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On June 14 2013 19:54 Hurndall3 wrote: honestly i just haven't had time to play this game properly. I hope to make a case against pt in the next days so please consider that with an open mind.
I don't care about a case against PT. Hang on I'll go link what I expect of you, if you're somehow a townie under pressure.
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actually fuck it, I'm not gonna link.
But seriously, there should be pages upon pages explaining all your actions in the thread now, instead we have nothing.
@PT you need to get posting.
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(reason I'm not linking is that it might give too much away about my identity)
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why dont you care about my case against pt? also what actions should I explain? A lot of them probably don't have good explanations.
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On June 14 2013 19:54 Hurndall3 wrote: honestly i just haven't had time to play this game properly. I hope to make a case against pt in the next days so please consider that with an open mind.
In addition you have 9 pages of filter, maybe you should cut the crap-posting and actually play the game.
God I hope you're scum
##Vote Hurndall3
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read my brief stint of tryhard preceding the HW lynch. Yes I was totally wrong about everything, but I would not tryhard like that as scum.
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On June 14 2013 20:24 Hurndall3 wrote: read my brief stint of tryhard preceding the HW lynch. Yes I was totally wrong about everything, but I would not tryhard like that as scum.
You see, that's not tryharding, it's good for YOU based on this one game, but it's still far less substance than almost everyone else in this game.
An unexpected wrinkle to this no identity thing is that not only does it remove the louder voice some of the veteran and more respected players have, but it also means terrible townies are even worse than they normally are, because normally at least you know to expect nothing from someone like you, but in this game you might be the best townplayer on TL Mafia giving me absolutely nothing because you don't need to.
So, while you say "I would not tryhard like that as scum" all I see is the laziest asshole in the game. PT has far more impressive posting history than you. Would he tryhard as scum?
In fact, of the three players remaining, you've tried the least hard, so that means we lynch you, right?
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A good start would be to provide reasons for the questions I asked you last night, which you decided just to ignore because playing the game is too hard.
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And it's not like it's new that you're playing like a dick:
On May 31 2013 21:54 Baker1986 wrote:You do realize you're awful at the "I'm a dick and I post oneliners" attitude?
On May 31 2013 22:01 Baker1986 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 21:57 Hurndall3 wrote: i was answering smccs question is all dont get mad at me I'm just pointing it out. The entire point of playing like you're playing is to antagonize someone to make him mad until he just snaps and does something stupid, revealing his alignment. You're just being useless. also, fuck Flood Control.
I pointed out your attitude on day one. It's annoying. If it wasn't for my burning desire to win games at all costs I'd just say fuck it and lynch you for being an asshole. If you're town I win, if you're scum I'm taking note never to play in a game with you again.
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respost your dumb questions I will try to answer. And me vs pt... lol. my try hard was WAY different. I was actually trying to figure this game out. PT just posts these cases because people like you will read them and think he's town. He doesn't try to push for the cases. I pushed the FUCK out of mine.
Even though I dont have a lot of time I am in the thread a lot talking with you. I am not afraid to talk and PT is.
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baker you have to realize that the outcome of this game rests on your shoulders. So don't be lazy. Maybe I'm an asshole for playing this way, but this is just how I play a LOT of the time. Don't vote for me just because you are pissed at me.
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On June 14 2013 21:12 Hurndall3 wrote: but this is just how I play a LOT of the time.
Irrelevant, I'm comparing you to the standards of good players, I don't care whether or not you're a good player.
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why are you doing that?? you really want to bet this game on the fact that I am NOT a lazy player
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On June 14 2013 21:17 Hurndall3 wrote: why are you doing that?? you really want to bet this game on the fact that I am NOT a lazy player
I just might, why would lazy players play mafia anyway? I get being away, hell I was away for most of the Tom lynch myself, this game has been going for 45-ish days or something.
What I don't get is how someone can sign up for mafia and have almost no time to contribute for a month and a half, yet is always there to throw ill-thought-out shit in the thread when needed.
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wow I'm an idiot, it's been going out for half a month, not one and half month. Still the point stands. 15+ days.
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i know it pisses you off but it happens. you have seen it happen countless times in non smurf games I am sure.
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also i got hella demoralized because I was wrong about everything when i tryharded.
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Initial suspicion:
On June 03 2013 16:45 PTroughton2 wrote: McCoy has been town cheiftan so far and Baker seems to be hinting he's rather comfortable with sheeping McCoy. Looking into Baker as well, not sure how comfortable I am with him being a sheep but at least it's McCoy who is the shepherd. .
Here he explains his suspicion with actual reasons, although we now know those were incorrect:
On June 04 2013 04:49 PTroughton2 wrote: 2) The reason for bringing this up is that presumably McCoy has at least a null or perhaps town-leaning read on Baker at this point. The overt willingness from Baker to sheep McCoy is suspicious to me because he's enabled to sheep McCoy BECAUSE of McCoy's town read on him. If Baker is playing a magnificent early scum game in which he's in the town leadership's good graces, he can a) let his activity drop off as someone in the thread is speaking for him and b) absolve himself of blame for any mislynches. I wrote that post tired after a quick read-through, but that idea developed in my mind as I was catching up for the first time and I wanted to make a note of it so you knew where I was headed. Need to see how Baker has been participating in the mean time. Granted, if I recall correctly he said this very recently, perhaps during the night? I'll have a better-informed read of Baker when I'm finished re-reading.
On June 04 2013 06:09 PTroughton2 wrote:P4 of the thread, found the original willingness to sheep McCoy (I think it's repeated later in the game as well) Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 23:44 Baker1986 wrote: Also McCoy confirmed for smartest guy in thread, I'll sheep him. At this stage of the game, it makes little sense to say that you are willing to sheep McCoy. McCoy could have been wrong (thought I doubt it since I share both a town read on him and his suspicions of Eccleston by this point of the game) and giving him another vote by proxy isn't quite scummy but it is... suspect. McCoy is at that point focusing in on Eccleston, and Baker is in a mild manner in the thread where he starts with a not-certain town read on McCoy to McCoy is the smartest dude in the thread. This is all centered around the events of discussing Eccleston, particularly this post occurs that gives Baker a 100% town read on McCoy: Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 23:30 SMcCoy wrote:On May 29 2013 22:56 JPertwee wrote:Pertwee, J, reporting for duty. On May 29 2013 22:17 DrTennant wrote:On May 29 2013 18:40 SMcCoy wrote: Hello.
I took note of Eccleston's aggressive entrance.
His latest post suggests that he doesn't know what to make of MSmith.
I have bad vibes about him. My first guess would have been to assume that scum did not post yet, they have no interest in driving discussion at early stages. That is what I assume. Eccleston's strange paranoid behavior with subtle criticism suggests that he has differing methods of finding scum or that he is trying to look like he's scumhunting by voicing quick, exaggerated suspicions with not much reasoning behind them. At first criticizing very early posts and then proceeding to call someone's actions ambiguous without specifying why.
We might just differ in our methods but I will be observing this subject during our stay and beg him to keep posts as informative and objective as possible. This is actually the scummiest post in thread in my opinion super ambiguous and actually says nothing. Says he took note of whatever that means offers some reasion why eccleston's posts might be interpreted as scummy then leaves justification for why it might not be. Why so wishy washy? You scum? Dr. Tennant, I'm inclined to agree with you. I don't see a reason for saying what he did, he just gave us a big bowl of word soup. He's assuming the aliens aren't going to be one of the first people to speak up, but then is going to take the time to give a little speech about how Smith could be or could not be an alien. McCoy, you state that Smith may just have differing methods to look for the alien, what are you suggesting they differ from? Is there anything in particular in Smith's posts that suggest an alien thought process to you? [PT2000 note: (Smith in the above sentence was EBWOP'd to Ecclestone)] Yes. He started by criticizing others for bringing up a topic he deemed unworthy of discussion, when he could have created one himself. On May 29 2013 18:06 Eccleston wrote: From what I could see the setup is normal except for the KP delay function. It will not affect lynching until end game though, so I guess it doesn't.
Mr. McGann seems friendly enough. As for you, I don't know... Are you an angry villager or a murderous italian? Your reactions look valid from both perspectives. Then he proceeded to ask a rather useless question, showing something which is definitely ambiguous, but without showing his thought process. This brings me back to my current attackers. I find it hard to believe that they would truly believe my post was ambiguous, while skipping on this post by Ecclestone. We both express two possible options for the people we speak of, but while I lay out my reasoning, Ecclestone doesn't. This looks suspicious and might imply that these subjects are linked to each other for their selectivity, speaking of DrTennant here who brought the so called wishy-washy up first. It seems that Baker comes to the conclusion that the chainsaw defense of Ecc by DrT means both of them are probably scum. If Ecc flips mafia, there's no way in hell Baker is mafia. No way. He's willing to hand off his vote to his strongest town read and calls out a rather obvious scum pair in the thread and if he's right, that's just too gutsy for hours into day one. Baker is town, or he's got brass ones. I take back my suspicions. Or do you disagree that this would make him town? Just too far out for him to be potentially bussing his entire team when he presumably has the ability and time to steer things away so early in the game. The counter point to that is that Baker WANTS the two to be linked together, since DrT is well on his way to a lynch and not doing much good for himself trying to change that. Therefore by linking up with McCoy he's not at the forefront of a push that will lynch his entire team but potentially at least trading one clearly scummy teammate for a very lynchable theoretical-town-Ecc.
but in the end he actually reads the thread and delivers a conclusion, even with a caveat that looks pretty townie (he seems to account for both the possibility of a town ecc and scum ecc.
Meanwhile you did the same circle with me. Here's your reasons for comparison.
here's your first suspicion on me:
On June 10 2013 11:10 Hurndall3 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 10:45 Baker1986 wrote: This doesn't quite feel right, but honestly whatever. There's a bunch of people in this game I can't read at all. so yeah... well my first thought is baker looks bad for this
Notice that there is no explanation for WHY it makes me look bad, it just does.
On June 11 2013 19:43 Hurndall3 wrote: but yeah right now i think it's a pt baker scumteam if i had to pick
Again, no reason, just scum.
On June 14 2013 01:23 Hurndall3 wrote: because you didn't want to lynch me instead of ecc
And here's your turnaround.
Now, read both cases and explain to me why I should come to the conclusion yours is motivated by town intentions, and his by scum.
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