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@Stutters695 I don't understand why you want to lynch s0lstice. | ||
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Alright. Right now my Zephirdd is my MUST LYNCH WITH INTENSITY scum read. His early posting seems very careful such as "Ace said pre-game how this benefits town, so it should be a nobrainer right?" It's like he thinks this is a good plan but he'd rather hear what someone else thinks before he makes a decision on it. I mean "nobrainer" and "right?" are just two words that shouldn't be in the same sentence unless you're kinda split on where you stand. In this post he gives someone the advice to go look at Smurf Mini Mafia, a game which couldn't have less to do with this game. He wants him to just avoid meta analysis which seems like a scum move to me since meta analysis can be really good. Also this post seems really off. Scum care a lot about how they appear in the thread and this post looks like he wants to appear like a guy who just votes for a strong player with no fear or hesitation (ostensibly a townie trait). He doesn't do this as town though, looked through his last three games (all town games) and in all games those games there wasn't a single vote like this. He always has reasonable for his votes. So yea, I feel that right now Zephirdd is the right way to go. A combination of posting style and the weird Ace vote. ##Vote Zephirdd How 'bout it fellas? | ||
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On June 04 2013 19:56 Oatsmaster wrote: I think that you bring up good points, and I wanna sheep you ![]() Why did you vote me first then? | ||
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On June 04 2013 22:10 layabout wrote: ##vote: jaybrundage Could you type out the case? | ||
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You can do better than that. | ||
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I'm pretty sure that "nobrainer, right?" isn't an idiom. "nobrainer" and "right?" might be but you can say "This is a nobrainer." and that means something and then you can say "This is a nobrainer, right?" and that means something entirely else. It's the difference between those two that I was focusing on that that's entirely valid. The "look at Smurf Mini Mafia" point might have been a little stretched. | ||
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On June 05 2013 08:06 Stutters695 wrote: Prpl so then why did you neglect to mention that Zephs first post in GSL was a vote on you and that he was an SK in Rock Band? It's used as an idiom where I'm from but that point doesn't really matter, it was just worth mentioning because that's how I interpreted it. Okay, I never checked his alignment in Rockband Mini Mafia because I remembered that the scum team was Palmar, HiroPro, Ange777. I had no idea that game had an SK, thought it was a regular mini. The Kenpachi reasoned vote was still a vote with a reason he found fairly important (I remember discussing this with him), it wasn't a random vote for no reason. | ||
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On June 05 2013 08:19 Stutters695 wrote: Alright I can understand that, thanks for the responses, they make sense. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now. Who do you have a scum read on right now? Rereading the thread tomorrow but off the bat: slOosh: (obviously) He didn't do anything this game but he did say that he has some personal issues and almost didn't play in this game. He still needs to do something though. raynpelikoneet: This guy is pretty good and I don't see any of that so far. He hasn't done much so far and I don't like any of it. Also layabout and Ace have been lazy but they're often lazy (especially layabout). jaybrundage is also someone I'll look into harder and then a bunch of people I didn't take much notice of yet. So I'm pretty undecided but I'll reread tomorrow and make up my mind. | ||
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Who says I don't want to lynch Ace? Well I do! (now) I just don't feel it. Ace is useless but it looks more like afk than anything else, the lynch will net us absolutely nothing. I hope (and think) that there are scummier people around. | ||
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I don't think [UoN]Sentinel is overly scummy. I don't really think your case on him is strong. He does seem rather uninvested in the game but he did explain his WaveofShadow vote and he's prodding here and there. I don't think he's overly town but I don't think he's overly scum either. Would not lynch as it is. raynpelikoneet is being little scummier. + Show Spoiler + highlighted with bold On June 05 2013 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's one of my points against stutters. He himself obviously did not even check the mexican standoff fully. And SK is more likely to play as town because they do not have teammates. Other than, why the fuck would you make a meta case on someone who just said he is trying to change his "meta" because in last games of his he has been up for D1 lynch regardless of alignment? Nothing prplhz has done this game is particularly scummy imo. If there is something i have missed, let me know Stutters. I don't think this is valid at all, seems like a really weird defense of me. On June 05 2013 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Prpl; you asked me about jay and wos. I need to hear more from him. I know from some games ive read that he is a possible lynchbait if town, but i don't like him using that as defence. Would lynch if he is not willing to do shit. About wos. I don't like his stance on lurkerlynches early on in the game. Why bring that up? I also don't like his stance on jay. How on earth does what Vivax says about jay being a lynchbait affect wos' opinion? Why does wos just take vivax at face value if he thinks jay is scummy? that is scummy. ##Unvote ##Vote: WoS btw i think vayne is town. He has a weird playstyle but his defence on me is 100% correct. My activity is not alignment indicative. I dont want to lynch stutters any more. I misread some stuff in his prpl case, and his response to my vote was a townie one. He did not get overly defensive. I also think prpl is town. Im gonna look more into other people tonigh. Ace, who do you want to lynch and why? Time to start doing stuff if you are town. As you said, why didn't this make raynpelikoneet suspicious instead of just accepting it as "Holy fuck that's surprisingly good so he's probably town!". His vote is also on WaveofShadow who is a bad lynch. Very lacklustre performance from raynpelikoneet so far. How do you feel about VayneAuthority? | ||
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On June 06 2013 00:45 slOosh wrote: I don't feel like moving on prplhz, your answers are waffly. I never said Sentinel was overly scum, I just think out of the pool we have right now, he is one of the better choices, and I think your evaluation of him is too gracious. The fact that you find rayn a little scummier but choose to spoiler it is disconcerting. Like, who the heck are you suspicious of? Clearly I find a problem with Sentinel but you want to bring up new suspects. Do you think vayne is scum? My answers aren't waffle, I never said that you said [UoN]Sentinel was overly scum, it's not really disconcerting and you should really think I'm town by now. I did way more already than I did in my last many games town or scum games. Yes, I think I want to lynch VayneAuthority. ##Vote VayneAuthority | ||
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On June 04 2013 11:45 VayneAuthority wrote: Guess you'll just have to find out. Meta can suck it. This isn't a normal setup anyway so I don't see why it matters. Of course I am gong to be playing way differently I think this post is really weird. "Of course I am going to be playing way differently" what the hell? Townies usually play the same and don't make huge changes in their play because they play the best town game they can. That doesn't change from game to game. VayneAuthority seems very concerned about people reading him. His early game drunk-not-drunk trolling also seems very focused on himself and seems nervous. He also prods but doesn't seem like he wants the game to move forward. On June 05 2013 15:29 VayneAuthority wrote: because hes useful if he decides to try later, no point mislynching him when there's a good chance mafia will kill him for us if he's not scum. There, just shutting Oatsmaster down but not trying to move the thread forward. | ||
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I also don't think it's characteristic for scum to martyr in the way he does. There are no feelings in it, just some very collected thoughts about how "if you want to lynch me for inactivity then do it on day1 because it will not get better", that's actually very reasonable but it's not anything scum would say and I think scum would be much more emotional about martyring. In short, I think raynpelikoneet is a bad lynch today and I really don't think we should lynch him. He's actually contributing really well considering that it appears that he really doesn't have much time for this game and the weird VayneAuthority read is not enough to make me want to lynch him. | ||
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On June 06 2013 07:17 Zephirdd wrote: ugh I've been kinda busy since my last post, why did the activity rise up @_@ and I have to go in 15min too I think rayne is far less useful than Oats, because I think oats is being too stupid for a scum but he is active, and rayne said he'd have work for 1.5 weeks. also rayne's last post: This was 3:15 hours ago. He has 45 minutes to convince the whole thread(me not included, I'll be away) that there is someone better to be lynched, and claims that he will be a liability close to/at lylo. Yes, I am lynching him under the basis that he is useless, rather than the basis that he is most likely to be scum. Simply because my scum read is not a scum read anymore(ie. I think WoS is town) and I don't have a strong scum read atm, so I go for the second option. I'm out This is strictly bad and if both you and raynpelikoneet are town (and it looks like that's what you think) then scum is being all "lulz" right now. | ||
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On June 06 2013 07:18 VayneAuthority wrote: All people that do not want rayne lynched hop on the mkfuba wagon, its numbah wan Go Oatsmaster. He has three pages full of a dumb contrived Ace push. | ||
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I am all for lynching [UoN]Sentinel tomorrow. | ||
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On June 07 2013 18:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Vayne and prplhz voted for Oats and defending Ace on little evidence despite public opinion, are we having a repeat of the rayn lynch? Can we be right twice? ##unvote ##vote: ace what the frig? | ||
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I don't see why a scum Ace would want to trade 1-for-1 with some townie that people were already throwing suspicion on. The most logical conclusion then is that he is town who got a red check. I'm not willing to dismiss a red check because of the 1/9 offchance that you're the miller. There are also some other things pointing at you being scum such as your weird Ace push yesterday and how you wanted us to lynch outside of you and Ace. Scum would obviously want that because if Ace flips town then you're dead the next day, delaying this little duel you have going will net you extra KP for another cycle which is bad. | ||
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On June 07 2013 20:41 Vivax wrote: ##Vote Oats Oats is the cop check. We lynch him first, ez. Why do you want to lynch someone because he is the cop check and why are you saying "first"? Who do we lynch second then? | ||
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On June 07 2013 21:57 Oatsmaster wrote: So much pressure. Kita for one. Prp, if you think im town, Ace must be scum right? In all likelihood. | ||
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But he sure is fighting for his life in a most impressive fashion. | ||
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On June 09 2013 01:32 jaybrundage wrote: Yea But outside of the pool of Oats/Ace who would you lynch. That's not really interesting right now as we're lynching into Oatsmaster/Ace. | ||
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it just doesn't make sense unless he's miller which is just very unlikely | ||
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On June 10 2013 08:09 Ace wrote: get your vote off of me, we're lynching Kita today i think not | ||
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JarJarDrinks said that Ace would only fake a red check if scum was up for lynch, and [UoN]Sentinel was up for lynch because of the scumslip. I kind of agree with this but I think I need to think it over anyway. | ||
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Vivax was the 4th vote for raynpelikoneet. At this time the thread was clearly turning against raynpelikoneet because the last couple of votes cast were all on raynpelikoneet. Not just this but the votes (by WaveofShadow and mkfuba07) were accompanied by analysis (and I had complimented WaveofShadow's analysis). Vivax' vote for raynpelikoneet seems rather fake, "All aboard the wagon of justice" but no analysis or anything, it's just a vote (but formatted like it's actually something else, contrast Stutters695's vote which is also just a vote and also looks like what it is). Then VayneAuthority makes a silly vote and Vivax notices this, however he does not react on it in any other way than pointing it out. Then WaveofShadow points out the exact same thing and only then does Vivax find the courage to vote for VayneAuthority. The town Vivax I remember from other games doesn't hesitate to vote for people, he just does whatever the hell he wants all the time but this is a lot more restrained. Then after that he moves his vote back on raynpelikoneet: On June 06 2013 03:28 Vivax wrote: If you're town the site you come from breeds really bad blood. ##Unvote ##Vote Rayn Can you give me an opinion on Rayn's last post? He pretty much says "If you're town then you look scum" and then he moves his vote away again. This all looks weird and restrained and like Vivax is looking for opportunities rather than looking for scum. The rigged poll was also really weird. That said I believe that he really has exams and this considered he's actually been putting in a decent amount of effort. I also don't think that Vivax and [UoN]Sentinel can be scum together (simply because of this post so I'm going to look into [UoN]Sentinel now). | ||
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![]() ##Vote [UoN]Sentinel | ||
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seems silly to recommend a lynch on one scum buddy and a check on the other in a single post | ||
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and there's no discussion | ||
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that you are not a dt with a red check on me | ||
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gonna write something at some point before i get lynched | ||
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i'm around though. if you want to communicate with me then try to be useful instead of saying "u suck m8". | ||
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On June 18 2013 06:28 jaybrundage wrote: If your town you really aren't playing the part. If we have another scummy mofo who happened to roll town i wont be happy. you're* | ||
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that's really the only point in the cases that i think is even worth adressing because the rest is weird conjecturing about how i do this and that and doesn't point at scum at all. just gonna take whateverthefuck from kita's case "prplhz is scum because he didn't push anything in first 24 hours of d4", well neither did anybody else lol. so we're all scum? something from jay's case "Shitting on Sent lynch Hell hardcore defending him. WHILE VOTING FOR HIM. He acts so emo about it. Awww poor Sent we shouldn't be voting for him. He has a green check BLA BLA BLA. ALL the WHILE VOTING FOR SENT." i'm not entirely sure what jay is saying here but i don't think it points at me being scum at all. i also think it's a gross misrepresentation of me that i'm "emo" and "awwww" when i say (and people agree) that the lynch was kind of risky. i guess most people would think so when they're lynching a green check. anywaysssss | ||
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why would i even do all that as scum unless vivax is my scum buddy? you guys were lynching vivax with absolutely no discussion and i had already expressed interest in that lynch, seems like a no brainer that i'd just drop a vote on vivax and watch you guys do nothing until vivax dies. part of the reason i wrote a vivax case was also that you had requested it and because some discussion is always good. unfortunately it pretty much turned into no discussion and people h8in' on me. | ||
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long story short: i liked your case, not so much mkfuba's. i just believed that rayn was really actually busy and i wanted to give him a chance because i know he's really good and can appear really townie (whatwasthatgame, Ego Mini Mafia he was really impressive in that game). it was a bad decision and next time i shouldn't be soft on someone just because he might be busy. | ||
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can't really argue with that because i genuinely thought he was the towniest guy by far when i posted. he didn't do anything notable since then so i'd obviously reconsider now but on d1 i thought he was townie. was the reason i thought he was town bad? also "it's something scum would do because it's easier for you to do if he's town and if he's scum then you give him town credit" don't you mean "it's not something scum would do because it's harder for you to do if he's scum and if he's town you give him town credit" ? | ||
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i also don't think that lay is scum because he's pretty out there with crazy ass opinions. look at him actually voting for fuba on d3 wtf i don't think scum could do that with a straight face. i'm more suspicious of jay/vivax. stutters and vayne are second tier. | ||
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also if people want to lynch vayne then i'm all for it but i'm all for pretty much anyone who isn't me. | ||
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anyway, i was town. | ||
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