic" because it's too easy. At the very least massive, massive pressure should be applied to s&b for what he did.
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On July 21 2013 03:36 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2013 03:30 marvellosity wrote:
You're ok Koshi. I'm your guardian angel for now <3
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Vayne, I don't really like much of anything you posted there about kholly/s&b/layabout etc. I don't think it's scummy, just not good. In my opinion it's a massive mistake to write a terrible shot off as "he's apathetic" because it's too easy. At the very least massive, massive pressure should be applied to s&b for what he did. Why would SnB, who has already been under heavy pressure this game, willingly post in the thread that he is going to shoot somebody? Makes zero sense from a logical point of view if he is scum. If you can answer me that then maybe I will give the case more weight. Until then it's just scum looking for a reason to off another PR.
There's no logical town-reason to shoot Ace either. People always seem to fail this test. Does it make sense as scum? No? As town? No? Usually if it doesn't make sense from either alignment it points towards scum. I learnt this from LI as a freshfaced newb when I couldn't work out VE's claim from either a town or a scum perspective and it confused the fuck out of me, and it turned out to be some elaborate scum ploy.
If scum have a day-vigi shot, then they are going to use it. Take LX as an example, Chezinu was mafia and just shot some townie... because... he had a shot. To kill a townie. For free. And then people like you (I don't mean that derogatively, just people in general taking your attitude) say "but why do that as scum". Well, to shoot a townie and have other people defend them with wifom, that's why.
Looking at it from your perspective, s&b has gotten away with shooting Ace for no god-damn reason because of your "well why would he" defence. Bad.
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I could say why Meapak would do that as town but it wouldn't be polite.
You've picked up on the apparent effort that s&b has put into some of his posts compared to the Ace shot, so how that ends up as null to you is pretty baffling to me, to be quite honest.
Shooting Ace like that when at the very least there's Malongo/kholly/probably various others is super serious.
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So yeah I'm appearing very briefly because typing is hard
kill kholly for fuck's sakes you useless twats
that will be all
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oh yeah, and now Nuclear has finished.
Chezinu killing some random townie because he could in Nuclear ----> s&b, who has also conveniently disappeared. whatever.
People let these important things slide for reasons that are totally beyond me
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um, ##donate: the rest of my posts to whoever claims them next
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On July 21 2013 14:11 slOosh wrote:
Crap so sorry guys I went to my first wedding and didn't realize how long it would take, will step up tomorrow
First things first: if you can come up with a plausible theory of how/why you were pardoned, I will be deeply impressed.
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Gosh, what will I do now that you don't like me going after kholly?
In any case, I already have someone in the thread who shares most of my opinions. Possibly more later when I've chatted more. Feel free to mason me if you wish, because the chance of me making some nice-looking posts is probably quite low.
Sunny day, nobody about, cricket's on, spliffs being smoked. Priorities :D
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On July 22 2013 15:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Marv was telling me he agrees with FT but would rather lynch Kholly but doesn't do anything in the thread really to put traction on that, since I already had some traction early on, why didn't he default back with me? I'm assuming that's not what happened but I guess I can't really speak until I catch up.
Because kholly is/was a better lynch, silly. Anyone talkative have a spare mason? The fun I was having this game was chatting with Vivax (almost unbelievably, perhaps).
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Oh and if Vivax isn't calling me mafia, it's pretty likely I'm not mafia guise. You know what town-Vivax is like. Anyway there's like billions of players to kill, so first things first
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On July 22 2013 19:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah but Vivax wasn't actually calling you town marv.
Vivax never calls me town. Him not wanting to lynch me is a big step up, you know.
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On July 22 2013 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have been suspicious of you from the point when i learned you were masoned with Vivax. You guys have a fuckton of discussions with each other, yet you can't agree to a lynch of any sort. You havn't really helped the town to get on the right track and we have been discussing useless stuff in thread.
I think you have been no help this game and that's not characteristic for you marv. That's why i believe you are mafia. It's been two cycles and you have basically wanted to lynch kholly with shitty reasons, and who btw is probably town.
Why is kholly probably town? I keep missing this memo? If anyone has good reasons for that to be the case, I'm listening.
If you genuinely believe I decided to spend hours and hours of my time in an IRC chat with Vivax as mafia for giggles, then I don't know how to help you. I don't have that dedication (any more, anyway).
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You have a greencheck on him or something?
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Thank you, very productive.
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