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On June 06 2013 21:53 Skanjab1s wrote: My posts purpose is to lynch scum, something I haven't seen from you. You criticize me for my post yet it gives you a townread on me? Rather contradictory. Umasi comes across as a townie to me, albeit one that was gotten to by ivloski. Pedit: I'm not really new. IvLosK! and Umasi are the only players whose alignment you have an opinion on? | ||
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fferyllt
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"Make believe I have a mental handicap because I don't really see how Umasi's behavior was anti-town." Or this to xZAv "Now that I've ruffled your feathers" what ruffled feathers? Yavanna you agreed with xZav in that post. And yet with assurances that you'll be plenty abrasive when the time comes. On June 06 2013 16:23 Yavanna wrote: Shit I'm sorry...? Should I put on my bitch face? I mean there's like 3 people talking here. When someone comes into the thread that I should jump on I will, but I haven't seen anything to make me do so yet. I'm really not so nice all the time but those of you who I'm conversing with are townie as fuck imo. Should I pull an iV and attack you just for shits? On June 06 2013 16:30 Yavanna wrote: Ermahgerd...I can feel the Vlosk coming!! RAAAAGGGGEEE!! No but in all seriousness, I just don't see the point in being an asshole unless its warranted. When I think someone is doing something scummy I'll jump all over their ass and not feel bad about it in the least. I'm not seeing any sign of this iron fist in the velvet glove. Yavanna is working for minor clarifications from her town reads, mostly, which isn't such a great place to put a lot of effort. | ||
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On June 06 2013 23:33 iVLosK! wrote: So I'm bad because I'm abrasive Didn't we already have this discussion? and Yavanna is bad for the opposite reason? It's not just the sweetness and light, it's who she engages with to ask questions vs who she makes 3rd perosn observations about. i.e., interacting directly with town reads asking questions that aren't likely to refine those reads but look engaged. I have her pretty solidly null atm. this could be all personality and style, esp if she's new to mafia. | ||
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United States317 Posts
On June 06 2013 23:15 Onegu wrote: Ok 2 things the first he kept the iV thing going on alot lomger than it needed to be. Secomd and the thing that made me feel the most was he would make a statement and when the majority had different ideals he would conform to them. This is what feels like he is scum. These are both good observations. "Thinking what I'm thinking" isn't considered a reliable town tell but it seldom steers me wrong. | ||
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fferyllt
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He mentions that this is his first game when he /in'd. His first several posts have an enthusiastic and confused newb feel. As iL mentioned (I'm not writing your name out any more because I'm lazy) his trajectory on and off his first vote was confusing. It looked like a random vote, and I don't understand why he decided to remove it so quickly unless maybe it was because nobody else was voting randomly...in which case, hmm. Maybe natural town herd movement. Maybe trying to fit in. He takes an almost immediate dislike to iL. At the time, I thought those first two votes on iL looked like newb townish reactions, and was looking forward to seeing who would go next because the next vote would have looked scummy to me. But, since iL was actually pressuring people to join that wagon, so much for that. His vote on iL and subsequent unvote, though are followy (of xZav). And I kinda disliked that removing the vote was not really due to reluctantly deciding IL is town, but because he didn't think the lynch was viable. The amount of aggravation over the iL's play seems over the top, too, but...playstyle. Sometimes players just irritate someone and they can't get past it. If so...then get past it. Make sure your reasons for thinking someone is scummy aren't too colored by dislike or annoyance. Posts like this one don't really strike me as all that newbish, though On June 06 2013 13:32 Umasi wrote: It may be all you need, but think about what the town needs, and explain why this entire exchange has furthered our understanding of the current game. Why are you responding the way you are, if I think it is apparently pro-mafia? You don't want a townie thinking what you're doing is pro-mafia. If you think I'm mafia, say so, and I'll happily respond. Don't just sit there and absolve yourself using the logic of "I am town" and "I said I'd stick to my vote, and was explaining why" Because the logic of "I am town" does not WORK if you don't play in a protown way, and saying "I'd stick to my vote, and was explaining why" is stupid if you aren't fucking explaining why. Telling us that you're going to vote what you think is the correct vote is fine, but the entire excuse reads as just that to me. An excuse. Re you readslist, one thing that struck me as odd was that you needed more posts from me. I wasn't the most prolific poster of the crowd last night, but I had made several posts by then, and had taken a strong stance on iV's reaction-gathering as well as the reactions. Was there something specific you thought I'd comment on around that time? Basically, Umasi, your reactions mostly seem town-motivated, but it's a strange mix of giving up too quickly on some things and holding on rather long on others, which makes me a little uneasy. *I'm mentioning the page 1 player links because I didn't figure it out for myself in my previous game here. | ||
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On June 07 2013 02:25 Gotard wrote: After reading everything twice I've came with conclusion that some of you are far from being newbies like me (or you are just really good at pretending which is even worse if you are aren't townies T_T). All in all after some hardcore analysis (aka reading) I sadly do know nothing  . Xzavier seemed to be a scum (after following Umasi's accusations) but then he had some awesome pro-town posts. What to do!? What to do!? Ask questions. Make observations. And when you are ready, use your vote. | ||
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On June 07 2013 02:34 Yavanna wrote: At the time I asked these questions, the only people in thread responding were people I’ve placed town reads on. I ask for clarification because I am generally interested in what some people find as scum play. I want to make sure the town is all on the same page. Is that not a good mentality to have? Part of playing this game, as far as I can understand, is making sure the town is all on the same page so that we can collectively lynch mafia. How do I do this without asking questions? You can ask questions of someone who's not currently posting. It's a little early for town to be finding a single page to be on. Right now, it's good for people to be questing and poking at what's been posted and making angry noises about lurkers. Do you have someone who is a high priority to get sorted? | ||
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On June 06 2013 15:08 Onegu wrote: I think it is apperant that ivlosk is town at this point. I dont uderstand why you keep saying he is scum. I also dont get why making a list of observations is useful at this point when over half of the people havent posted yet. When you made this post, what made you think it was apparent that iV was town? | ||
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On June 06 2013 15:15 LoneMeow wrote: Why? Make a case if you have a good read. I'm tempted to disagree though. Yes, iVLosK! is somewhat abrasive and irritating with his attitude, but that's not really alignment indicative. Tempted. What is your read on iV? | ||
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On June 07 2013 13:55 iVLosK! wrote: If I could lynch 3 people in order right now: Gotard Umasi That guy whose name is like frefre or something. I dunno. I've read through the latest posts, and am now coming back to reply to stuff. I disagree on Umasi. He's looking so paranoid he almost has to be town. Also, he's not avoiding suspicions - he wants them on the table so he can deal with them and figure out what he's doing wrong. There is a player who hasn't looked paranoid at all, though. And that in a newb sets off a few alarms. I'd like to know if you think someone fits that description or if I'm making mountains from molehills. | ||
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I don't want to waste the rest of the game day. | ||
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On June 07 2013 15:28 Onegu wrote: I think he has to be paranoid at this point more than one person has thought him scum. I am thinking gotard may be town, I am not convinced yet. Why does being paranoid point you toward town? Town is the uninformed majority, infiltrated by an informed and hostile minority. Even in seasoned players paranoia can rear its head. In people new to the game it's almost a definitive characteristic. When a newb town player comes under suspicion it definitely kicks up the paranoia level. | ||
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On June 07 2013 15:37 Xzavier wrote: Okay, if gotard is town. then why isnt he doing anything to benefit the town? why doesnt he create content? He was jumped on from his first post and every new post just made matters worse. That's not an environment conducive to thoughtful content. I want to see what he has to say when he comes back to the thread. He obviously cared enough about the game to log in and survey the damage at 5-something am his time. That's not alignment indicative, but it is a level of engagement even if the content is sparse. | ||
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On June 07 2013 16:40 Onegu wrote: Ebwop Say who or what you are thinking dont just fish for ideas. The person I am thinking about is Yavannah. Her posts did get better after I pushed her a little yesterday. As I was driving home last night and thinking about the game I was trying to figure out what it is about her play that still bothers me. And I realized it was the contrast with some of the other players who said they are new to the game. She seems so sure of her town reads. | ||
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On June 07 2013 22:16 Onegu wrote: I dont really have that feeling at this point. Has she said this is her first game? So far people have had some very strong reads and I dont think that makes you scummy. Why would scum want to say strong reads at this point when just sheeping is a better way of hideing. She did say this is her first game. | ||
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