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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 03:25 GMT
#1009
Day 3...well first of all we have to see who dies and what roles people claim. Then we need to carefully consider our lynch, Ace is probably going to die but we don't really need to discuss that unless some one gives an interesting cop report or something.
Day 3 should be used to setup for endgame I presume
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 19:45 GMT
#1055
is that a serious post? I hate having to decide on Dumbtelling
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 23:21 GMT
#1111
dat jarjar kill interesting
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 23:24 GMT
#1113
So all that is in JJD's filter is sentinel stuff so not very useful. Is it WIFOM or is sentinel actually scum? Wish we had a cop check on him
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 23:25 GMT
#1115
and cop claimed so I will now. I was doctor and I was on WaveofShadow. So either Vivax is scum or WaveofShadow is town, or both.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 23:25 GMT
#1116
On June 10 2013 08:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 08:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
dat jarjar kill interesting


That implicates moi does it not? He was pushing my lynch.


Nope's its purely WIFOM. doesn't mean shit
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 10 2013 01:47 GMT
#1125
On June 10 2013 10:42 layabout wrote:
vayne, sent, kita scumteam maybe prplhz


dumb posts like this make me assume town but I don't know if I should. At least he has inno on him. That's about the most unlikely scumteam I can think of. Did you even read any posts after the night post? Why would I potentially save town as scum? Why would sent continually try to get me lynched throughout this entire game? How does kita come into all of this?

Does anyone else see this as a completely asinine post
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 10 2013 02:02 GMT
#1128
On June 10 2013 10:53 layabout wrote:
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On June 10 2013 10:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 10 2013 10:42 layabout wrote:
vayne, sent, kita scumteam maybe prplhz


dumb posts like this make me assume town but I don't know if I should. At least he has inno on him. That's about the most unlikely scumteam I can think of. Did you even read any posts after the night post? Why would I potentially save town as scum? Why would sent continually try to get me lynched throughout this entire game? How does kita come into all of this?

Does anyone else see this as a completely asinine post

don't call me dumb.

don't ask me to explain stuff Mr "he isn't the mafia power role i swear, reasons? shit! errr.... gutread "


haha if you're still on day 1 buddy you might as well find yourself a replacement, completely useless.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 10 2013 03:05 GMT
#1136
On June 10 2013 11:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On June 10 2013 11:26 jaybrundage wrote:
I know we have to keep up discussion. But its so hard when we have one lynch on the board that is pretty much guaranteed to go thru. Would anyone be down for voting to shorten the day. It would help keep discussion up and stop lethargy from hitting our town.

I find that hosts rarely agree to artificially shorten the day; in this scenario I feel even more so that your request would be denied.

Jay there is plenty to talk about just because we already have a lynch target for the day. For instance, I actually forgot to look into the post timings for yesterday's lynch into Oats which I said I was going to do, based on the fact that scum are more likely to be around at the time of lynch to be able to react to shenanigans/claims/what have you.
People who posted directly after the lynch (within 1 hour):
prplhz, mkfuba, Sentinel, kita, layabout, vayne.

Prplhz Sentinel and mkfuba posted directly within 15 min of the lynch, though prplhz was around a little bit before as well.
Of these I would like to direct attention to mkfuba.
His post directly previous to the flip:
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On June 08 2013 06:33 mkfuba07 wrote:
@Vivax:
One problem I have with the reasoning in a) is that I don't feel like any scum is ever all too afraid of bussing oats right from the start. He's a hard read D1, and is also (I feel) oftentimes an unlikely lynch D1 because of that very fact. I'd have to take a closer look at how sent was pushing oats, but if it's just "his case on ace is ridic" then it's nothing that I'm sure most of the people here weren't thinking before sent said it himself. Because of this, I don't think scum oats excludes scum sent.

As glad as I am that there's a lot of discussion going on (I have excuses for not participating up to this point, but I'll leave them out unless someone really wants to hear them), I don't see myself voting for someone other than ace or oats today. The likelihood of these two players being town and getting the exact roles that would put us in this situation given their previous interaction is negligible, imo. Therefore, at least one of them is scum. Oats seems most likely to me, given that it would be silly for ace to fakeclaim and expect "guess he was miller" to get him off the hook. I agree that if ace did fakeclaim, it's more significant than a 1-for-1 trade, but it's still a pretty big swap.

##Vote: Oatsmaster

I've been asleep for a pretty long while, and I'm gonna go get food now. I also might have plans in a few hours, so I'll disappear again for a bit. Please tell me if there's anything in particular you want me to think about/look at/consider, since my time will be mostly focusing on oats/ace. In addition to being the most likely place to find scum, I feel that will give us the most to go off of going into D3.

Not the timestamp. This is a full day before the flip.
Now look at this.

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On June 09 2013 08:05 mkfuba07 wrote:
Well... that was quite possibly my least expected flip ever...

5 MINUTES after the flip.

This does not seem entirely coincidental to me as scum are often extremely active directly around the time of a flip. It would be one thing if he had post on and off throughout the day as some of the others who posted directly after did but mkfuba contributed ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for an entire day and very little before that point; he is simply coasting on his 'confirmed town' status given to him by?

None other than Ace.

Kita I am aware there is a deal of merit considering he would have been the first to push Rayn somewhat on the first day and you gave him a recent townread yourself, but what do you think of this? A possible scenario I envision (and not entirely unlikely if Ace flips red) is that the decision to bus Rayn happened earlier on to give a lot of people towncred, especially considering Rayn may have informed his team that he would be inactive and therefore likely to die. This idea hinges a little more on the idea that Ace is scum however, since it would require massive lategame gambling and the sacrifice of scum's arguably strongest role. If Ace is scum this appears to be more likely since there must be serious planning going on for Ace to sacrifice himself alone.

In any case if the scenario I pointed out appears unlikely then by all means ignore it for now; I'd like to hear what people think of mkfuba atm.


well he was my first scumread but dropped it since he started the bandwagon on their leader so I don't think its likely that he's scum but it is possible of course.

Would be nice if he was scum to continue my "first read = scum" on this site hu3hu3
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 10 2013 17:43 GMT
#1152
##vote:ace

busy right now but willadd thoughts later
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 11 2013 00:54 GMT
#1181
it wasnt really follow the cop oats was a fairly good lynch, he's impossible to read anyway so 1 less headache to deal with
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 11 2013 00:54 GMT
#1182
now if only scum would kill me
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 11 2013 18:42 GMT
#1196
On June 12 2013 03:37 kitaman27 wrote:
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On June 12 2013 03:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On June 11 2013 11:35 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 11 2013 11:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I died in smurf mini, the amount of effort I dedicate to this game is now 33%, up from 25%.


Scum team? Do you still have a mafia read on Vayne?


Ace Vayne ____ don't know my third pick yet


prpl claims roleblock on Vivax.
Vayne claims medic on Wave.

Are you saying that mafia shot into the player they were protecting or that they double stacked last night? How wouldn't Vivax be scum if you have a mafia read on Vayne?


that's my conundrum with this sentinel. he either doesnt give a shit about this game or is scum. we desperately need a cop check on him.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 11 2013 18:43 GMT
#1197
also prp can be scum faking rb so doesnt have to be vivax
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 11 2013 19:10 GMT
#1203
On June 12 2013 03:47 Vivax wrote:
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On June 12 2013 03:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
also prp can be scum faking rb so doesnt have to be vivax


I have been roleblocked though.
I find it too hard to imagine that scum doublestacked JJD.

Kita mentioned that he would not have written a case against ace knowing he was going to fakeclaim cop cause he'd have sided with him.

Well he still did side with him after writing his case, so that argument doesn't even make sense, but now he looks like he was pressuring ace while lynching Oats.


yea that post made zero sense i remember your rb claim. Does anyone have a history with sentinel that can explain if he dumbtells as scum?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 11 2013 22:19 GMT
#1214
The only way your both of us scum theory has credibility is if ace flips town. Ace wouldn't do that a risky move if the last 2 scum left were me and sent ROFL.

Think you are getting a little ahead of yourself
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 11 2013 23:04 GMT
#1218
As stated a long time ago, time to look at people that are in good standing with the town. No way Ace pulls off that stunt without being very sure of his partners.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 11 2013 23:08 GMT
#1220
On June 12 2013 07:59 jaybrundage wrote:
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On June 12 2013 07:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
The only way your both of us scum theory has credibility is if ace flips town. Ace wouldn't do that a risky move if the last 2 scum left were me and sent ROFL.

Think you are getting a little ahead of yourself

Ace could of claimed to protect Sent which has been noted. But he didnt do a good enough drawing attention away from him.

So then what is your scum reads given what you have said?


I would say to look into vivax/prphlz/mkfuba/kita/possibly even WoS with scrutiny. Don't have any specifics yet. I am a bit wary of how fast prphlz claimed his roleblock on vivax so I wouldn't be surprised if they planned something sneaky. If town gets cop i'd say look between prp/vivax for lynch tomorrow

Some very townie people are scum, you're barking up the wrong tree with me/sent and its because of what they have led you to believe. This is why they are killing off random players and leaving up me and sentinel, so that we are mislynched. It allows the last 2 scum to hide within the vets somewhere.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 11 2013 23:08 GMT
#1221
On June 12 2013 08:05 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm thinking its the other way around. He pulls that stunt BECAUSE his partners are in trouble.


That would make literally zero sense, He was under no pressure as he stated so why would he get himself lynched then town goes right back to killing the bad players?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 11 2013 23:11 GMT
#1222
definitively I would say last 2 scum are between prp/vivax and stutters but thats probably wrong. I forgot about how suspicious stutters is this game
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