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On May 28 2013 07:09 Promethelax wrote: Rng says 14 Lol, I just assumed that you had picked my position on the list. This game is filling up fast though, damn. | ||
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Also Monday would be ideal start date for me, as usual my weekends are pretty packed. | ||
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/out then :p + Show Spoiler + obviously joking | ||
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I'd say we lynch s0l for that but last game I was wrong so that's probably a mistake. As always, expect an activity decrease on the weekend. I'll still post but it'll be sparse. | ||
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On June 04 2013 09:00 prplhz wrote: @VayneAuthority Why 31? @Stutters695 I don't understand why you want to lynch s0lstice. Was a joke from Les Mis. I attacked him d1 for pointing out he never rolled scum in a manner that implied he was looking for town cred, but I was wrong in that game. | ||
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On June 04 2013 08:59 s0Lstice wrote: I think he is saying he doesn't do much on day 1 and wants to see a flip before he puts work in? Yeah that makes sense, same thing he did in les although he was scum there. I need to check if he does that every game. | ||
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The only focus was me not understanding what he originally said. | ||
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On June 04 2013 10:53 layabout wrote: I have an idea! Instead of that, we just lynch you Oats? @stutters basically, town doesn't really benefit from knowing who you think is town but scum do since it makes you easier to manipulate. If a bunch of players say that somebody is town based on weak reasoning/little information then people will strengthen their read due to other people agreeing with them. This is quite problematic if said person is scum and it can happen quite easily if everybody is swapping townreads. There are other reasons but i cba it's 3am. Fair enough, I disagree with some of it but I can understand your reasoning. I'd say that's only a problem if people are being timid (which is generally obvious) and that town reads are pervasive into the general thread sentiment anyway. I don't want people just posting their most to least scummy lists but if someone disagrees with a scumread I'd like to hear why someone else has a town read. | ||
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On June 04 2013 11:27 WaveofShadow wrote: Narp. Ok setup spec bores me. Wat we do till something happens? I haven't really read the scum qt from Les Mis, was JJD active in there despite his lack of posting in the thread? | ||
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On June 04 2013 12:28 JarJarDrinks wrote: Probably since that's generally been my scum gameplan: Lurk as much as I can get away with. Though obviously I'd have to change it up @ some point or I'd be pretty easy to read. This seems like a wierd thing to bring up. Like u could easily go look @ the QT and find out for yourself. Instead you want someone else to point it out. Especially since a few people in Les Mis mentioned that I had done that exact same thing in my previous scum game. I brought it up for discussion proposes since we're not very active right now. I'm aware of your previous scum game from Les Mis but I wanted to know about Les Mis specifically. It's not worth my time to go read that when we're barely into d1. Anyway I'm about to go to bed, might post once or twice tonight. | ||
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On June 04 2013 20:39 Oatsmaster wrote: I havent really read through the thread all that specifically yet. I think random voting is horribly inaccurate and you should never do it. I'm awake and caught up on the like fifteen posts. Seriously, what are you doing at all then? Care to contribute? ##Vote: Oatsmaster | ||
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On June 05 2013 02:08 Zephirdd wrote: I'll give him the benefit of doubt, but he is right up there on "people I want dead" list. what do you think of WoS play so far? TBH I'm not really sure, his first scum game was very good and I had a town read on him throughout so take this with a grain of salt. The post you voted him for stood out to me for similar reasons. The red herring part is a good point but it isn't lynchworthy on its own. Last game he played up the never rolled scum angle(he was scum), but he also brought it up with me in LXI (town). I'd like to see his response. The lurker lynch I could totally understand from him as either alignment. He just played in a lurk heavy game as scum, so if he rolled scum again he could be feigning frustration but if he's town he could be frustrated by how easy it was for them and how scum this game can do the exact same thing. I don't think he's a good d1 lynch because he is usually active and gives sound reasoning behind his reads. If he doesn't appear more or is doing just enough to not be lynched then we lynch him but he's a bad d1 target imo. I'd say null. | ||
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JJD can you read what I said about WoS. Does that change your opinion at all? | ||
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Oats trolls a shitload. My thinking at the time was by getting him near death he would actually contribute and we could read and decide what to do based off of that. The issue is that after checking past games I didn't play with him, if he gets lynched he trolls all the way to the noose (especially as town). Regardless of how Oats looks right now, I've found a much better lynch today. Note, because of the general lack of activity so far, this is a very meta based case: Prplhz This game + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2013 19:25 prplhz wrote: hey i'm trying to post more because usually i get brought up as a lurker lynch on d1. that didn't use to bother me but i decided before this game that maybe i should try not to get brought up as a lynch d1 in every single game i play. also people complain at me for not having clear scum reads on d1 so i'm just going to pretend that my very tentative scum reads are MUST LYNCH WITH INTENSITY scum reads instead. Alright. Right now my Zephirdd is my MUST LYNCH WITH INTENSITY scum read. His early posting seems very careful such as "Ace said pre-game how this benefits town, so it should be a nobrainer right?" It's like he thinks this is a good plan but he'd rather hear what someone else thinks before he makes a decision on it. I mean "nobrainer" and "right?" are just two words that shouldn't be in the same sentence unless you're kinda split on where you stand. In this post he gives someone the advice to go look at Smurf Mini Mafia, a game which couldn't have less to do with this game. He wants him to just avoid meta analysis which seems like a scum move to me since meta analysis can be really good. Also this post seems really off. Scum care a lot about how they appear in the thread and this post looks like he wants to appear like a guy who just votes for a strong player with no fear or hesitation (ostensibly a townie trait). He doesn't do this as town though, looked through his last three games (all town games) and in all games those games there wasn't a single vote like this. He always has reasonable for his votes. So yea, I feel that right now Zephirdd is the right way to go. A combination of posting style and the weird Ace vote. ##Vote Zephirdd How 'bout it fellas? His first point against Zeph is the wording of "no brainer, right?" I didn't question it because its a commonly used idiom, hardly a scum tell. Prplhz's profile says from Denmark so that's probably lost in translation, at worst misrepresentation. The Smurf Mini point: Again, misrepresentation. Jayunbridge was complaining about not having experience with players to use meta, Zeph was telling him to play without worrying about meta then, not telling the thread to avoid meta arguments entirely. And now the meta points about Zeph's voting style: Going through his past 3 games Zeph's TL Mafia history, I see Dr. Who(Town), Mexican Standoff (Scum and No Lynching period), and Rockband Mini (SK). If he actually went and looked through his last 3 games, he's lying out his teeth, and if he meant he looked through his last 3 town games, blatant misrepresentation (3/3 on that in this case). Now onto Prplhz's meta: In his past six games (4town, 2scum) he has a blatant scum meta. I've included the six games below. In the scum games he makes attacks based off of loosely based arguments that are easy to back out of and their use of meta arguments. He gets upset when people don't respond to his weak, early cases. You'll also notice that he is much more engaged as town and doesn't go for D1 cases without asking questions. + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler [Scum Games] + Carnival, LIX So I propose we lynch Prplhz ##unvote ##Vote: Prplhz | ||
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On June 05 2013 04:06 Vivax wrote: FUCK FUCK FUCK I JUST DELETED MY MASSIVE POST FUCK MY LIFE I don't need quote by quote analysis but give me a rundown on who your #1 lynch was before you type up your post again. | ||
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Try reading it and providing an actual reason if you disagree. | ||
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Vivax you should get the scum mentality I'm showing here. It's the exact same thing you tried to do to me in YANMM. The scum point of view being he's intentionally pushing a false case to appear contributing/secure a mislynch which can easily be brushed off as just a misguided meta case if Zeph flips town. I was trying to keep the case impartial and let people decide themselves, but if you want an argument for lynching him without the meta portion: 1. He blatantly lied Zeph's previous games. 2.He blatantly misrepresented the Smurf mini point. 3. (possibly) He misrepresented(scum)/misunderstood(null) an idiom and used it as a point of attack. There isn't a single portion of his case that is based on facts. He hasn't appeared involved in town, he just shows up and drops a case then bounces. Without the meta, that's scummy alone. With his meta, its damning. | ||
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On June 05 2013 04:47 JarJarDrinks wrote: So if I'm understanding this correctly: Rayn is voting Stutters cause his case on Prplz is bad and Stutters is voting Prplz cause his case on Zeph is bad?  I think most of stutters case is pretty weak except for this point: And what is weak about it? If you take the time to actually read my case, Carnival, and LIX its painfully obvious. Go through his other games I provided and compare how deep into the games he posts a point by point case to both his scum games and his play this game. There is a reason he gets caught as scum fairly often. | ||
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The SK is playing for whatever side is losing and isn't an accurate representation of town meta. Vivax makes a good point that he might have not counted standoff, but then the next game by my count is GSL (town) but his very first post was a vote on prplhz for the kenpachi rule. Hardly great reasoning for the vote like prpl implies (maybe you guys value the kenpachi rule more than I do but I think it's dumb). Vivax your questions are coming up, I'm at work now so longer posts take some time. | ||
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I don't agree with your conclusion Vivax. Your points in isolation of the thread would be very scummy but I agree with his points on Jay. I also haven't played with Jay so if this is his MO then I'll re-evaluate but I understand your conclusion, but given his other posting and his case on Jay I don't think he's a d1 lynch. | ||
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Sorry I'm phone posting so I'm not really proofing. I mean your points on s0l make sense, but in the context of his entire filter this game it seems the town explanation for s0l is more likely currently. S0l isn't d1 material to me, Jay I could get behind. | ||
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Because if he isn't here then worrying about him is pointless. His pregame post also implies that he wasn't going to be around at the beginning of the game. We deal with him when he shows up. | ||
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It's used as an idiom where I'm from but that point doesn't really matter, it was just worth mentioning because that's how I interpreted it. | ||
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Who wants to talk? | ||
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First for me is Fuba. Check out his long post his only suspect has been Vayne and with his answer he takes some time to defend himself and waffles on Vayne. Very noncommittal, doesn't really pressure and has been mia. I haven't played with Fuba in ages but I remember him being much more active. Do you think he's strapped for time and town or a scummer getting by due to the relative inactivity. | ||
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I would probably lynch him currently. He's not this inactive usually and it worries me. At this rate we're going to excuse half the thread for lurking and I'd rather not lynch into people who are here to read. I guess that applies to everyone though, I fucking hate day 1 | ||
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I'm not too keen on a scum s0l currently. The points you and Vivax made make sense but his most recent post gives me pause. He called out Vivax's dismissal of my Prplhz case almost exactly how I would have but at the same time in that post he doesn't actually comment on it, just that he'd check out the meta later, which still hasn't happened. Would really like to hear his side soon. More to come | ||
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He's here though so I'd like to hear his thoughts on the day in general but I'd put him under s0l in terms of who I'd lynch. | ||
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Also, where are you Ace? | ||
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girlfriend was naked and rolling around on the floor. Friend was naked because he had pissed himself on my rug while his boyfriend ran and jumped into the pond to go swimming. Other friend shit himself and the fourth guy threw a beer into my neighbors face who laughed it off. My trip was really uneventful by comparison, but goddamn. shrooms, not even once On topic Rayn seems like a good lynch. | ||
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On June 06 2013 09:11 WaveofShadow wrote: Haters. ALLLL YOU HATERS Yay maybe this means my meta analysis is actually getting better. Rayn doesn't sheep, this game he sheeps. So this means mafia is pretty crippled right now, huh? DI changed to kp rounds up so they're still at two. Hopefully we get a sick medic save. | ||
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I also don't think Ace was a guaranteed lynch without the claim. I need to check both of you guys but right now I'm finding it hard to believe ace would lie when it wasn't absolutely necessary. | ||
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On June 07 2013 23:50 kitaman27 wrote: I think you have to treat continued absence as a scum tell, otherwise it establishes a policy that it's fine to disappear without consequence. Continued absence without any posting sure, but when there is posting there is stuff to interpret. People accuse me of being scum when I'm absent all the time, but reading my posts should make it pretty obvious I'm not. Rayne avoided saying anything in his posts and was lynched for it. Oats throwing out incredibly unlikely theories of how Ace is lying because he is absent isn't a reason to lynch and he should be showing how his posting shows that he's absent with the intent of avoiding discussion or something equally scummy. Hopefully that makes sense, typing from my phone. | ||
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Did you think I was scum d1? If so do you still think so? If not what changed? | ||
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It's a shitty metric but I can't read him for shit. I always think he's scum, expect the one time I played and he actually was. | ||
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On June 08 2013 06:47 Stutters695 wrote: The I can't pull it up on my phone but he trolls way closer to being lynched as town unless there are some scum games I haven't seen where he does main difference between town oats and this game that I can tell is oats usually tries a bit harder as scum and is more likely to troll until he's lynched as town. It's a shitty metric but I can't read him for shit. I always think he's scum, expect the one time I played and he actually was. Too hard to link on my phone, here's the quote it hit buried pretty quick | ||
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I'm open to change if there is a good reason but right now I don't see it. | ||
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That and the fact that scum Ace should be wise enough to realize that a 2-1 trade isn't in scums favor when we still haven't mislynched. I really can't read oats though and that worries me. | ||
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8 town deaths, 9 total which puts us at 4-3. | ||
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On June 10 2013 05:03 Ace wrote: zeph, sl0osh, Oats. 2 Town tonight, Me, 2 Town tomorrow night ??? So when you guys advocate not checking me, why didn't I take that as an out and run? Here's my issue though Ace. Assuming you are scum, either you or a scum buddy rolled cop n1. With that knowledge and Oats general level of play a mislynch is easy to secure. You're also certainly aware of the odds of him getting miller being very low and that when you call for a cop check, we can't trust the result anyway because of both Miller and the possibility of a scumbuddy rolling cop and claiming you're green. If your play was more like LXI I'd probably be hesitant, but I don't see how we can trust you at all. | ||
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On June 10 2013 05:57 Ace wrote: Aww I'll take that as a compliment. Although I'd like you to point what is so un-Town like about me this game. So here's my question. Imagine you get cop night 1 this game. Your top scum read comes back with a red check. You are under no pressure of getting lynched. Would you claim? In essence tell me what you would have done differently than I did because this isn't making sense to me. I'll give you what I see non-town tomorrow during the day, too busy right now to quote/explain my concerns. I would have done the same thing if I was town. However if I was scum and rolled cop n1 I would also probably do the same thing and fake the check then talk my way out of the mislynch. I'll talk more about it later, gotta go though. | ||
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On June 12 2013 08:11 VayneAuthority wrote: definitively I would say last 2 scum are between prp/vivax and stutters but thats probably wrong. I forgot about how suspicious stutters is this game Any particular reason? | ||
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By my understanding though, if I got hit the role would be removed. | ||
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Would the vet role be announced if it's removed from a shot? | ||
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On June 13 2013 09:14 VayneAuthority wrote: ##vote:vivax I think I'd rather see sent flip, but I can get behind this for now ##vote: Vivax Gonna do some filter diving, playing two games with multiple people is getting me all sorts of fucked up. | ||
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On June 13 2013 09:47 Vivax wrote: Prplhz + stutters doesn't add up. Even if one of them is scum, they're both super active and that seems kinda unusual, given their lurky metas. What I notice and is a scumtell from stutters is the high peak in activity (and effort) at the beginning that dies off over time. Trying to make up a case on me again? Didn't work in yanmm | ||
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On June 13 2013 10:03 Vivax wrote: Does that mean you cannot mention anything on your own as reason for me being scum? You went from null to faking roles to sheeping votes? No it means I didn't have anything ready because I didn't have any intention of lynching you. However with the guess who I checked and seeing vaynes post I figured some pressure to get you to say it wouldn't hurt. Your attack on me since makes me more comfortable with the vote however. | ||
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That really made me laugh. | ||
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On June 15 2013 02:54 VayneAuthority wrote: If a town does get cop tonight I would highly look into stutters if vivax is town, he brings up valid points Nah | ||
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On June 15 2013 04:07 Vivax wrote: PLEASE, go to stutters' filter, where the posts are located, read what stutters writes since his first post about Rayn, then look at what he's writing about ace, and last, check the timing of his vote. It reeks of scum play, I want to lynch stutters today. ##Unvote ##Vote stutters Please explain why what you're saying makes me scum, with examples and why these wouldn't be things I'd do as town. | ||
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On June 15 2013 00:46 Vivax wrote: At first glance it looks good for stutters cause ace is being inquisitive with him and I see that as unlikely between sbuddies, but what matters more is the answer: That he doesn't deliver town points doesn't really matter, he could also have been lazy and ace was dead anyway. The answer regarding ace's "what if" however is in contrast to an earlier statement: Stutters gave ace leeway cause he said he wouldn't pull that stunt as scum, but afterwards, when ace was doomed, he said he could also see it coming from scum. Going to be a couple posts on this so I can quote everything of relevance to vivax. First is this lovely post. Vivax is painting my stance on the Ace/Oats situation as I was indecisive on it, which simply isn't true. Before we lynched Oats I expressed that Ace was more believable to me but was very clear that if Oats flipped town that Ace had to die. It was a poor play for Ace to sacrifice himself as a strong scum player(from my understanding) to get oats lynched. A super town Marv I could understand making that trade for but not Oats. He is also trying to use my conversation with Ace as a misrepresentation. In the context of the conversation I was saying I would do that as scum to point out how his question to me was a null tell and although town would obviously claim as the cop there, that wasn't a point towards him being town. | ||
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On June 15 2013 02:51 Vivax wrote: Which means that even after I flip town you have an out to still lynch Sentinel, hence your reasoning for lynching me is flimsy since it doesn't solve a damn thing. Instead of doing analysis you prefer to give reasoning that doesn't lead anywhere. You never gave any reasons for voting for me. That no one picks up on that is outrageous. I asked you to deliver any reason at the start of the day and you did nothing. All you are doing is following thread sentiment. I did give a reason for voting you. I liked Vaynes vote since you weren't just saying it so I figured a pressure vote would get you to say it(as I was typing you obviously revealed it, but it wasn't worth removing the vote when there was plenty of time in the day). What made me decide to keep the vote as a serious one was your reaction to my vote and Vaynes analysis. You reacted by pushing me as a suspect on a meta argument when I HAVE NEVER PLAYED SCUM. | ||
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On June 15 2013 07:20 Vivax wrote: Alright, let me understand this. You meant to say that you didn't see ace being scum cause it would have been poor play for him to trade himself for Oats. But once Oats flipped, you said you would have done the same in his position as scum, but also as town with a legit dt check. I still see the same inconsistency I addressed cause you used two different justifications pre- and post-flip. I mean, preflip you argued with the unlikelyhood of ace doing that to lynch oats, post-flip you argued that you'd have done it as scum. You've still missed to point out why you found Rayn scummy but didn't follow up with anything until he was up for lynch. It's more of a fact but if you have thoughts to offer about that time then maybe it'll tell us more about your mindset back then. Aaaand finally you still didn't give reasons for me being scum since you've joined my wagon for no reason at the start of the day. I would have done it as scum. I'm not Ace. I probably could have gotten out of it if it was me in Ace's position because I am not known for making great plays and as such people would probably give me the benefit of the doubt. You're also neglecting how huge of a difference pre-flip and post-flip makes. Pre-flip I'm operating under the assumption that one of them is lying. If you take it from a pure numbers standpoint for scum to win each member must be worth 3 deaths from the start. After Rayn dies d1, each scum has to be worth 4 or offer something else of value to ensure the remaining scum will survive. Best case for Ace was Oats+2, Ace+2 for oats. Ace as an analyst is significantly more valuable if he's town and if he's not he's giving up a kp(incredibly valuable) and still is dead before he's made his value back. Couple that with my relatively high level of respect for his play and it's pretty easy to see why I thought he was truthful over oats, not that he was for sure truthful Now post flip I know oats was telling the truth. This changes things. Odds are significantly against oats being Miller so I'm trying to divine if Ace was lying. He tries to say he's town so of course he did this. But I know now oats was truthful, so I'm trying to figure out if ace is. I figure if I would consider it as scum, Ace might and thus his I'm town so I had to is a null tell. | ||
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I was the medic and attempted to save mkfuba. Unfortunately I was role blocked which means either scum hit the vet or held the hit, which I really doubt. | ||
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Anyway I attempted to medic Fuba for two main reasons. 1) Kita was such an obvious save that I figured scum would avoid him after two night phases ago when it seems Kita was pretty likely to have been hit. 2) so after deciding that I wouldn't save Kita, it came down to layabout, Fuba or WoS by virtue of them being town enough that they aren't going to get lynched but not obvious enough of a save that scum would think it would go through. I based this off of their previous kills. Then I just gut picked Fuba because he's who I would shoot in that position as scum. | ||
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Kita I'll get to your questions once I slow down at work. Little too busy atm for in depth posting. | ||
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And for the record Vayne, I claimed before Fuba. | ||
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You took one post out of context of the entire back and forth I had with Prpl d1 and didn't show any scum motivation except that I'd be getting town cred from him. That would be a really poor play on my end when busing Rayn would have made significantly more sense without putting myself under unnecessary scrutiny when I could easily avoid it. I don't think you're scum because I think Prp is scum and I think Jay is more likely than you, but if Prp somehow flips town and Jay is scum I'll be looking into you pretty heavily | ||
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On June 20 2013 03:31 jaybrundage wrote: I wanna lynch Vayne still. He has done hella scummy things. And given WoS's theory on scum using blue roles it would make sense that he would hold the shot and claim he doc protected someone. I'm actually starting to agree with you. Filter diving him now. The only thing that gives me pause is what happened in I Swear. | ||
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Ok so big post on Vayne: There will be Day 1: He really isn't saying dick, but no surprise there. He's done it both of the other games I've played with him (1 town, 1 scum). Here is where it starts to bug me On June 05 2013 01:29 VayneAuthority wrote: Don't really care for meta, guess you'll just have to find out once the start actually starts rolling On June 05 2013 10:57 VayneAuthority wrote: I am waiting to see more from him but he's definitely on my radar, I am reading the thread just don't have much to contribute right now. These metagames and pointless accusations this early bore me. That's twice in early d1 he says he doesn't care for meta, yet his first real stance is a townread on Rayne for meta where he votes WoS for no reason except that at least it isn't his town read. + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2013 15:10 VayneAuthority wrote: I dont see anything on rayn, he doesn't really have a meta from what I have seen. He plays differently from game to game and his activity is based off the time he actually has not his alignment. Neither of us are good lynches. I am leaning towards mkfuba or WoS not sure yet On June 06 2013 02:40 VayneAuthority wrote: I don't necessarily think WoS is scum as its too early to tell but if that's my only other option besides rayn, so be it. He is one of my only townreads He also defends Ace by saying that if he's town scum will shoot him, so there is no point in lynching him/getting him to contribute. Then he switches to Fuba because he's his "real read." Now that the summary is done, onto why this is scummy: First, I consider Vayne a very cognizant player. It isn't that his reads are amazing or anything as town but he's always thinking ahead. That is part of my concern with him. For the obvious scum motivations he got by d1 with not being a serious suspect at all and avoiding contributing literally anything. Although defending two scum could just be terrible luck, I would not rule out the possibility of scumteam consisting of Ace and Vayne to orchestrate that. He defends both confirmed scum on no reasoning at all. That isn't something that just happens. I'd also like to call attention to + Show Spoiler [this post] + On June 06 2013 11:14 VayneAuthority wrote: I welcome anyone that questions my alignment to cop me then if you can't vig me, so we don't waste a lynch. Vayne is too focused on how night actions affect gameplay to not realize that with the godfather possibility, you can't rely on someone calling themselves for a cop check to be reliable. Overall a pretty scummy d1 but nothing really concrete in it, Gonna abridge the rest to get it out quick. If a scum recieves the miller/GF role, are they informed that they are the GF for that night? | ||
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d2/n2 He calls himself confirmed town via Rayns WIFOM, then says if Ace flips scum we need to reexamine confirmed town because clearly Ace set something up. Purely speculation, but notice that he really doesn't do anything yet again. When he does decide to post reads look at them + Show Spoiler [reads] + On June 09 2013 12:13 VayneAuthority wrote: Also I would check out stutters, something is up there. Something doesn't feel right about him looking through his filter. Look at the progression that brought him to Rayn and how he's been pretty much afk for this 2nd day. On June 09 2013 12:23 VayneAuthority wrote: They didn't necessarily have to bus him hard but they definitely voted somewhere in the middle of the pack im guessing or maybe even early (this is all assuming ace is scum) I would say the ones to me that look the most suspicious are stutters, Vivax, JJD. Leaning towards sentinel being town but really can't tell what he's doing tbh. stutters- Tosses around his vote a bit and is quite active, more than I would like from stutters but maybe he just had time on his hands. The damning part is that he kind of ends up on rayn with no real reason, just pops in the thread late and votes him. Vivax was trying to push a lynch on a weak player(me) which is something we both know scum love to do, and kind of just voted for rayn for no reason at all either. JJD is doing the same thing as last game where he kind of pre-conceives before the flip but I cant get a good read here, null leaning scum I've dropped the mkfuba thing but you thing I should re-examine it? First notice that all four of his reads show little to no scum motivation. There's an irony here that he accuses Vivax of trying to push a lynch on a weak player when that is what he was doing to me (over a weekend I may add when I have made it abundantly clear I'm not as active). His JJD read is easily the worst reason of the 3 (at least voting Rayn without justification can be scummy, but he never explains why it is something that wouldn't happen as a townie). Rinse and repeat that on me throughout the entire game. Also this post is scummy as shit. On June 09 2013 12:25 VayneAuthority wrote: Day 3...well first of all we have to see who dies and what roles people claim. Then we need to carefully consider our lynch, Ace is probably going to die but we don't really need to discuss that unless some one gives an interesting cop report or something. Day 3 should be used to setup for endgame I presume afk a while, driving home. | ||
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I could see Vayne protecting the hit to try and boost his town cred and there is still the possibility of vivax getting role blocked. Looking at the NKs it's pretty obvious Fuba and I can't be scum together since if we were there would have been no reason to sacrifice two NKs to give Fuba minor town cred with his vet absorption when as an alternative we could have easily shot knowing that Fuba was a very unlikely RB compared to me. That doesn't clear me for that night but i know I'm telling the truth about it makes Fuba confirmed town to me because he's responsible for two saves when otherwise this is a potential lylo. Thus the question for me is are vivax/Vayne/both up to something? I think yes and Vayne is the more likely to flip scum. | ||
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##vote: Vivax | ||
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I need to think about this. | ||
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On June 22 2013 04:29 jaybrundage wrote: Ok do you guys think that Vivax was bussed. Or that his scum partner was hard defending him. Good question, I'm honestly not sure at all. I feel like logically a bus is a bad move but if he felt vivax was definitely going to die by tomorrow at the latest it couldn't hurt to try and get town cred. I'm probably not even going yo consider it in my reads. | ||
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If you think I'm lying lynch me first but there is literally no way for a scum me to win by claiming here. | ||
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Anyway afk, vote Jay for victory | ||
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On June 22 2013 14:45 jaybrundage wrote: guys why would i claim role blocker as scum. stutters is just scum cop fake claiming me I would welcome them lynching me. With DIs clarification it is 100% certain you're scum and you can't win if they do me then you. It really doesn't matter. | ||
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On June 22 2013 14:53 jaybrundage wrote: HA nice try scum. Well i think your 100% scum so there So lynch me. The game is solved, I don't care. You have 1kp, if you lynch me and don't get RB again you'll get blocked and lose. If you get RB, you'll still get lynched and lose. Literally the only way you're not scum is if the host fucked up. | ||
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Thanks for hosting DI/Artanis | ||
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