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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
May 31 2013 00:01 GMT
#176
/in
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
May 31 2013 00:03 GMT
#177
okay, this might look super suspicious because i made this account like a few months ago planning to participate in FPL then realized that i only knew like a handful of the people who came over from SC:BW. this is actually my only account on this website.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 01 2013 04:58 GMT
#184
Alright so i just went threw and read newbie mini mafia XXXV and now i feel alot better and actually understand how this game can work in a text based system. also Vegi-Tale theme is far more kickass than vampire. (although i do approve of vampire theme)
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 01 2013 20:13 GMT
#195
On June 01 2013 14:47 mkfuba07 wrote:
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On June 01 2013 13:58 Xzavier wrote:
Alright so i just went threw and read newbie mini mafia XXXV and now i feel alot better and actually understand how this game can work in a text based system. also Vegi-Tale theme is far more kickass than vampire. (although i do approve of vampire theme)

What are your thoughts on True Blood vs Vampire Diaries?


Don't believe I've watched either, but the commercials for vampire diaries are far worse than the commercials of True Blood. lol
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 02 2013 03:02 GMT
#202
and then the other girls get jealous, we all know how this works.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 02 2013 19:09 GMT
#210
On June 03 2013 02:30 Umasi wrote:
School just finished, so I'll /in.
First game woooooooo


Im not alone! WHOOOO! :D
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 03 2013 20:28 GMT
#233
can anybody here help me out with this. i know it doesn't apply to this game, but I'm super confused about the Ninja's. like even after using google and looking threw a lot of the guides I'm confused as to what their role does and how they win.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 21:06:51
June 03 2013 21:06 GMT
#238
how do they win?

nevermind, i missed a post xD lol. i get it now. ty all
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 04 2013 00:43 GMT
#248
micro mafia going on in the pregame?? that would get confusing once the real game of mafia started O.o
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 05 2013 02:57 GMT
#257
oh we do, and make little newbz, but some things are simply not meant to be
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 05 2013 06:33 GMT
#259
Actual useful question. anybody know of a way to get a notification on your phone for when somebody replies to this thread? it could make life more convienient (spelling op/takes too much effort to google)
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 05 2013 15:01 GMT
#268
Sonofabitch. im in class for the next 3 hours. better not start till im out
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 05 2013 15:15 GMT
#271
Gl gg have fun. keep calm and survive the night.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 01:49 GMT
#287
Okay, i just want to say, that this is fucking awesome.

Now, to get the ball rolling. Im going to ask what your preferred lynch order would be (if nobody has any strong reads)
mine is active scum>lurking scum>lurker.

The reason for this is obvious: active scum will try to throw us all off.
Lurking scum are bitches, just kill us and dont say sorry.
Lurking townies hurt us just as bad (by giving lurking scum people to lurk with)

If we all do our best to make meaningful posts every few hours, we will be golden and the mafia will be fucked. We simply just need to force them to post more (and thus give away more information)

I dont think a random finger pointing helps start games, literally his entire defence could be the game started five minutes ago.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 01:58 GMT
#296
Nobody is a lurker until 20 hours have passed IMO, cause they could be sleeping right now then going to work. But after that the people who have only posted the bare minimum or a few pointless arguments/facts are probably lurking scum. People who apologize a lot are probably scum. People who are super afraid of everybody are probably Mafia (or blue roles)

PEOPLE WHO REHASH THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAID or provide little to no new information are probably scum

Its all on the town to be as productive as they can, then its simply lynch the unproductive people (who if all the town are playing it right, this either forces the mafia to help us kill them, or singles them out and we lynch them)
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 02:05 GMT
#301
On June 06 2013 10:59 Umasi wrote:
Alright, so at this point, realistically, what can we do aside from sit and wait?


Right now from what iv seen/heard. What we can do is discuss plans for catching the mafia, Then you support/refute other peoples plans or try to improve them. Its a great way to get people into interacting with each other.

That being said, once we agree on a plan. Iv heard (mostly from a podcast i listened to <3 blazinghand) that some teams have lost because they stuck to a plan until the very end of the game. What it does is give us a starting topic of discussion, we should never ignore our instinct or gut reads (like investigate, that shit: do it)

How people interact with the creation of said plans and argue them can give us a beginning source of information to analyze


No i haven't played anywhere else, iv played IRL a little bit, but mostly its from spending over the last 3 days like 4 hours reading all the guides on TL and listening to one of the podcasts, all of it was super intriguing and useful. but this is my first game of forum mafia.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 02:34 GMT
#308
On June 06 2013 11:18 fferyllt wrote:
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On June 06 2013 11:05 Xzavier wrote:
No i haven't played anywhere else, iv played IRL a little bit, but mostly its from spending over the last 3 days like 4 hours reading all the guides on TL and listening to one of the podcasts, all of it was super intriguing and useful. but this is my first game of forum mafia.


ah, ok. good to know.

I don't usually make plans to find scum. I'm more about reads (weighing up posts and determining whether they seem to come from a town win condition) than about strategy. I read the game posts and something eventually strikes me as scummy, and off I go.

Speaking of off I go, I'm about to hit the freeway. Will check back in when I'm home and settled.



Well, your making plans with intent to find mafia serves a double-purpose. It isn't just to have a course of action, you have substance to analyze until the shit-flinging finger-pointing starts. It lets you find the motives behind each post, lets you ask "how would this post benefit the town"

It also well, gives you a plan of action of what to do at the end of the day if there are no scum reads. like lynching the most scummy appearing lurker. (which is the best idea i can think up of so far, if you have better/different/reason why this is a bad idea, please tell)


Also i spent forever figuring out what to do at the very start of the game, because that was my question as well: what the fuck do you have to analyze at the start of the game/how do you start them. What i have posted so far have been the effective answers i have found. (it took me about an hour to start finding them)

The way i didnt want this game to start was a questionare like:
1. Are you against or for policy lynches?
2. Would you lynch a lurker at the end of day1?
3. Are you mafia?


The reason is you can answer them like:

1.Yes
2. No
3. No

and then you have nothing to analyze, if you attach "Why" to the end of the questions its slightly better, but it still doesnt make them come up with anything new.

By the way, even if your plan is god awful, it lets us see if its town-motivated or bullshit-motivated.




Also the reason im for lynching a lurker night one is even if it is a noobie who realized they didnt have the time for it, then they arnt ever gonna be useful for us in this game, so it still would be more productive than a No-lynch.

(god i wish i knew how to multi-quote on this forum)
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 02:59 GMT
#314
On June 06 2013 11:45 iVLosK! wrote:
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On June 06 2013 11:44 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On June 06 2013 11:34 Xzavier wrote:

Also the reason im for lynching a lurker night one is even if it is a noobie who realized they didnt have the time for it, then they arnt ever gonna be useful for us in this game, so it still would be more productive than a No-lynch.


I disagree with this. I would rather have a no lynch than to lynch someone i think is a lurking town. We should only be lynching scum, not bad town. I don't see how lynching a townie lurker is more productive. If you think vote for someone because you think he's a lurking scum... fine, but a lurking town vote doesn't help

I agree with this.


The least productive thing is doing nothing. It contributes nothing to the town cause.

The more people you leave in the game, the less likely you are to lynch a mafia.
The longer you let them kill people.
The ONLY day you can even consider a no-lynch is day1.
And I'm opposed to it because the fewer lurkers in the game, the better it is for town. That's a fact. The more you make people post, the more information/reads you can get on them. If people aren't posting then mafia has no reason to. They can sit back and kill us 1 at a time.

Thats my reasoning behind lynching a lurker.

obviously this isnt random lurker with least number of posts gets lynched. and of course they have every chance to defend themselves. and if they defend themself/start contributing, we move suspicion elsewhere. And no shit you try to kill the scummiest one.

This much make sense?
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 03:04 GMT
#316
A townie is still a townie and still counts towards the town count, regardless of how invested they are in the game.


Okay, i should refresh the page before i post.

Vloski thats the most suspicious thing iv seen so far.

There are atleast 3 types of townies:

Useful ones who create content
Inactive ones who do nothing to help prevent impending doom
Counterproductive ones who spam the thread then bandwagon votes

Useful ones win the game, inactive ones dont. Their is a difference between townies.

However you dont need to post all the time or even often, Quality over Quantity, but if your posting little and their is no new information to gain from it, that is pretty scummy.

If your posting little and when you do post its with an ironclad case (which was the other way of playing this game that i was considering) Is also acceptable, as this doesnt make you a high profile target for the mafia, and benefits the town.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 03:28 GMT
#318
its fine.

I believe i think i said somewhere that im against lynching all lurkers?

i said if we have no read, if their is no other option. That im for lynching a Lurker above a no-lynch. That just makes sense to me.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 03:51 GMT
#325
What i dont get is what motive there is to defend lurking?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 03:52 GMT
#327
EBWOP: Lurkers*
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 03:56 GMT
#329
##vote:iVlosk!
Ill take this vote back when you defend yourself with logic over brofists
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 04:09 GMT
#339
You still havnt given a pro-town motivation for defending lurkers. and imo there isnt one. lurking hurts the town. says so in every guide iv read.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 04:12 GMT
#344
I was at first to. but the more he posts the less pro-town he gets. he could b the fucking SK for all i know.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 04:14 GMT
#345
Nononono. you always look for scum. if nobody is finding any you lynch a lurker. thats what iv been trying to say. lynching scum es priority one
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 04:33 GMT
#362
Why wouldnt you want the town to trust you?? Or figure you out. only blue roles & mafia have something to hide?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 04:38 GMT
#368
Then your saying you dont care if we waste precious votes that could b used to lynch scum. this makes no sense. thats the scummiest thing iv seen again. your gonna get lynched if you keep this up.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 04:41 GMT
#374
On June 06 2013 13:36 fferyllt wrote:
You know who wants town to trust them? Scum, that's who.

Everybody wants trust. thats how you win. Read the flipside of that sentance: who DOESNT want town to trust them? Nobody.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 04:43 GMT
#375
On June 06 2013 13:40 iVLosK! wrote:
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On June 06 2013 13:38 Xzavier wrote:
Then your saying you dont care if we waste precious votes that could b used to lynch scum. this makes no sense. thats the scummiest thing iv seen again. your gonna get lynched if you keep this up.

Damn, twice in one night? I'm on a roll.


That or you're easily impressed. But I'd prefer to believe the former.

Or its my first game of forum mafia?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 04:49 GMT
#381
On June 06 2013 13:43 fferyllt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 13:38 Umasi wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:37 fferyllt wrote:
All this earnestness is very touching. I'm firming up some more reads, I think.

Tell us what you think so far, I will start writing my list.

Most of what I'm seeing so far looks town-on-town.

And I see trepidation about how serious early votes are, which looks pretty newb to me. Everybody in the game could vote the same player in this next hour and it might not mean a thing in terms of who eventually gets lynched.

iVLosK! is provoking lots of reactions and that is good. It gives other players stuff to think about and analyze about every player involved, not just iVLosK!.

This actually makes sense. if i think about it like that then its a pro-town and pro-mafia motive. more likely pro-town cuz mafia would be scared shitless. this convinced me. You sir, are town and a buddie. ( why would mafia want to stop this banter)
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 04:50 GMT
#383
##unvote iVosk!
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 04:56 GMT
#388
On June 06 2013 13:53 iVLosK! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 13:50 Umasi wrote:
iV, you DO care if people trust you.
THAT IS HOW YOU WIN THE GAME
You can't be correct on every read and win without convincing everyone else to go along with your read.

Wait for it...





Wait for it...

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On June 06 2013 13:50 Xzavier wrote:
##unvote iVosk!

Huh, I guess he trusts me. And I did it all without making some shitty "plan" that I'm not going to follow anyway. Go figure.

The plan talk was just something to get to shitflinging. We got there. im curious as to what else should be done.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 05:00 GMT
#391
On June 06 2013 13:51 iVLosK! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 13:49 Xzavier wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:43 fferyllt wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:38 Umasi wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:37 fferyllt wrote:
All this earnestness is very touching. I'm firming up some more reads, I think.

Tell us what you think so far, I will start writing my list.

Most of what I'm seeing so far looks town-on-town.

And I see trepidation about how serious early votes are, which looks pretty newb to me. Everybody in the game could vote the same player in this next hour and it might not mean a thing in terms of who eventually gets lynched.

iVLosK! is provoking lots of reactions and that is good. It gives other players stuff to think about and analyze about every player involved, not just iVLosK!.

This actually makes sense. if i think about it like that then its a pro-town and pro-mafia motive. more likely pro-town cuz mafia would be scared shitless. this convinced me. You sir, are town and a buddie. ( why would mafia want to stop this banter)

Scared shitless? I have no fear, regardless of alignment. I fart in the face of death.

Scared shitlesd to Post that much early and draw THAT much attention.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 05:05 GMT
#395
On June 06 2013 14:03 iVLosK! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 13:59 fferyllt wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:53 Umasi wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:43 fferyllt wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:38 Umasi wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:37 fferyllt wrote:
All this earnestness is very touching. I'm firming up some more reads, I think.

Tell us what you think so far, I will start writing my list.

Most of what I'm seeing so far looks town-on-town.

And I see trepidation about how serious early votes are, which looks pretty newb to me. Everybody in the game could vote the same player in this next hour and it might not mean a thing in terms of who eventually gets lynched.

iVLosK! is provoking lots of reactions and that is good. It gives other players stuff to think about and analyze about every player involved, not just iVLosK!.

I agree that iV provoking votes is good, I disagree that it's town on town, assuming iV is included in the town.
it's giving us stuff to think about, but is it the correct stuff to think about? It wouldn't have taken much to settle the at the beginning minor accusation. If he did diffuse it, town could be doing OTHER productive things.
I wish he'd diffused it, I really do. I think everyone else getting involved in the discussion around iV is town except for iV, who hasn't actually given me a fucking reason to think he's town.

If he'd diffused it, then I probably wouldn't have any town reads in my hip pocket right now. And I'd be suspicious as fuck of him for trying to smooth things over.

This guy gets a fucking gold star. Keeping up with me (almost) every step of the way.

Probably every. you just dont want to admit it. and i just learned alot lol. like doing shit for reaction is acceptable.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 05:15 GMT
#399
Alright. ill probably move to reading a book for a few hours and refreshing every chapter. Night.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 05:22 GMT
#401
Ill re-read in the morning. but that might be because he agreed with my claims. but it is a bit weird
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 05:58 GMT
#409
The reason he started shitflinging was so people could start forming reads on everybody. In town vs town arguements you can form reads based on how people react to them.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 06:20 GMT
#420
I have to agree with lonemeow, everything he has done has been done with the intent to start fingerpointing.bad attitude gets you modkilled, not lynched. (meaning serious racism jackass-i-tree ect.)
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 06:29 GMT
#426
I didnt even realize he was attacking you for that. his play is contradictory. like most of his arguement is your a jackass yet before the genderless being enlightened me there was real reasons to fling shit. i feel like yes he is sticking to his guns. but hes on a sinking ship. also dont use ur bad as an excuse. were all bad. some worse than others.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 06:35 GMT
#429
I almost failed to stifle laughter there. I think he is town because what he did moved the town in a foward direction? does that help?
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 07:07 GMT
#437
On June 06 2013 15:43 Yavanna wrote:
Xzav, you seem to have your shit together. Probably my strongest town read atm and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna sheep the shit out of you in the future.

Now that I've ruffled your feathers, maybe you'll help me out a bit. Just so I know we are on the same page, you think iV is town now? I would concur with that analysis. Is it too early to ask for your opinion on anyone else who's posted so far? Humor me, I'm bored as shit and looking for some good convo.

Umasi is over reacting or unnaturally emotional. but at the momet i want to hear from more. the enlightening genderless being is probably town as well. being he stopped the arguement and explained iV's actions for us. thats about all i know. and i just read a fuckton of guides.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 07:09 GMT
#439
He might just be sensitive town lol.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 07:13 GMT
#442
On June 06 2013 16:07 Yavanna wrote:
Ok, well town's opinion aside, go with your gut here. Besides his overall abrasive attitude and the fact that he basically poked you with a stick, what is it that gives you a scum vibe from him? I feel like if he were scum he wouldn't be so in your face with it. I could be terribly wrong though.
this is correct logic. a mafia would not want to push foward discussion. sry. responding on this phone is hard
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 07:22 GMT
#446
Real life mafia taught me that. your arguement or case is hopeless if you dont have a silly amount of self confidence. even if your wrong. be confident knowing you thought you were right.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 07:26 GMT
#452
Umasi. dont get personally attatched to a game thats point is to decieve other people. realize his words are not worth being disrought over. my phone needs spellcheck.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 07:29 GMT
#453
You all write a novel in the time it takes me to make a post on this :-\
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 07:35 GMT
#457
On June 06 2013 16:24 Umasi wrote:
Also, does anyone have any suggestions on how to proceed from this point?
Because I have no friggen clue, given a lot of people still haven't posted, and I want to see them post
and I don't want to talk myself in circles here with the remaining people who HAVE posted, since I don't think a case could be made for any of them

I would go back and do some serious analysis while giving non-americands a chance to read this
you wont get anything ironclad yet. but it will help you focus on more than iV. also dont forge coaches. there totally cool. well im off for the night. phhones pretty dead so :/
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 16:44 GMT
#485
On June 06 2013 23:24 fferyllt wrote:
I'm going to go against the current here and say that Yavanna worries me a bit because she's being awfully nice when going for clarification. The self-deprecation that comes with her questions to players. Stuff like

"Make believe I have a mental handicap because I don't really see how Umasi's behavior was anti-town."

Or this to xZAv

"Now that I've ruffled your feathers"

what ruffled feathers? Yavanna you agreed with xZav in that post.

And yet with assurances that you'll be plenty abrasive when the time comes.

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On June 06 2013 16:23 Yavanna wrote:
Shit I'm sorry...? Should I put on my bitch face? I mean there's like 3 people talking here. When someone comes into the thread that I should jump on I will, but I haven't seen anything to make me do so yet. I'm really not so nice all the time but those of you who I'm conversing with are townie as fuck imo. Should I pull an iV and attack you just for shits?


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On June 06 2013 16:30 Yavanna wrote:
Ermahgerd...I can feel the Vlosk coming!! RAAAAGGGGEEE!!

No but in all seriousness, I just don't see the point in being an asshole unless its warranted. When I think someone is doing something scummy I'll jump all over their ass and not feel bad about it in the least.


I'm not seeing any sign of this iron fist in the velvet glove. Yavanna is working for minor clarifications from her town reads, mostly, which isn't such a great place to put a lot of effort.

i believe that she meant she didnt want to flatter me overly too much lol. thats the way i read it atleast. but yeah, this might be because she is new, but she does seem overly apologetic and it is suspicious when somebody says i dunno who im gonna vote for, so im going to sheep you, this early on. I mean id be okay with her saying she was going to sheep me if she had absolutely no reads, but this is almost giving her an excuse not to try and make reads/find mafia. kinda like saying here, you do the work. and then ofc not having her name attached to it anywhere.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 21:48 GMT
#534
On June 07 2013 06:30 Gotard wrote:
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On June 07 2013 05:40 Gotard wrote:
If i had to vote now i would lynch you or Xzavier but a the same time it's way too risky to kill the most active (potential) allies.


This sentence makes no sense, Everybody in the thread believes im town, and the only scummy thing you have is my "following" Umasi in an argument against iV which i posted before i even saw him post lol. There was like a 1-2 min delay between his post and mine, i didn't know his existed at the time i created mine.

Right now this is sending major fucking warning signals. Im town, everybody here has a town read on me town, you hint to wanting to lynch me yet without a case its obvious nobody else was going to vote for me?

The premise of being forced to vote right now isnt on you, and yes this generated discussion. I dont know why you would vote me over a lurker who hasnt posted yet if you HAD to vote no, considering that if we are taking what we have seen so far and judging them off it. why you would vote a pro-town over a lurker who hasnt posted yet. or just Umasi who is looking suspicious right now.

This makes no sense. And I'm seriously questioning your motive for listing my name there.

Sounds like a mafia pipe-dream this post does.

On June 07 2013 06:38 Skanjab1s wrote:
You're backtracking now,
You said that if you had to vote you would lynch Umasi or Xzav, so obviously he was in the top2 of your "who-I-want-dead" list. Which doesn't make sense since you implied that you had a town read on him previously.

Furthermore, you can't even say what you find scummy about him, besides for a connection-theory which also doesn't indicate much since neither of their alignments are known (to town, at least).


good to see this stuck out to other people as well
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 21:50 GMT
#535
On June 07 2013 06:38 Skanjab1s wrote:
You're backtracking now,
You said that if you had to vote you would lynch Umasi or Xzav, so obviously he was in the top2 of your "who-I-want-dead" list. Which doesn't make sense since you implied that you had a town read on him previously.

Furthermore, you can't even say what you find scummy about him, besides for a connection-theory which also doesn't indicate much since neither of their alignments are known (to town, at least).



and that "connection theory" was mostly Umasi quoting me. Apart from just targeting the same person.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 21:51 GMT
#536
EBWOP:
yet if you HAD to voteNOW


this is for 2 posts above. its a type that some people might miss.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 21:52 GMT
#537
Editing my EBWOP:

Typo.






Im really bad at typing. xD
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 22:09 GMT
#541
On June 07 2013 06:53 Umasi wrote:
What, specifically, is suspicious of me Xzav?
What can I try to explain?

well for one, the fact that your totally ignoring the posts i just made, and trying to force discussion on the self preservation one, not on the HOLY FUCK THATS SUSPICIOUS one.

I actually see you made a few posts about it. But thats something that i want to push him on. There is no Town Motivated reason for lynching me. Get rid of one of the most active townies that is pushing the game foward for town? Thats a mafia goal. Not a town goal.

Your appearing far less scummy then the little we have seen of gotard so far. But honestly.

##Vote: Gotard

This is simply just illogical. If Gotard provides actual reasoning that he can stand on for accusing me of being scum, then he needs to share it and if i think it could give him ANY reason to be suspicious. Then ill remove this vote. But right now its pretty obvious that the town is happy with me.

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QUOTE]On June 07 2013 07:01 Gotard wrote:
On June 07 2013 06:35 Umasi wrote:
When why would you NOT lynch me, or firere, or someone else who is objectively more scummy?


You are fist on my list and Xzavier was 2nd and i expressed my doubts about him in the same sentence I accused him. 2nd vote doesn't matter much if you only have one. It was like "if you are a scum he might be one as well".

On June 07 2013 06:35 Umasi wrote:
It doesn't matter if you think he was too quick to team up with me, that's not actually relevant here.
If he's a pro town influence, why consider him as a lynch over others?

It's relevant if someone rushes to join someone else's accusations it might mean that he isn't townie. Few pro town posts during first day dosn't mean that guy is innocence. You can never be 100% sure who is who and you can throw random votes on people if you have even one small reason. I know I've made some big mistakes and I hope you won't lynch me today

PS unfortunately I have to go to sleep. See you later today (00:01 in EU ).
[/QUOTE]

So, your meaning to say that because i didnt refresh my page before i posted that im scum? and that because we think hes scum im guilty by association? This is a game full of unkowns. I didnt ever even consider myself working with him, i dont think i used any of the points he brought up, always made my own. and he quoted ME far more than i him (if i did at all lol)

even if its 00:01, this might be a omfg i need to stop posting and hope this blows over so the conversation shifts away from me. Very very suspicious time to go to sleep (not the actuall time on the clock, but when the topic starts pointing at you)

as for the bolded part, thats a mafia mistake, not a town mistake. a town wouldnt have a reason to put me on a list of people to lynch.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 06 2013 23:02 GMT
#544
i want to see him squeal on a pike if he starts accusing other pro town posters of being mafia with no proof. accuse the people who have spearheaded moving the thread in a positive direction, the direction that will lead to catching mafia. The guy who does that must be mafia right? logic pls.

(i should probably say this at the same time so things dont get misunderstood, but him having Umasi at #1 was correct and logically acceptable. But him having me at #2 and saying i attacked the same person as #1 did, therefor im scum. That isnt logical. and thats why he has my vote)

ofc now obviously, until things change. Gotard has my vote.


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/////And a bit of heads up that i should have posted before the game started, im schuelded to work from 2-8 pm tomorrow(i work part time at kroger, but i might be getting fired tomorrow. long story, im not wasting space in this thread about it) , and i think voting ends at 8 pm for me. So my final vote is gonna be sent 2 or 3 hours prior to it (cuz of a break) just so people wonder why i stop posting as it gets closer and closer to the end. just a heads up.////


Gotard, id love to hear your answer in the morning.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 07 2013 04:24 GMT
#554
Gotard is scum, and his posts go against logic and are anti-town.

let me show you why: (i took his only posts with content)

This is the first post he made once the game started.
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On June 07 2013 02:25 Gotard wrote:
After reading everything twice I've came with conclusion that some of you are far from being newbies like me (or you are just really good at pretending which is even worse if you are aren't townies T_T). All in all after some hardcore analysis (aka reading) I sadly do know nothing . Xzavier seemed to be a scum (after following Umasi's accusations) but then he had some awesome pro-town posts. What to do!? What to do!?



I crossed out the fluff

he says two things in this post:
A) his hardcore analysis is shit (it gave him nothing, how do you pick up ZERO vibes/reads when 2 people are flinging shit at somebody)
B) i (Xzavier) seem to be scum, but then gives contradicting evidence, he claims i "followed" Umasi's accusations, then instead of pushing his read, he states that I've been making pro-town posts. so he thinks i'm scum, but then settles into the fact that everybody else has been saying otherwise so he backs off, because he didn't want to draw attention to himself.

A says hes a bad townie/not pro-town.
B says hes scum

Compliment this on the fact that hes been minimally posting, the few posts he has made are pretty scummy. he targeted me from his first post, on very little footing.

Id also like to point out that im his #1 scumread.


This post is the one that caused all the shit to fall on his head.
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On June 07 2013 05:40 Gotard wrote:
If i had to vote now i would lynch you or Xzavier but a the same time it's way too risky to kill the most active (potential) allies.


AFTER people say, "why Xzaver?" i suddenly become the #2 scumread(what happened to #1? oh, we should probably put who everybody else has expressed FoS for at that point:Umasi at #1, go with the flow ect) What? So evidently he still believes I'm scum, okay: any more/new evidence I'm scum? no. He however DOES repeat his same action of indecisive posting. The person i would lynch if somebody forced me to make a decision right now is the same person i think is too risky to kill. AND he tries to fit in with everybody else while still mentioning my name.

that's him faking contribution again, posting even scummier things.


When asked for more contribution: (being compared to the two people who havnt posted yet)
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On June 07 2013 05:30 Umasi wrote:
Gotard, what's the difference in contributions between you and those two? All I really understand from your first post is that you're new and feel inferior.
I'm new and feel inferior, but have tried to do what I can, even if it's bad!
So say what's on your mind!

On June 07 2013 05:34 Gotard wrote:
Math dosn't lie I have like infinity times more posts.


He makes a one-liner defense. Somebody should go define contribute for him.


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On June 07 2013 07:01 Gotard wrote:
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On June 07 2013 06:35 Umasi wrote:
When why would you NOT lynch me, or firere, or someone else who is objectively more scummy?


You are fist on my list and Xzavier was 2nd and i expressed my doubts about him in the same sentence I accused him. 2nd vote doesn't matter much if you only have one. It was like "if you are a scum he might be one as well".

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On June 07 2013 06:35 Umasi wrote:
It doesn't matter if you think he was too quick to team up with me, that's not actually relevant here.
If he's a pro town influence, why consider him as a lynch over others?

It's relevant if someone rushes to join someone else's accusations it might mean that he isn't townie. Few pro town posts during first day dosn't mean that guy is innocence. You can never be 100% sure who is who and you can throw random votes on people if you have even one small reason. I know I've made some big mistakes and I hope you won't lynch me today

PS unfortunately I have to go to sleep. See you later today (00:01 in EU ).


Him having Umasi as his biggest scumread is the only logical part about him iv seen this game. Because it made sense. but i also would like to point out that this isn't new content. He was simply concurring with things others have said about being suspicious of Umasi. So his only logical point is something he took from other people. T.T

Then he goes on to try to continue to attack me subtly and honestly i have no idea why hes including it. "if you are a scum he might be one as well". might be the stupidest thing iv read. Well, since your scum, and you two had a common enemy, hes scum. No proof, no effort put into this. just a "hey heres contribution you asked for" which obviously is bullshits. and he didnt even bother trying to find/quote ANYTHING iv said or posted, in all of his accusations.


He tries to defend himself by attacking me, i believe he said"Few pro town posts during first day dosn't mean that guy is innocence." And yes, i agree. but Pro-Town posts certainly mean your a lot more likely to be town, and if you continue making them then its a good chance that you are town. from the way I've been playing most (if not all) of the people have realized that i am Town. Pro-town posting also helping the town. If your scum making pro-town posts, inevitably you will lead them straight to you. or they will notice that you stop. Its literally impossible to hold the charade of biggest town poster as mafia for any duration of time. You need to look at more than a "few pro town posts" or simply go read my filter then decide for yourself if im scum or town. Most people here have done that and said Town, id love it if you would quote what you have that explains why im not town- oh wait, your just saying it. nothing to back it up. no analysis. in fact instead of analysis you plead not to be killed. That was smart.

if you know you have made some mistakes, and you know what those mistakes are, then you know the simply thing you have to do in order to remedy them is just post content! but for some reason you dont want to post constructive content, my explanation: your scum. i havnt seen any other given reason for your behavior.

then. to top it all off. You say please don't kill me before you even have 3 votes on you(which is pretty shockingly weak of a defense, especially when you only have a few votes. somebody defended himself with 2 votes on him by being an asshole. your answer, saying please lol)

even if it was pretty fucking inconvient that you had to sleep then. you could have said you had work at 5 am. The point still stands thats it LOOKS scummy true or not, and even if that was because of that. I think i outlined enough evidence that your neck should be in a noose at the end of the day.



________________________________

TL:DR

Sheep Gotard
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 07 2013 04:53 GMT
#559
On June 07 2013 13:46 Onegu wrote:
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On June 07 2013 02:48 Umasi wrote:
On June 06 2013 23:15 Onegu wrote:
On June 06 2013 22:40 Yavanna wrote:
On June 06 2013 21:55 Onegu wrote:
Skanjab what is your biggest problem with spicydino is he has had good post on the lurker issue, I am getting a town vibe from him. The strongest read I have is on iVlosk as town t this point, but a wish he would curse less. xzav is also giving me a very strong town vibe. Umasi is my only scummy read as he fueled the iV rant even after it most likely should have been moved on from it. Also the whole brocuff thing. Also what are your guys thought on finding a serial killer?


Could you explain this a little further to me? Make believe I have a mental handicap because I don't really see how Umasi's behavior was anti-town. I got more of a bruised ego vibe than anything. I'm open to discussion on it though. Can you add anything to your case that might sway me?

In other news, I'm trying to discern atm about LoneMeow. He had some input on the lurker lynch issue but since he's just asked a couple questions without any real opinions of his own. Thoughts?



Ok 2 things the first he kept the iV thing going on alot lomger than it needed to be. Secomd and the thing that made me feel the most was he would make a statement and when the majority had different ideals he would conform to them. This is what feels like he is scum.

If I were scum, why would I stay on this train of thought longer than I needed to? It's obviously only drawn attention to myself and basically confirmed iV as town to everyone else. Why is it scummy to stick on it like that?
And I conform to the majority because if everyone else thinks something about the situation, and I'm here thinking something different, but enough people disagree that they can't all be mafia, I realize that I'm probably mistaken and should reevaluate the situation!
Would you prefer I keep tunneling him? Even when it's blatantly counterproductive at that point?


But you did keep going. And that is the point anything counterproductive is good for scum. And if you are right why conform just make better arguements dont just conform on everything.


right now i think Umasi is a bad townie. that or REALLY bad scum. but at the moment he hasnt done all that much to convince me he isnt a bad town. id love for your opinion on my case onegu?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 07 2013 05:02 GMT
#562
Honestly.
my reads for scum go like this as of right now
my #1 is Gotard (no shit)
thats the only one im certain of right now.
and thats who we should lynch day1.

The people i want to look into are: (in no order)
stim addict
Umasi
Firere345
spicy dinosaur guy
lonemeow

with the bottom two on that list being the people i have the least of a read on.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 07 2013 06:03 GMT
#574
Umasi, try to condense y our posts. 5 in a row is a bit much. just something i thought you might want to do.

your paranoia of this is also a little worrying. You are totally nothing but a noob townie in my mind right now. Who didn't want to be accused of doing the exact same things i was doing with the entire iV situation. you felt you needed to continue the war for the sake of honor. thats the way i saw it. was it right, no. the shit-flinging already served its purpose. you continuing it doesnt mean your scum. it means you just made a few unnecessary posts

your suspicious yes, and thats mostly just because you were doing alot of the same things i was doing, but your not scum to me... yet! (DUHDUHDUHDUN)

honestly your posting without fear which is a good thing(it gives us alot of material to proove your innocents(or being bad, which isnt really a harm), stop being paranoid about why everybody is against you. i think its obvious we know who we should lynch day1 unless somebody has a Freudian slip and screams IM MAFIA.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 07 2013 06:09 GMT
#577
um, my TLDR was to say sheep. And were killing GOTARD today. i hav no quals to considering lynching Umasi tomorrow. i dont think hes the best of towns, but id rather kill the scum first. does that make sense onegu?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 07 2013 06:10 GMT
#578
BUT YES, i do agree with him. form your own opinions, and post why your voting for him. i gave a bigass reason, yours doesnt need to be anywhere near as large. but it should be enough to convince me your self aware.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 07 2013 06:19 GMT
#580
yup, i think Umasi is just noobie town, and he knows it, but he knows by posting so much that it helps town (as long as he isnt straight spamming) and it is fine.

like i said, i think we have a solid lynch today.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 07 2013 06:37 GMT
#583
Okay, if gotard is town. then why isnt he doing anything to benefit the town? why doesnt he create content?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 07 2013 07:34 GMT
#588
Lonemeow what do you think of gotard and my case against him?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 07 2013 17:05 GMT
#664
im okay with lynching either one of them today. Firere or gotard.

i have work from 2-8 today (i leave 30 min from now) so im not gonna b able to make lengthy posts, i can explain the reasoning for my vote (if i do switch it)

but right now if gotard isnt mafia, he needs to grow a pair. He made his first constructive post, then didnt even vote for the most scummy person on his list? or one of the current possible bandwagons. Thats weird to me.

but since he has appeared like hes slowly but surely posting more (however scumlike it is) it means we can kill him later if need be on even stronger evidence.

yavannah is newbie as fuck. probably harmless town. wouldnt hurt for her to post more.

iV is troll-town(probably VT)

spicey dinosoar is somebody i was suspicious of for a good amount, but idk. not much he has said makes me think scum.
and what he says makes logical sense, thats more than i can say about half of this thread T.T

skanjab isnt on any of my lists, he puts thought into his actions, and i think there are much better people to lynch right now. and i havnt actually looked at his filter yet.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 07 2013 17:12 GMT
#667
also i think fferyllt is 100% town. biggest town read by far. Just gonna put that here somewhere. He has explained actions, clarified everything for people. generally done a shit-ton of work to make this a much better pro-town environment.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 07 2013 17:29 GMT
#672
On June 08 2013 02:14 fferyllt wrote:
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On June 08 2013 02:05 Xzavier wrote:
im okay with lynching either one of them today. Firere or gotard.

i have work from 2-8 today (i leave 30 min from now) so im not gonna b able to make lengthy posts, i can explain the reasoning for my vote (if i do switch it)

but right now if gotard isnt mafia, he needs to grow a pair. He made his first constructive post, then didnt even vote for the most scummy person on his list? or one of the current possible bandwagons. Thats weird to me.

but since he has appeared like hes slowly but surely posting more (however scumlike it is) it means we can kill him later if need be on even stronger evidence.

yavannah is newbie as fuck. probably harmless town. wouldnt hurt for her to post more.

iV is troll-town(probably VT)

spicey dinosoar is somebody i was suspicious of for a good amount, but idk. not much he has said makes me think scum.
and what he says makes logical sense, thats more than i can say about half of this thread T.T

skanjab isnt on any of my lists, he puts thought into his actions, and i think there are much better people to lynch right now. and i havnt actually looked at his filter yet.

The bolded was a dumb thing to post.


i had to quote this to find where you bolded. and got it, dont post who your positive is town. check.

this is one big learning experience.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 07 2013 22:24 GMT
#692
Usami seems newbie town to me. very emotional too.

Im on my lunch i might get another break before deadline.

The people who attacked usami relentlessly i plan on looking into. im having intedrnal debates over gotard. idk y he wouldnt change his view. like if he was town it means hes curious about me and uses bad logic.

if hes mafia hes fucking retarded.

Either way its obvious hes a noob. idk.

##unvote
##vote firere345


i dont think anybody is that stupid.

Well it took my entire break to say this.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 07 2013 22:30 GMT
#693
Fuck me. sry gotard. i feel bad about this. you woke up at 5 am to respond to me
##unvote
##vote gotard


the claim on firere is weak. im going with my gut and my case.

I really want to look into lonemeow tomorrow
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 07 2013 22:33 GMT
#694
I dont think either case is ironclad. but i think mine agsinst gotard is much stronger than firere.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 08 2013 04:06 GMT
#734
Lonemeow is looking in a rough spot. and im happy i felt a confidence waver with my gotard case (pretty much the moment after i posted it, cuz he would have to be fucking retarded to be scum)

Lonemeow is my proirity 1 atm.

Umasi is looking like town to me. or atleast certainly not scum, he posts too much and contributes.

Spicydinosaur had an interesting filter that im going to review over, anyway time to read all Firere's posts
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 08 2013 04:07 GMT
#735
And GJ fellow townsmen :D <3
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 08 2013 04:10 GMT
#736
I also think gotard may not be scum even more now, because i feel like firere was pushing for a mislynch. Like trying to fuel the fire after it was already dying down?

anybody else get that vibe?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 08 2013 05:38 GMT
#740
On June 08 2013 13:10 Xzavier wrote:
I also think gotard may not be scum even more now, because i feel like firere was pushing for a mislynch. Like trying to fuel the fire after it was already dying down?

anybody else get that vibe?


After alive vs innovation imma read a few filters and make some posts
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 08 2013 05:39 GMT
#741
EBWOP: not really sure why i quoted myself there o.O
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 08 2013 07:38 GMT
#746
Hno like when i try to think of gotards posts as if he were scum: its suicidal. Like how stupid do you hav to be to consistantly attack the confermed town. firere's flip also supports him being town. Is it safe to say no scum bussed firere? cuz he only got lynched by one vote? this gives us a list of people to check on.

Somebody tell me if the above is correct logic pls?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 08 2013 18:28 GMT
#779
On June 09 2013 02:46 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Few more observations:

Xzavier's quick flip at the end bothers me as I thought him town up to that point. Before the vote Xzavier had a lot of analysis on why Gotard was scum, but ignored a lot of what everyone else (me included) was saying to counter this. Not sure if this was scum driven or if Xzavier was just tunneling Gotard so much that he couldn't see any other view. His last post is a stark contradiction to what he has been saying prior.

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On June 08 2013 16:38 Xzavier wrote:
Hno like when i try to think of gotards posts as if he were scum: its suicidal. Like how stupid do you hav to be to consistantly attack the confermed town. firere's flip also supports him being town. Is it safe to say no scum bussed firere? cuz he only got lynched by one vote? this gives us a list of people to check on.

Somebody tell me if the above is correct logic pls?


The bolded part is what is important. Here he finally accepts the logic that he was ignoring for so long. But this revelation on comes AFTER his failed lynching of Gotard. Why not listen to others before?

Just an observation could warrant an invest check

I went back to gotard and i only was on a 15 min break. i didnt have enough time to review ither cases and i didnt want to blindly sheep.

during work i realized i should stop tunneling gotard so hard. i do think hes town now.

And i think the unbolded part is important as well. Just pertaining to catching scum(big picture) instead of the gotard case.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 08 2013 18:31 GMT
#780
I was at work for the 7 hours leading up to vote deadlind. so i was having internal debates and its hard to type alot fast kn a touchscreen phone.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 08 2013 20:44 GMT
#792
On June 09 2013 05:36 Spicydinosaur wrote:
@gotard. I don't think that's a huge point about the reading abilities. New players feel a lot of intimidation early on with reads but then they can get better and feel more confident. As for your list of those with votes on you.. its interesting but im not 100% sure all scum were on you to save firere... yet. Going to wait for night actions to see that.


I agree with this. scum were probably on him.
If i was scum tho i wouldnt want to do the indecisive last minute vote switching. That raises too many questions that a scum wouldnt want to answer. but lonemeow and umasi are really high on my scum list.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 09 2013 04:05 GMT
#821
well shit. we lynch mafia day1, they kill blue night1?

random question? does this mean that there is no SK? since only 1 person died?

why skanjab1?
He wasnt outspoken or a main discussion generator. Time to go read his filter
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 09 2013 04:48 GMT
#826
Hm. Is it worth asking whoever he talked to, to come foward?
he might have accidentally mason'd a scum and scum just kills him cuz logic.

Like is that a possible situation?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 09 2013 17:34 GMT
#877
On June 10 2013 02:12 Onegu wrote:
A few hours before I sleep. Just a few things to add right now I would like to know iV scum reads at this point. Second I doubt there is a SK. I am feeling Gotard is town at this point. Xavier assumeing there are at least 2 scum still alive what are your reads at this point. Ffer do you have anythoughts on yavanna?


Usami/Lonemeow
yavanna isnt even on my radar as im expecting her to be modkilled
Gotard probably is town.


I know this seems super generic. but im off to work. ill explain when i get home in 5ish hours i think
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 10 2013 19:19 GMT
#963
##VOTE LoneMeow

Okay, holy fuck sorry guys. I was schuelde to work for a fuckton of hours this weekend (not normal for me) and i was mostly posting in the AM the last few days (besides being at work) i decided to sleep last night instead of staying up all night and posting on this. sorry :/ Today is my last day of work this week until sat, and i have morning classes tuesday wednesday thursday, So ill be somewhere near as active as i was day1 again.

I got home from work sunday, went to neighbors grad party for 15 min, then found out we had company coming over, thats why i didnt get around to posting yesterday night :/ sry.



anyway, i thought usami was scum because of the way he was beating dead horses tying to get mislynches on day1, how he was continueing the iV shitfest needlessly. and then how he was trying to find as much evidence as possible to back up teh Gotard Lynch. Thats why he was on my scum radar at that time.

His posts day2 arnt the most benificial either
Usami is pretty high up on my scum list, but their are much worse for me right now.

-------------------------------



Lonemeow
Now for this guy. The reason he is scum has mostly been already played out. He was lurking hard and has been taking stabs at every chance he gets to get a different person lynched.

On June 10 2013 02:38 LoneMeow wrote:
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On June 10 2013 01:56 Spicydinosaur wrote:
6. As for lone... I want to see more of his posts before I throw a vote on him. Also Lone... who are your scum reads atm.


I know it sounds a bit OMGUS but I'd point my finger at StiMaDDict right now. The fact is, just about everyone else I am suspicious of currently has interacted with Firere345 in ways that make them look pro-town. It doesn't make me any less suspicious that StiMaDDict didn't bother update his case on me after Firere345 flipped red, even though a relatively large part of the case was based on my defense of Gotard and FoS on Firere345. So I very much want to see how he responds.


+ Show Spoiler +


This quote here is strange, i dont agree with the idea of wasting a vigi bullet night one, im not even sure you can. But he makes a really strange reason, he says he is suspicious of Stim for calling for the vigi to shoot. Yes thats a sign we probably should look into him. He doesnt even defend himself here, he just says okay your scum cuz you think im scum and should be shot. Pretty defensive response.

On June 11 2013 00:04 LoneMeow wrote:
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On June 10 2013 23:57 Spicydinosaur wrote:
What do you think of Stim's call to vig shoot you night 1? Doesn't feel like scum play, but that of a tunneling townie.


That's probably the most townie thing he's done so far, yes. Although I don't consider it very smart move even as such.


Then all of the sudden he thinks stim is super townie for doing this, that wasnt how his "a bit of an OMGUS" he had earlier.

On June 10 2013 16:51 LoneMeow wrote:
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On June 10 2013 16:25 Onegu wrote:
Town: iVlosk and Xzavier


I have some questions about xzavier but I still feel town at this point.


I can agree about iVLosK! looking very town at the moment.

Not so sure about Xzavier though, his activity early on seemed very pro-town but he was somewhat reluctant about Firere345 and the vote switches were just plain weird, there's no explanation on why he switched to Firere345 for a moment, instead he talks about Umasi in that post.



sorry, i guess it was in the message i wrote on my phone that got deleted cuz i accidentally hit The home button (typing long things on a phone is a bitch)

The reason i didnt want to vote for lonemeow is because i hadnt read his filter, didnt have time to analyze his posts, and didnt want to blindly be thrust into lynching somebody i didnt know anything about, other than he was a lurker.
I went back to Gotard because i had alot of signs that indicated Scum, mabye he coulda been playing stupid for all i know, i dont know tho. I was second guessing myself but had nobody else to actually vote. so i went back to gotard.

im just going to post this now so i can show people im active becasue im leaving for work in an hour. T.T
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 10 2013 19:19 GMT
#964
EBWOP

##VOTE LONEMEOW
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 10 2013 19:21 GMT
#965
On June 11 2013 04:01 Umasi wrote:
idk.
I'm pretty fucking confident atm. If someone wants to point out why I'm totally wrong go for it.
Gotard, what about Yavanna mentioning Xzav all the time? It could go many ways, a scum trying to buddy up a townie, a scum buddying up a scum (for some reason), a townie being legitimately impressed (I don't think this is true), or a misled townie buddying up to a scum and being misled.
I don't see your point.



I think Yavanna was trying to be buddy buddy with me so i wouldnt be suspicious of her, which is strange in and of itself. basically saying "im not going to make any cases or do any analysis, you do it"

Which makes me think shes scum just sheeping onto the most active townie at that time (by far)
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 10 2013 19:23 GMT
#966
And i also totally rushed that post and fucked up the spoilers xD
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 10 2013 20:16 GMT
#974
On June 11 2013 05:07 Umasi wrote:
After I die and flip town


i believe thats a TL policy lynch thats widely accepted. you dont say that sentace?

but anyway i think we should vote lonemeow over umasi today. I see alot of panicking going on. I think Umasi might be scum, but i believe that Lonemeow is probably alot more scummy.

This could be a bus right now with lonemeow trying to throw umasi but it makes no sense as to why it wouldnt be Umasi bussing lonemeow?

So fucking confused.

Anyway they are both scummy as fuck. i think todays lynch should be lonemeow. And thast my vote. Ill read this during breaks during work today but i probably wont try to post anything during work unless its short and NEEDs to be said. :/
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 10 2013 20:31 GMT
#978
On June 11 2013 05:26 Gotard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 13:01 Umasi wrote:
We, as town, do not want emotional. We want thought and logic.


This this post was always really suspicious to me:

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 07:30 Xzavier wrote:
Fuck me. sry gotard. i feel bad about this. you woke up at 5 am to respond to me
##unvote
##vote gotard


the claim on firere is weak. im going with my gut and my case.

I really want to look into lonemeow tomorrow


My priorities so far:
1st - LoneMeow
2nd - Umasi and Xzavier

I am still super confused if Xzavier is mafia or not



My lurking today was all accidental, this weekend was busy as fuck which like never happens to me. Weekdays i can be much more active because i dont have work from 12-8 or some shit like that. I only have class 3 days and never work more than 4-5 hours on weekdays. So it helps alot more.

Umasi is certainly looking scummier than me lol. I know that day2 i looked pretty scummy because i didnt post very much to add to the topic. And im trying to now. Today we know that lonemeow should be Lynched. and i think thats whats going to happen. Umasi has been sheeping me for absolutely no reason and its kinda suspicious to me.

Gotard, i was going to make a post if you DIDNT accuse me or question me, because you were always slightly suspicious of me and then all of the sudden i stopped posting, i expected you to be all over that shit, instead you let it go and thats weird to me. Im town and all of what i do is attempting to drive the town foward. My sunday was busy as fuck and that was unfortunate. And im going to make up for it in the next days.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 11 2013 02:52 GMT
#1045
the last scum is most likely one of these people: (in rough order from most to least probable)

Usami
StiMaDDict
Onegu
iVloski (hes outfucking playing us all)


Right now im thinking Usami because he has been trying to defend himself this entire game even when nobody is directly attacking him.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 11 2013 02:55 GMT
#1047
after reading hte post that was sent a minute prior to mine that i missed.

I hav no fucking clue who is scum, but that does clear Usami's name alot.

Alright.

Do we want to say who we are sure isnt scum right now? or save that until day 3? or never say that?

Somebody pls enlighten me. because i think i have it narrowed down pretty well
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 11 2013 02:58 GMT
#1049
On May 15 2013 06:34 Acrofales wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [flips] +

Firere345 as the Mafia Roleblocker was lynched D1
Skanjab1s as the Town Masoner was killed N1
tE_ as the Vanilla Townie was modkilled
Yavanna as the Vanilla Townie was modkilled
LoneMeow as the Vanilla Townie was lynched D2



Why does the OP say Yavanna was Vanilla Townie?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 11 2013 03:10 GMT
#1052
i would say have investigative roles check Stimaddict

He called for a vigi shot on a dead person.

his day1 vote was a VT and he said he was going to vote for said VT every night until he was dead.

That warrents investigation lol
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 11 2013 03:24 GMT
#1056
I know im town, but if you guys want to put investigative roles on me to check, go ahead. but id rather have them searching for scum over "clearing a townie"

you said yourself were here to hunt scum right now.

And yes im town. I had an inactive day yesterday. that probably wont happen again for the rest of this game.

Onagu and Stimaddict are my prime two suspects, those are who we probably should devote our resources too, unless somebdoy has a better idea? (if so share)
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 11 2013 04:29 GMT
#1064
People only hav a scum read on me because i couldnt keep up with my insane level of day1 activity. then i had a busy sunday and didnt hav any time to do any analysis. so im sorry if that makes me look more scummy. but i didnt want to post without having something to say

Sorry for not wanting to waste space. anyway im back to active now. i believe i answrred all the questions and speculations.i dont want the town to mislynch a towny who has been trying there damn well best to benefit the town.

I agree i look scummy. but im trying my best to help the town. i dont want to waste powers on somebody whos scummy becuase he didnt post for a day. stim addict didnt post until 24 hours into day1 but he came out with a case. the posts i HAVE made are all in the towns best intetest. and ill try to keep it that way.

If you think im scummy onegu. id like to take a page out of iV's holy bible. vote me and give a good reason why. because when i have been active. iv been scumhunting and doing my best to build a town atmosphere. i think the current one is shit so lets see what we get out of this. id rather people lay off the FoS and actually try to find scum.

If people think im scummy. please give readons. syre my vote day1 wasnt on firere but i had a ountain of scummy shit gotard wasdoing. on top of lurking. turns out he wasnt but at the time i thought he was i made a case. i didnt sit back and sheep with minimal involvement. i was pressuring people. I might not be as experienced as some of you but i have been playing as best as i can to benefit the town and making a point to make strong reads. fr my play doesnt make sense from a logical standpoint if i was scum.

Im not going to repeat any of this unless you actual give a specific instance or quote. I

i think their are much larger scum reads to look into right now anyway. on a sidenote. what day do we want to ask the cop to come out on? if we wait too late he might die giving us no info. too soon and we dont get enough
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 11 2013 04:40 GMT
#1068
Fine. have them waste their checks and see im town. im going to watch wings for an hour then get back to this. im not trying to hixe anything. i know what i am. but id rather hav a cop catch a scum over a town.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 11 2013 04:42 GMT
#1069
Okay. glad were all on the same page. Be back in a tewhours with some analsys
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 11 2013 05:07 GMT
#1074
Yes i dont want to be checked. because i want cop to find a scum instead of a town. im not afraid of bein revealed or anything. its just i want the cop to het back the most useful resaults.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 12 2013 02:43 GMT
#1159
holy fuck no kills!!!

mass claim sounds risky, and idk if its a good plan.

How many blues are normally in a setup like this? One is dead, were assuming another is a town roleblocker/medic/vigi?

or just the scum forgot to load their gun.

But man thats fucking weird, well played blue roles.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 12 2013 23:57 GMT
#1197
I dont even know.

Okay, I really fucked up playing too much league, but the rest of my night is goign to be spent on this shit.

Right not Umasi is up on my list,
and back to what i said a long time ago, logically. if any scum bussed Firere345 they were the deciding vote that killed him. Thats why i think the people who voted for him are town.

Now the gotard wagon, yes i started that, but i was a town starting that. I realize now that im probably wrong on that, and i realized the logic of why gotard probably isnt scum.

Now lynching Usami tonight is the best option In my opinion. Hes been all over the place, super emotional. defending himself when the topic was on a completely different topic.

If hes scum (which he very well might be) we win, If hes town we cut out some of the fat. He wasnt doing very mujch effective scum hunting, right now i see lynching him as a win-win unless somebody else makes a major slipup.

Onegu is tunnelikng Usami hard. For abosultely no reason still believes im town after being afk for like 36 hours. Thats strange, lol. Ofc im town but you woudlnt know it from the MAJOR change in playstyle that iv just undergone.
unless ofc your scum. (food for thought)

Usami should probably be lynched tonight. I feel like he isnt helping the town.

If Usami flips town im going to do some serious looking into iVlosK. he almost haphazardly is like "im gonna lynch Usami today" and then we get this huge case on him. While i think it might be justified, but if its an actual lynch and not pressure and he flips town after all of this hes going to look even scummier.
speaking of which:
On June 13 2013 06:57 iVLosK! wrote:
I say we lynch what's left of the Gotard wagon (Umasi and Xzavier) and then lynch the two who weren't on firere (Onegu and Stimm). Game over. Glorious town victory.

This is actually a good plan, altho i would like to be last to be lynched on that list (because im town)
Because if a scum actually voted for firere they killed him. he was lynched by 1 vote, if the scum woudla voted for gotard instead it would be a mislynch(we assume) and he would be happy.

i also suggested said quote a day ago lol.

At any rate as of reading threw the filters so far iv seen jackshit since i posted last, no actual new information lol.
But Usami dying tonight would be most beneficial to town, if i dont start being more active ill probably talk to acro. this week wasnt a good time for me because i had exams tuesday and today. (i probably failed my calc exam today :O anyway no excuses, im here)

thats my thoughts as of right now.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 13 2013 00:24 GMT
#1199
most people have just been tunnelling Usami, and his play is erratic and unproductive, all about clearing his name and OMGUSing. Or supporting cases that have already been written, so his neck isnt on the line as the creator of the bandwagon. Which is why hes pretty suspicious. Not to mention is paranoid activity. I feel like hes posting too much trying to feign giving substance but is giving just chaos.

Honestly i would love to here from the other lurkers. out of curiosity.

How much Time is left before the vote deadline?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 13 2013 00:59 GMT
#1202
On June 12 2013 21:11 Onegu wrote:

VOTE: UMASI


thats not the correct voting format, you might want to fix it or make it official using the ##'s
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 13 2013 01:04 GMT
#1203
On June 13 2013 08:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm looking at Umasi right now. Both Stim and Onegu had similar play styles by tunneling one person and not really looking anywhere else. They are so similar so its hard to choose one of them atm.

Umasi on the other hand, has changed the most from the beginning of the game. His posts in the beginning were sheeping but he emphasized logic a lot more. Now look at his posts... just pure chaos. He's either having a mental breakdown or he's going 100% crazy in an effort to look towny. On the other hand, Yavanna said she would lynch him or firere D1. Im not sure how much stock can be put in this comment because she never actually voted and fell off the face of the game. Perhaps scum had a plan.. who knows. What we do know is that Umasi voted for two townies.

I really want to hear what he and everyone else who's been absent from the thread.


So right not were thinking Umasi, and i think thats the smart lynch for today. It makes the town far more effective. and he has taken a massive shift in gameplay, going form logical and reasonable to panicking.

Also depending on the flips, we should mass claim day3. just a thought, you can tell me its bad and explain why its bad, but i think we can end the game on the day3 lynch. (if it doesnt end today)

thoughts?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 13 2013 01:45 GMT
#1214
On June 13 2013 10:10 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 10:04 Xzavier wrote:
On June 13 2013 08:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm looking at Umasi right now. Both Stim and Onegu had similar play styles by tunneling one person and not really looking anywhere else. They are so similar so its hard to choose one of them atm.

Umasi on the other hand, has changed the most from the beginning of the game. His posts in the beginning were sheeping but he emphasized logic a lot more. Now look at his posts... just pure chaos. He's either having a mental breakdown or he's going 100% crazy in an effort to look towny. On the other hand, Yavanna said she would lynch him or firere D1. Im not sure how much stock can be put in this comment because she never actually voted and fell off the face of the game. Perhaps scum had a plan.. who knows. What we do know is that Umasi voted for two townies.

I really want to hear what he and everyone else who's been absent from the thread.


So right not were thinking Umasi, and i think thats the smart lynch for today. It makes the town far more effective. and he has taken a massive shift in gameplay, going form logical and reasonable to panicking.

Also depending on the flips, we should mass claim day3. just a thought, you can tell me its bad and explain why its bad, but i think we can end the game on the day3 lynch. (if it doesnt end today)

thoughts?


Only thing a mass claim will do is show scum who our blues are. We will have a bunch of people claiming VT and if we lynch the wrong guy... then scum can snipe the jailer.


okay got it.

So its jailer/medic.

But if the jailer comes out and says i held this person on the night with the no-kill, and then we lynch that person we win.

So even if he died there would be enough information to win the game. Mabye, i dont know.

Im fine with how things are right now. And Umasi is highest on my list at the moment.

Spicey what do you think of iV right now?
I brought up the idea of how everybody who voted for Firere345 is town, and he shot it down at the time.
and now all of the sudden he brings it back up again as his list of people to lynch in order to end the game.
No sudden realization or reasoning, just two contradicting statements from the same person.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 13 2013 01:46 GMT
#1216
On June 13 2013 10:24 fferyllt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 10:04 Xzavier wrote:
On June 13 2013 08:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm looking at Umasi right now. Both Stim and Onegu had similar play styles by tunneling one person and not really looking anywhere else. They are so similar so its hard to choose one of them atm.

Umasi on the other hand, has changed the most from the beginning of the game. His posts in the beginning were sheeping but he emphasized logic a lot more. Now look at his posts... just pure chaos. He's either having a mental breakdown or he's going 100% crazy in an effort to look towny. On the other hand, Yavanna said she would lynch him or firere D1. Im not sure how much stock can be put in this comment because she never actually voted and fell off the face of the game. Perhaps scum had a plan.. who knows. What we do know is that Umasi voted for two townies.

I really want to hear what he and everyone else who's been absent from the thread.


So right not were thinking Umasi, and i think thats the smart lynch for today. It makes the town far more effective. and he has taken a massive shift in gameplay, going form logical and reasonable to panicking.

Also depending on the flips, we should mass claim day3. just a thought, you can tell me its bad and explain why its bad, but i think we can end the game on the day3 lynch. (if it doesnt end today)

thoughts?


TODAY IS DAY 3


EBWOP: I MEAN DAY4 LYNCH!!!
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 13 2013 01:51 GMT
#1217
On June 13 2013 10:34 Umasi wrote:
okay onegu, I will try to explain why. This is literally the best I can do, to tell you why I'm town
I'm not responding to your posts, I'm responding to...I don't know what I'm responding to.
But rationalize this question:
two things, actually:


A: If I am scum, why have I drawn so much attention to myself, and

B: Why have I not been lynched yet.

What about me is towny enough that people are not voting me?


A.you didnt draw the attention to yourself.
You simply didnt lurk.

B. we always had bigger lynch priorities.



I dont think thats a good enough reasoning. and i see a OMGUS in reaction instead of a defense.

also, you saying you dont know what your responding to? You should be either responding to somebodys pressure on you. or you should be making a case, or you should be discussing reads. or you should be prooving your innocence. right now you havnt done any of those. and the OMGUS makes me even more convinced right now that your panicking.


##VOTE Umasi


if thats the best you can do, its not enough for me.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 13 2013 01:53 GMT
#1218
and some high ungodly wisdom that we are allowed to communicate during noob games had a discussion on mass claims with me, and i realize that its generally not beneficial in this format. So it would only be smart to come out if you KNOW your action stopped the night kill i believe, or if your a cop who just checked a scum(or miller, but then we can determine if its miller/scum)
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 13 2013 02:02 GMT
#1221
On June 13 2013 10:54 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 10:45 Xzavier wrote:
On June 13 2013 10:10 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On June 13 2013 10:04 Xzavier wrote:
On June 13 2013 08:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm looking at Umasi right now. Both Stim and Onegu had similar play styles by tunneling one person and not really looking anywhere else. They are so similar so its hard to choose one of them atm.

Umasi on the other hand, has changed the most from the beginning of the game. His posts in the beginning were sheeping but he emphasized logic a lot more. Now look at his posts... just pure chaos. He's either having a mental breakdown or he's going 100% crazy in an effort to look towny. On the other hand, Yavanna said she would lynch him or firere D1. Im not sure how much stock can be put in this comment because she never actually voted and fell off the face of the game. Perhaps scum had a plan.. who knows. What we do know is that Umasi voted for two townies.

I really want to hear what he and everyone else who's been absent from the thread.


So right not were thinking Umasi, and i think thats the smart lynch for today. It makes the town far more effective. and he has taken a massive shift in gameplay, going form logical and reasonable to panicking.

Also depending on the flips, we should mass claim day3. just a thought, you can tell me its bad and explain why its bad, but i think we can end the game on the day3 lynch. (if it doesnt end today)

thoughts?


Only thing a mass claim will do is show scum who our blues are. We will have a bunch of people claiming VT and if we lynch the wrong guy... then scum can snipe the jailer.


okay got it.

So its jailer/medic.

But if the jailer comes out and says i held this person on the night with the no-kill, and then we lynch that person we win.

So even if he died there would be enough information to win the game. Mabye, i dont know.

Im fine with how things are right now. And Umasi is highest on my list at the moment.

Spicey what do you think of iV right now?
I brought up the idea of how everybody who voted for Firere345 is town, and he shot it down at the time.
and now all of the sudden he brings it back up again as his list of people to lynch in order to end the game.
No sudden realization or reasoning, just two contradicting statements from the same person.


2 people have claimed to be jailed already have come forward if you are just looking for them we know the no kill came from iVlosK being jailed. Looking for the jailer looks really bad.


But couldnt in the same way, iVlosk claim to be jailed (but is really scum) and have that be the explination of why there was no kill. so he claims the KP was on him instead of him being unable to preform the kill??

This is why i think its a better idea, in other words. if the jailer comes out and says he held somebody else, do it and we win? or could it be that he is mindfucking gaming us and he didnt even put forth a KP at all? im not saying hes the scum, but im saying that he could have been roleblocked himself and claim that it saved him, instead of preventing him from shooting. Idk, this is my thoughts. Im not accusing him, but just making a statement that we cant take his claim to be 100% townie hes town all up in this town.

make sense?

of course, the above is almost certainly not applicable. as the jailer should have already come out and explained it, and then we kill him and win. (otherwise he is making this claim for bullshits and impeding the search for scum, which makes no sense)
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
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June 13 2013 02:04 GMT
#1222
On June 13 2013 11:00 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 10:45 Xzavier wrote:
On June 13 2013 10:10 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On June 13 2013 10:04 Xzavier wrote:
On June 13 2013 08:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm looking at Umasi right now. Both Stim and Onegu had similar play styles by tunneling one person and not really looking anywhere else. They are so similar so its hard to choose one of them atm.

Umasi on the other hand, has changed the most from the beginning of the game. His posts in the beginning were sheeping but he emphasized logic a lot more. Now look at his posts... just pure chaos. He's either having a mental breakdown or he's going 100% crazy in an effort to look towny. On the other hand, Yavanna said she would lynch him or firere D1. Im not sure how much stock can be put in this comment because she never actually voted and fell off the face of the game. Perhaps scum had a plan.. who knows. What we do know is that Umasi voted for two townies.

I really want to hear what he and everyone else who's been absent from the thread.


So right not were thinking Umasi, and i think thats the smart lynch for today. It makes the town far more effective. and he has taken a massive shift in gameplay, going form logical and reasonable to panicking.

Also depending on the flips, we should mass claim day3. just a thought, you can tell me its bad and explain why its bad, but i think we can end the game on the day3 lynch. (if it doesnt end today)

thoughts?


Only thing a mass claim will do is show scum who our blues are. We will have a bunch of people claiming VT and if we lynch the wrong guy... then scum can snipe the jailer.


okay got it.

So its jailer/medic.

But if the jailer comes out and says i held this person on the night with the no-kill, and then we lynch that person we win.

So even if he died there would be enough information to win the game. Mabye, i dont know.

Im fine with how things are right now. And Umasi is highest on my list at the moment.

Spicey what do you think of iV right now?
I brought up the idea of how everybody who voted for Firere345 is town, and he shot it down at the time.
and now all of the sudden he brings it back up again as his list of people to lynch in order to end the game.
No sudden realization or reasoning, just two contradicting statements from the same person.


When the jailer jails... he protects the target and acts as a roleblock on them. So if mafia and jailer target the same person, then there is no kill. Alternatively, if the jailer selects the scum killer, then he roleblocks and there is no kill.

Another problem with your idea is that you are telling everyone. Scum can just no kill next night and make it look like scum was roleblocked. Not a very reliable strategy.

As for iV...and this goes for everyone else voting firere D1... to say they are scum is to say that they bussed one of their own, even when another scum (yavanna) goes afk. The odds are more likely that scum voted for Gotard or another person.



why would you hold your kp, thats a HUGE risk with little reward, unless you were to claim vigi or something? which is still a massive risk.

Idk, my entire claiming idea is bad and you explained why its bad so im content with not bringing it up again.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 02:09 GMT
#1225
okay, so then if you had it in your vote to save Firere345 and your scum, and you could do it. why wouldnt you?
He doesnt flip then adn there so people wont know that you just saved the scum's life. so there isnt a downside other than you have to come up with an acceptable reason (which i gave many) to switch votes? of course you always would want to wait to vote as scum anyway.

I stil dont understand why if a could scum could be the deciding vote between a scumlynch and a mislynch, why he couldnt think of SOME
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 02:10 GMT
#1226
reason to mislynch.


aparently i fat-fingered a key which posted the post before i was finished with it :O
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 02:12 GMT
#1227
On June 13 2013 11:08 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 11:02 Xzavier wrote:
On June 13 2013 10:54 Onegu wrote:
On June 13 2013 10:45 Xzavier wrote:
On June 13 2013 10:10 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On June 13 2013 10:04 Xzavier wrote:
On June 13 2013 08:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm looking at Umasi right now. Both Stim and Onegu had similar play styles by tunneling one person and not really looking anywhere else. They are so similar so its hard to choose one of them atm.

Umasi on the other hand, has changed the most from the beginning of the game. His posts in the beginning were sheeping but he emphasized logic a lot more. Now look at his posts... just pure chaos. He's either having a mental breakdown or he's going 100% crazy in an effort to look towny. On the other hand, Yavanna said she would lynch him or firere D1. Im not sure how much stock can be put in this comment because she never actually voted and fell off the face of the game. Perhaps scum had a plan.. who knows. What we do know is that Umasi voted for two townies.

I really want to hear what he and everyone else who's been absent from the thread.


So right not were thinking Umasi, and i think thats the smart lynch for today. It makes the town far more effective. and he has taken a massive shift in gameplay, going form logical and reasonable to panicking.

Also depending on the flips, we should mass claim day3. just a thought, you can tell me its bad and explain why its bad, but i think we can end the game on the day3 lynch. (if it doesnt end today)

thoughts?


Only thing a mass claim will do is show scum who our blues are. We will have a bunch of people claiming VT and if we lynch the wrong guy... then scum can snipe the jailer.


okay got it.

So its jailer/medic.

But if the jailer comes out and says i held this person on the night with the no-kill, and then we lynch that person we win.

So even if he died there would be enough information to win the game. Mabye, i dont know.

Im fine with how things are right now. And Umasi is highest on my list at the moment.

Spicey what do you think of iV right now?
I brought up the idea of how everybody who voted for Firere345 is town, and he shot it down at the time.
and now all of the sudden he brings it back up again as his list of people to lynch in order to end the game.
No sudden realization or reasoning, just two contradicting statements from the same person.


2 people have claimed to be jailed already have come forward if you are just looking for them we know the no kill came from iVlosK being jailed. Looking for the jailer looks really bad.


But couldnt in the same way, iVlosk claim to be jailed (but is really scum) and have that be the explination of why there was no kill. so he claims the KP was on him instead of him being unable to preform the kill??

This is why i think its a better idea, in other words. if the jailer comes out and says he held somebody else, do it and we win? or could it be that he is mindfucking gaming us and he didnt even put forth a KP at all? im not saying hes the scum, but im saying that he could have been roleblocked himself and claim that it saved him, instead of preventing him from shooting. Idk, this is my thoughts. Im not accusing him, but just making a statement that we cant take his claim to be 100% townie hes town all up in this town.

make sense?

of course, the above is almost certainly not applicable. as the jailer should have already come out and explained it, and then we kill him and win. (otherwise he is making this claim for bullshits and impeding the search for scum, which makes no sense)



NO NO NO NO NO NO!

Jailer is not coming out. End of story. Jailer could not tell us any additional information. In most my games I've played there is no notification of saves on people who are attacked. iVlosk says he was rolelbocked and no one counter claims so I believe it. Could he be scum shooting... sure, but right now it isn't likely. And if we have the jailer jail him again, all scum needs to do is not kill and then iVlosk gets mislynched.


kk got it, it makes sense, somebody else would have counterclaimed (which is what i was trying to say without remembering that word) And alright, jailer doesnt come out, that also makes sense. Because it shouldnt be the jailer who comes out, but somebody else counterclaiming that he was roleblocked.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 02:17 GMT
#1228
On June 13 2013 11:07 fferyllt wrote:
As scum, I would not hesitate to bus a scum partner. If I thought the wagon was going to go through, I would get on it before it was a foregone conclusion.

I have literally done this minutes before the town pile-on started and looked like I was in front and leading the way. More than once.

If I were scum, I most likelly would have been on the Firere wagon. I would have gotten on it a little bit later than when I did, but early enough not to look like I"d given up on the wagon fading away.

This stuff about nobody bussing Firere is not surefire.

Not

at

all


what im trying to say, is bussing Firere day1 doesnt make much sense to me, even if you got the town cred for leading the charge, i wouldnt risk it UNLESS they were afk, and he wasnt. sure he was lurking but it just doesnt make sense to me, ill take your advice and not count them as 100% town, but they are certainly farther up on my town list for voting him.

It just seems like a HORRIBLE scum play to buss him like that. Just to me, i can see the reason why you would do it, but it seems rather selfish and in the end you are lowering your chances to win (town/mafia ratio is even worse for you)

but i still am new to this so i wont die by my speculations and only by what i can see as facts.

I will concede my reasoning that all people who were on that wagon are town, but then the question comes up, why did iV suggest a lynch order to kill everybody who wasnt on that wagon? (After agreeing with what you just posted) that bothers me, not enough to change my vote. but its enough to keep me up at night.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 02:39 GMT
#1232
i believe i explicilitely asked people if what i was saying was a good or bad idea!!

this is my first game of forum mafia, im new to like fucking 15 different roles and still only have minimal understands of how they interact with the game, i wasnt pushing for him to come out, i was asking for other peoples ideas. go back and reread my post again, i wasnt calling for him to come out, or even pushing. i was thinking outloud. and now im very worried about you as well.


read the last two fucking lines of that post again, THE ABOVE IS CERTAINLY NOT APPLICABLE

i wasnt pushing for him to come out, i was thinking in the thread. something which i should clearly not do again because people will try to twist it in order to paint me as scum
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 02:41 GMT
#1233
and in posts after i explained how i mixed up the counterclaim not coming from the jailer but from the other person who was thrown into jail.

Fucking who is more useful and contributed more actual thought and less chaos. Me or Umasi, Ask yourself that, and then ask why your voting for me right now?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 02:43 GMT
#1234
jailer coming out and somebody else claiming they were jailed were both to be understood, i realized i mistyped that and that i should have worded that better, but in the posts after that was made clear, but because i had a bad idea WHICH I ASKED TO BE TOLD IF IT WAS BAD, is not something to vote somebody for, you simply tell them that its bad and they drop it. now im really wondering how you missed those lines in my posts....

(yes in real life i talk without periods, i take one really big motherfucking breath than i spew words for 10 minutes straight until i have to pause to breath again)
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 02:52 GMT
#1237
On June 13 2013 11:50 fferyllt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 11:46 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On June 13 2013 11:32 fferyllt wrote:
Extremely mixed.

I have been exploring a lot of paranoid possibilities today, and I can see a paranoid-as-fuck case for iV being scum. It's not the only paranoid case I'm mulling over.


Whats the other case?

Onegu


That would explain his misquoting me in attempt to fuel a bandwagon? (or abusing open thought)
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 03:01 GMT
#1240
On June 13 2013 11:55 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 10:04 Xzavier wrote:
On June 13 2013 08:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm looking at Umasi right now. Both Stim and Onegu had similar play styles by tunneling one person and not really looking anywhere else. They are so similar so its hard to choose one of them atm.

Umasi on the other hand, has changed the most from the beginning of the game. His posts in the beginning were sheeping but he emphasized logic a lot more. Now look at his posts... just pure chaos. He's either having a mental breakdown or he's going 100% crazy in an effort to look towny. On the other hand, Yavanna said she would lynch him or firere D1. Im not sure how much stock can be put in this comment because she never actually voted and fell off the face of the game. Perhaps scum had a plan.. who knows. What we do know is that Umasi voted for two townies.

I really want to hear what he and everyone else who's been absent from the thread.


So right not were thinking Umasi, and i think thats the smart lynch for today. It makes the town far more effective. and he has taken a massive shift in gameplay, going form logical and reasonable to panicking.

Also depending on the flips, we should mass claim day3. just a thought, you can tell me its bad and explain why its bad, but i think we can end the game on the day3 lynch. (if it doesnt end today)

thoughts?


Show nested quote +
okay got it.So its jailer/medic.But if the jailer comes out and says i held this person on the night with the no-kill, and then we lynch that person we win.So even if he died there would be enough information to win the game. Mabye, i dont know. Im fine with how things are right now. And Umasi is highest on my list at the moment. Spicey what do you think of iV right now?I brought up the idea of how everybody who voted for Firere345 is town, and he shot it down at the time.and now all of the sudden he brings it back up again as his list of people to lynch in order to end the game. No sudden realization or reasoning, just two contradicting statements from the same person.



Saying a thought and maybe doesnt mean you arent pushing


seems like a pretty shitty way to push for something, i could think of alot better
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 03:17 GMT
#1244
On June 13 2013 12:14 Onegu wrote:
Am I alone here? The reason this looks so bad to me is the only way I can see scum winning is killing the jailer.



Now whos fishing for some motherfucking agreement.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 03:17 GMT
#1245
see, thats literally what you just tried to do to me.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 03:33 GMT
#1248
okay, um, go hunt for evidence and ignore all the shit i did to try to help the town. you go do that.

I didnt say i wanted to lynch you because it would make the town more effective, i said that was my reasoning that if you flipped town i wouldnt feel as bad. I think your scum, but as the time flies by im thinking more and more that it might be onegu.

and good luck, try to find all the shit. And the go quote my post saying that it looked like yavanna was asking me to do all the work and that its suspicious. you go find that shit bro
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 03:42 GMT
#1255
i said something hinting to it, but i didnt want to bash the fuck out of her at the very start of the game, i was going to wait to see a few more posts from her and not judge her based off that alone. But she never posted anymore so it wasnt exactly my problem, and she was modkilled accordingly, also

i asked you to quote this:
On June 07 2013 01:44 Xzavier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 23:24 fferyllt wrote:
I'm going to go against the current here and say that Yavanna worries me a bit because she's being awfully nice when going for clarification. The self-deprecation that comes with her questions to players. Stuff like

"Make believe I have a mental handicap because I don't really see how Umasi's behavior was anti-town."

Or this to xZAv

"Now that I've ruffled your feathers"

what ruffled feathers? Yavanna you agreed with xZav in that post.

And yet with assurances that you'll be plenty abrasive when the time comes.

On June 06 2013 16:23 Yavanna wrote:
Shit I'm sorry...? Should I put on my bitch face? I mean there's like 3 people talking here. When someone comes into the thread that I should jump on I will, but I haven't seen anything to make me do so yet. I'm really not so nice all the time but those of you who I'm conversing with are townie as fuck imo. Should I pull an iV and attack you just for shits?


On June 06 2013 16:30 Yavanna wrote:
Ermahgerd...I can feel the Vlosk coming!! RAAAAGGGGEEE!!

No but in all seriousness, I just don't see the point in being an asshole unless its warranted. When I think someone is doing something scummy I'll jump all over their ass and not feel bad about it in the least.


I'm not seeing any sign of this iron fist in the velvet glove. Yavanna is working for minor clarifications from her town reads, mostly, which isn't such a great place to put a lot of effort.

i believe that she meant she didnt want to flatter me overly too much lol. thats the way i read it atleast. but yeah, this might be because she is new, but she does seem overly apologetic and it is suspicious when somebody says i dunno who im gonna vote for, so im going to sheep you, this early on. I mean id be okay with her saying she was going to sheep me if she had absolutely no reads, but this is almost giving her an excuse not to try and make reads/find mafia. kinda like saying here, you do the work. and then ofc not having her name attached to it anywhere.


now tell me again that i was buddy buddy with her?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 03:45 GMT
#1259
...

Your saying all of this after the flip, when its pretty fucking obvious.

Now i had no information of her role day1, so my interaction was her was one of "meh" because i was still forming a read.

i flipped out on iV because he was asking for it.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 03:48 GMT
#1261
On June 13 2013 12:42 Umasi wrote:
Ffer, how do you get xzav being anything but null out of the yavanna interactions?


at that point in time i was one of the most town looking people, active making pro town posts. the godfather was trying too hard to get on my good side, thats how i see it now. And thats why its a null read.

IF were both mafia, why the fuck would you tie yourself to each other, that wuold be something you would post in the mafia quicktopic, not this one. O.o
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 03:48 GMT
#1264
On June 13 2013 12:46 Umasi wrote:
"it wasn't exactly my problem"
of course it's your problem.
it's mafia, everything is your problem.


modkills arnt my job. stop saying pointless shit like that
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 03:49 GMT
#1266
On June 13 2013 12:48 Umasi wrote:
one fucking second:
ONE FUCKING SECOND:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 13:56 Xzavier wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:53 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:50 Umasi wrote:
iV, you DO care if people trust you.
THAT IS HOW YOU WIN THE GAME
You can't be correct on every read and win without convincing everyone else to go along with your read.

Wait for it...





Wait for it...

On June 06 2013 13:50 Xzavier wrote:
##unvote iVosk!

Huh, I guess he trusts me. And I did it all without making some shitty "plan" that I'm not going to follow anyway. Go figure.

The plan talk was just something to get to shitflinging. We got there. im curious as to what else should be done.


Why not CONTINUE THE SHITFLINGING
he wasn't asking for it, this is explicitly your motivation.



you continued the shitflinging, and look where it got you that day.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 03:55 GMT
#1269
On June 13 2013 12:51 Umasi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 12:49 Xzavier wrote:
On June 13 2013 12:48 Umasi wrote:
one fucking second:
ONE FUCKING SECOND:
On June 06 2013 13:56 Xzavier wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:53 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:50 Umasi wrote:
iV, you DO care if people trust you.
THAT IS HOW YOU WIN THE GAME
You can't be correct on every read and win without convincing everyone else to go along with your read.

Wait for it...





Wait for it...

On June 06 2013 13:50 Xzavier wrote:
##unvote iVosk!

Huh, I guess he trusts me. And I did it all without making some shitty "plan" that I'm not going to follow anyway. Go figure.

The plan talk was just something to get to shitflinging. We got there. im curious as to what else should be done.


Why not CONTINUE THE SHITFLINGING
he wasn't asking for it, this is explicitly your motivation.



you continued the shitflinging, and look where it got you that day.


Yes, I did continue the shitflinging!
But what's wrong with doing it on an entirely new target who is objectively acting unbelievably suspicious?


go back and re-read day1. i think your memory might be a little off.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 04:18 GMT
#1273
On June 13 2013 13:16 fferyllt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 13:11 Umasi wrote:
Xzavier, what is off about my memory of day one?

Two things ffer:
One: WHY WOULD XZAV NOT FIND HER SUSPICIOUS AND CALL HER ON IT. I found her suspicious and I'm not even xzav. t.t
The way xzav has been playing would lead me to believe he would call someone on that kind of thing, that's just how I feel he has been this game. I don't know his meta, he doesn't have a meta. But, with my perception of him, he would call her on it if he were town.
Two: Firere/Yav hardly have interactions, I think it's entirely possible Yav was just being an idiot and xzav was like t.t go away, compared to calling her on it.
I admittedly don't know why he wouldn't correct her in the scum qt, but all of this talking, if memory serves, was kinda rapid. It would be awkward to switch between the scum thread and this thread, which may go quite a way.


The bolded is exactly right. The confirmed scum hardly interacted. And Yavanna even said she was willing to lynch Firere. THAT is how newb scum act.

Xzav was reveling in being townread and viewed as a town leader and not just by Yavanna. You were openly willing to sheep his vote. Sheeping his vote wasn't scummy, but it was kinda ill advised given that ALL of the more experienced players were on a different wagon.



^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^




this this this this this.

please fucking read this.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 04:23 GMT
#1276
On June 13 2013 12:42 Xzavier wrote:
i said something hinting to it, but i didnt want to bash the fuck out of her at the very start of the game, i was going to wait to see a few more posts from her and not judge her based off that alone. But she never posted anymore so it wasnt exactly my problem, and she was modkilled accordingly, also

i asked you to quote this:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 01:44 Xzavier wrote:
On June 06 2013 23:24 fferyllt wrote:
I'm going to go against the current here and say that Yavanna worries me a bit because she's being awfully nice when going for clarification. The self-deprecation that comes with her questions to players. Stuff like

"Make believe I have a mental handicap because I don't really see how Umasi's behavior was anti-town."

Or this to xZAv

"Now that I've ruffled your feathers"

what ruffled feathers? Yavanna you agreed with xZav in that post.

And yet with assurances that you'll be plenty abrasive when the time comes.

On June 06 2013 16:23 Yavanna wrote:
Shit I'm sorry...? Should I put on my bitch face? I mean there's like 3 people talking here. When someone comes into the thread that I should jump on I will, but I haven't seen anything to make me do so yet. I'm really not so nice all the time but those of you who I'm conversing with are townie as fuck imo. Should I pull an iV and attack you just for shits?


On June 06 2013 16:30 Yavanna wrote:
Ermahgerd...I can feel the Vlosk coming!! RAAAAGGGGEEE!!

No but in all seriousness, I just don't see the point in being an asshole unless its warranted. When I think someone is doing something scummy I'll jump all over their ass and not feel bad about it in the least.


I'm not seeing any sign of this iron fist in the velvet glove. Yavanna is working for minor clarifications from her town reads, mostly, which isn't such a great place to put a lot of effort.

i believe that she meant she didnt want to flatter me overly too much lol. thats the way i read it atleast. but yeah, this might be because she is new, but she does seem overly apologetic and it is suspicious when somebody says i dunno who im gonna vote for, so im going to sheep you, this early on. I mean id be okay with her saying she was going to sheep me if she had absolutely no reads, but this is almost giving her an excuse not to try and make reads/find mafia. kinda like saying here, you do the work. and then ofc not having her name attached to it anywhere.


now tell me again that i was buddy buddy with her?


thats not exactly a free pass, thats saying "your looking pretty suspicious, start being useful or some questions might arise" now, i am wondering if you even read this post. read the bolded and tell me it was a free pass again
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 04:25 GMT
#1278
i was considering a mass claim at the start, hell i wont even say that. i was asking about it because it sounded like an interesting thought, i wasnt pushign it or anyhting. i was merely trying to gather information about how they work.

and the guides arnt black and white, and certainly are not explicitely geared toward noobie games. i was asking the advice of the more experienced players, and they gave it to me, and it leaves me wondering why the experienced people answered my questions and the less experienced people are trying to get my lynched for it. the thing that bothers me is i dont know which one of you two is the scum.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 04:26 GMT
#1279
On June 13 2013 13:25 Umasi wrote:
Okay I will make this part towards you PERFECTLY FUCKING CLEAR:
WHY
DID
YOU
NOT
BRING
IT
UP
WITH
HER



On June 13 2013 13:23 Xzavier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 12:42 Xzavier wrote:
i said something hinting to it, but i didnt want to bash the fuck out of her at the very start of the game, i was going to wait to see a few more posts from her and not judge her based off that alone. But she never posted anymore so it wasnt exactly my problem, and she was modkilled accordingly, also

i asked you to quote this:
On June 07 2013 01:44 Xzavier wrote:
On June 06 2013 23:24 fferyllt wrote:
I'm going to go against the current here and say that Yavanna worries me a bit because she's being awfully nice when going for clarification. The self-deprecation that comes with her questions to players. Stuff like

"Make believe I have a mental handicap because I don't really see how Umasi's behavior was anti-town."

Or this to xZAv

"Now that I've ruffled your feathers"

what ruffled feathers? Yavanna you agreed with xZav in that post.

And yet with assurances that you'll be plenty abrasive when the time comes.

On June 06 2013 16:23 Yavanna wrote:
Shit I'm sorry...? Should I put on my bitch face? I mean there's like 3 people talking here. When someone comes into the thread that I should jump on I will, but I haven't seen anything to make me do so yet. I'm really not so nice all the time but those of you who I'm conversing with are townie as fuck imo. Should I pull an iV and attack you just for shits?


On June 06 2013 16:30 Yavanna wrote:
Ermahgerd...I can feel the Vlosk coming!! RAAAAGGGGEEE!!

No but in all seriousness, I just don't see the point in being an asshole unless its warranted. When I think someone is doing something scummy I'll jump all over their ass and not feel bad about it in the least.


I'm not seeing any sign of this iron fist in the velvet glove. Yavanna is working for minor clarifications from her town reads, mostly, which isn't such a great place to put a lot of effort.

i believe that she meant she didnt want to flatter me overly too much lol. thats the way i read it atleast. but yeah, this might be because she is new, but she does seem overly apologetic and it is suspicious when somebody says i dunno who im gonna vote for, so im going to sheep you, this early on. I mean id be okay with her saying she was going to sheep me if she had absolutely no reads, but this is almost giving her an excuse not to try and make reads/find mafia. kinda like saying here, you do the work. and then ofc not having her name attached to it anywhere.


now tell me again that i was buddy buddy with her?


thats not exactly a free pass, thats saying "your looking pretty suspicious, start being useful or some questions might arise" now, i am wondering if you even read this post. read the bolded and tell me it was a free pass again



read quote pls.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 04:28 GMT
#1282
who the fuck do you think........

jesus fucking christ, why did you even put ffer's name on that list. your trying as hard as you can to mislynch me, and for that i feel very sorry.

bro, your like trying to trick me into saying something that you think you can get my lynched over, do that to your scumreads, and apply pressure. dont fucking go balls deep HAM in the paint balls to the wall motherfucking badass on somebody because they FUCKING SAID WHAT YOUR CALLING THEM OUT ON NOT SAYING
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 04:29 GMT
#1283
On June 13 2013 13:28 Umasi wrote:
hey, xzav, I read your quote
I did it
you were suspicious of her.
Why didn't you question her about it DIRECTLY WITHIN THE INTERACTIONS.



On June 13 2013 12:42 Xzavier wrote:
i said something hinting to it, but i didnt want to bash the fuck out of her at the very start of the game, i was going to wait to see a few more posts from her and not judge her based off that alone. But she never posted anymore so it wasnt exactly my problem, and she was modkilled accordingly, also

i asked you to quote this:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 01:44 Xzavier wrote:
On June 06 2013 23:24 fferyllt wrote:
I'm going to go against the current here and say that Yavanna worries me a bit because she's being awfully nice when going for clarification. The self-deprecation that comes with her questions to players. Stuff like

"Make believe I have a mental handicap because I don't really see how Umasi's behavior was anti-town."

Or this to xZAv

"Now that I've ruffled your feathers"

what ruffled feathers? Yavanna you agreed with xZav in that post.

And yet with assurances that you'll be plenty abrasive when the time comes.

On June 06 2013 16:23 Yavanna wrote:
Shit I'm sorry...? Should I put on my bitch face? I mean there's like 3 people talking here. When someone comes into the thread that I should jump on I will, but I haven't seen anything to make me do so yet. I'm really not so nice all the time but those of you who I'm conversing with are townie as fuck imo. Should I pull an iV and attack you just for shits?


On June 06 2013 16:30 Yavanna wrote:
Ermahgerd...I can feel the Vlosk coming!! RAAAAGGGGEEE!!

No but in all seriousness, I just don't see the point in being an asshole unless its warranted. When I think someone is doing something scummy I'll jump all over their ass and not feel bad about it in the least.


I'm not seeing any sign of this iron fist in the velvet glove. Yavanna is working for minor clarifications from her town reads, mostly, which isn't such a great place to put a lot of effort.

i believe that she meant she didnt want to flatter me overly too much lol. thats the way i read it atleast. but yeah, this might be because she is new, but she does seem overly apologetic and it is suspicious when somebody says i dunno who im gonna vote for, so im going to sheep you, this early on. I mean id be okay with her saying she was going to sheep me if she had absolutely no reads, but this is almost giving her an excuse not to try and make reads/find mafia. kinda like saying here, you do the work. and then ofc not having her name attached to it anywhere.


now tell me again that i was buddy buddy with her?

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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 04:37 GMT
#1287

Umasi, please. stop going around in circles. if your goign to ask the same question over and over again, and i keep giving you the same answer. Why do you think im going to give you a different answer.

and yes ffer is a badass and really good at the game, and i didnt want to state my read on somebody because of one post. That has also been said, if you ask me the same thing again i probably wont even give you the curtisy of quoting myself a page back answering that same question. so please, stop spamming this thread. unless you have something new to say.


EVER THINK THAT MABYE SOMEBODY HIT F5 FIRST?

or mabye people MISS things?

your fucking coming at me like your expecting me to be perfect, your asking me why i missed something (which i didnt miss, as quoted) on my FIRST game of forum mafia ever?

do you realize how silly you sound?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 04:38 GMT
#1289
your fucking blind
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 04:41 GMT
#1291
hey hey hey, i want to hear ffer talk too. hes a good guy. <3

no seriously please, can we get some logic up in this bitch?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 04:51 GMT
#1295
Umasi, thats what i was asking for a looong time, and the answer they gave was mainly this:

Town cred

You dont want to be the last one to join a lynch, or wait too overly long. it doesnt look good. you want to join busses early if your going to bus, its not required, but it works best if your bussing in that fashion.

If they switched their vote off and somebdoy else switched to firere345 (say me, if i dindt switch back to gotard) they would look hella-bad and most definately be the biggest lynch target the next day.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 04:56 GMT
#1299
Jesus, i asked this same question over and over and over, go look at the answers they gave me before you ask the same ones again.

then ask for clarifications.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 05:05 GMT
#1305
On June 13 2013 14:01 fferyllt wrote:
I think it is possible.

And I don't think scum Xzav would have changed his vote and then changed it again five minutes later. All it did was call attention to him. He could have stayed on Gotard and been much less visible.

I think we are looking for scum in the minor wagons and on the Firere wagon. Not on the Gotard wagon.


Really?

well still, at any rate. all roads lead to Onegu.

##Unvote


I dont think scum Umasi would go that balls deep HAM in the paint balls to the wall motherfucking badass on somebody.

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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 05:12 GMT
#1307
On June 13 2013 14:05 fferyllt wrote:
yeah, I saw that.

One vote is not a big deal.

To me the bigger issue is going through the process of elimination and removing players from the lynch pool based on good reasoning. Because, the bigger the lynch pool, the more likely the final scum will win.


This is also something i agree with.

im a bit worried about gotard. he hasnt posted anyhting day3. like literally nothing.

his entire filter is 2 pages. and since day2 he hasnt really said anythign of value.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 05:18 GMT
#1309
my PoE right now has it down to

(most probably)Onegu or (possibly)iV.

you? (this ofc being of the active people)
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 17:19 GMT
#1328
what in the actual fuck. If i get lynched, please kill iV and win the game. please.

And seriously, best mislynch NA. Fucking retards. i spent forever defending myself, and then iV accuses me of doing something that ONLY a town would do and says its scummy. You sir, are fucking retarded. If you think its me or umasi, its umasi, but i think its you, or onegu. But in actuallity, i dont think your going to get enough support to lynch me so im not worried.

But seriously, what in the fuck are you actually trying to pull?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 17:36 GMT
#1331
On June 14 2013 02:29 fferyllt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 22:26 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 13 2013 22:14 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On June 13 2013 21:41 iVLosK! wrote:

Let me just point out that KP is not roleblockable. Because apparently nobody knows. If I was jailed and I had KP, my KP would still go through. KP is something that's held by the mafia faction, not any individual player.


What are you basing this off of? As far as we know there is only 1 scum left so he has to carry it out the kill himself. Hypothetically if u were last scum and jailed, your kill will not go through.

My own experience. Unless things are run drastically different here on TL, KP is not roleblockable unless explicitly stated in the rules.


Reading the role descriptions on page 1 I'm not seeing how you figure this.


I think he does know, if you got roleblocked during the night you would look pretty damn hard into it, and then if your scum you would claim to not know it blocked KP....

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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 17:39 GMT
#1333
no. it does not Onegu. because somebody has to "carry out the kill"
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 20:13 GMT
#1356
##VOTE ONEGU

and if its not him. its iV.

So were winning this game before night 4.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 20:42 GMT
#1359
im 100% confident that if Onegu doesnt flip scum, its iV. and well fucking played iV. your a god damn mad genious, playing your "pro card" flaunting your dick all over the place, and if you do somehow manage to lynch me. id like everybody to read this post and realize that he is scum. hell ill make a full case on him right before the lynch if it looks like im going to die. so please, vote for him tomorrow. no matter what todays vote is i believe iV is scum.

except i did express concern of him before.

people ignore half of what i post
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 21:27 GMT
#1374
On June 14 2013 05:44 Umasi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 05:42 Xzavier wrote:
im 100% confident that if Onegu doesnt flip scum, its iV. and well fucking played iV. your a god damn mad genious, playing your "pro card" flaunting your dick all over the place, and if you do somehow manage to lynch me. id like everybody to read this post and realize that he is scum. hell ill make a full case on him right before the lynch if it looks like im going to die. so please, vote for him tomorrow. no matter what todays vote is i believe iV is scum.

except i did express concern of him before.

people ignore half of what i post


Why are you voting for Onegu then?
I don't mind contradictions, but the line "no matter what todays vote is I believe iV is scum" is contradictory, and I think you're getting a bit confused.



Its if onegu flips town scum is iV. im starting to seriously worry about the lurkers.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 21:30 GMT
#1376
On June 14 2013 05:44 Umasi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 05:42 Xzavier wrote:
im 100% confident that if Onegu doesnt flip scum, its iV. and well fucking played iV. your a god damn mad genious, playing your "pro card" flaunting your dick all over the place, and if you do somehow manage to lynch me. id like everybody to read this post and realize that he is scum. hell ill make a full case on him right before the lynch if it looks like im going to die. so please, vote for him tomorrow. no matter what todays vote is i believe iV is scum.

except i did express concern of him before.

people ignore half of what i post


Why are you voting for Onegu then?
I don't mind contradictions, but the line "no matter what todays vote is I believe iV is scum" is contradictory, and I think you're getting a bit confused.



Its if onegu flips town scum is iV. im starting to seriously worry about the lurkers.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 21:30 GMT
#1377
Phone doublepost op
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 21:34 GMT
#1379
linch scum not lurkers.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 22:49 GMT
#1398
On June 14 2013 07:36 StiMaDDict wrote:
##Vote: StiMaDDict
After LoneMeow's mislynch (by me), I was both busy irl and afraid to take part in the game. It's all bit too much for me to follow.
Just want to pull out of the game at this point.



talk to the host. there are ways of leaving teh game and being replaced instead of saying "hey kill me now pls"
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 22:57 GMT
#1406
talk to a mod. if hes scum hes in a good spot, he woulod hav no reason to concede. i htink he just needs to talk to the host
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 14 2013 00:59 GMT
#1469
jesus christ. really gonna make me vote stim?

##UNVOTE

##VOTE STIMADDICT


On June 14 2013 09:44 iVLosK! wrote:
Xzavier, you say if Onegu flips town than I am definitely scum and we definitely need to lynch me after. Let me ask you something, suppose I flip town, then what are your thoughts? And if you say something moronic like "You won't flip town." I promise I will come to whatever mud hut you live in and shit down your throat. I want all your thoughts put down on what happens if iV flips town.



and never mind, were lynching you tomorrow., your fucking scum as shit to want to kil lpeopel for playing bad instead of being scum.

i dont like havint to vote to save my life, but i know im town and im not 100% that stim isnt town.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 14 2013 01:00 GMT
#1471
gg, im going to say this before i get lynched



IV IS FUCKING TOWN AS FUCKING FUCK FUCK FUCK.


LYNCH THE FUCKING SHIT OUT OF HIM NOW!!!!!!


read his filter 100x until you see what i saw. unfortunately im too late to write a case.


i want town to win. even if i do die. so kill him. DO IT NOW
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 14 2013 01:00 GMT
#1472
EBWOP:scum. hes scum
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 14 2013 01:01 GMT
#1474
bold onegu. do it fast.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 14 2013 01:11 GMT
#1480
well played all, im sorry about my dissapearing for the last few hours before the lynch, got hooked on likke 4 episodes of Death Note in a row and totally forgot about this. definately worth xD


anyway gg yall <3 super fun, totally doing more of these
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 16 2013 04:30 GMT
#1591
Ggs. i fucking had it yesterday. but i got lynched in a clusterfuck. ggs all. super fun for my first game.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 16 2013 04:47 GMT
#1595
Im still trying to comprehend how i was lynched. i think 90% of it is my stupid times to watch 3 episodes of death note in a row. but yeah. Why didnt we lynch onegu instead of me?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 16 2013 05:33 GMT
#1601
So how long until the next game?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 16 2013 05:46 GMT
#1603
Kk. I have a question. is there a single thing i could do to stop me from getting lynched? like i feel like i did the best thing which was say kill onegu then iv. (mabye i switched the order at the end) like is that what you should do as town when your dead?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 16 2013 07:21 GMT
#1609
Jesus. thats some fucking great planning. so i never really had a big case on onegu. i just reealized everybody else was town. ofc i always thought iV was fucking with everybody and never got a true read on him.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 16 2013 21:31 GMT
#1634
On June 17 2013 01:20 LoneMeow wrote:
Xzavier, what was that with the weird vote switching in day 1? I couldn't figure that out even after seeing you flip town.

Firere345, were you actually busy IRL or just lurking?

Overall it was fun, but it was a bit annoying that most of the useful day 2 discussion happened in the last hours before lynch, when I had already gone to bed. And way too much afking and modkills, of course. Oh and I kind of got shafted by being busy IRL for day 1 so I didn't get to post enough and had to decide on the vote in a hurry.


I was on a 15 min work break. i was doubting my case on gotard. what they said made sense. but i didnt hav time to read the firere case. and i didnt want to blindly sheep.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 17 2013 03:11 GMT
#1643
On June 17 2013 12:08 Onegu wrote:
Havent said it completely yet but thanks to the hosts, players and coaches, you did an amazing job and made enjoy myself a ton and lose alot of sleep.


all the same <3

it gave me something to mull over while bagging groceries/doing carts for 8 hours straight!
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 18 2013 14:55 GMT
#1656
On June 18 2013 18:51 Blazinghand wrote:
omg valve plz stop matching me with low elo ppl

mmr so bad


Then stick to playing ranked, you get less feeders and instalockers.
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