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LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
June 10 2013 07:03 GMT
#912
This level of activity (or rather the lack of it) is really bad. We've managed ~5 pages in half of day 2 compared to 30+ pages in day 1.

Onegu, are you around? Do you want to explain your suspicion on Yavanna a bit more? I'm somewhat suspicious of her too, but her last post gives me a strong contradictory read:

On June 07 2013 05:39 Yavanna wrote:
If the day ended now, I’d be down with lynching him or Firere. I want to hear what both of them have to say to the accusations against them though, specifically the blue thing (Umasi)


This happens right as the Gotard wagon starts, I don't think scum would be ready to lynch one of their own that early, especially since Firere345 wasn't really under heavy suspicion at that point and Gotard would've been an easy target.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
June 10 2013 07:08 GMT
#913
Also StiMaDDict needs to do more than just tunnel me, otherwise he's going to be a huge problem if/when I get mislynched. Who's your second best scum read? What about best town read?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
June 10 2013 07:51 GMT
#916
On June 10 2013 16:25 Onegu wrote:
Town: iVlosk and Xzavier


I have some questions about xzavier but I still feel town at this point.


I can agree about iVLosK! looking very town at the moment.

Not so sure about Xzavier though, his activity early on seemed very pro-town but he was somewhat reluctant about Firere345 and the vote switches were just plain weird, there's no explanation on why he switched to Firere345 for a moment, instead he talks about Umasi in that post.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
June 10 2013 08:33 GMT
#918
On June 10 2013 17:25 Onegu wrote:
I dont think think firere was bussed and the final vote on him was later and he could have been saved. Meaning if Yavanna is scum then most likely the third scum was on gotard. If Yavanna isnt scum then I am not sure I dont think all scum would put thier vote on gotard as that makes it eaiser to look there and finish them off.


I wouldn't completely count out Firere345 being bussed, if his inactivity was because of actual IRL business and not just intentional lurking. Town cred could easily be worth getting rid of useless team member. Still, it would be somewhat ballsy move on day 1 and this is a newbie game... Not sure what to make of that.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
June 10 2013 13:01 GMT
#925
We really need more activity here or scum will get an easy win. So let's talk about lynches. Who are your top reads right now, iVLosK!?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
June 10 2013 14:43 GMT
#933
On June 10 2013 23:30 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 22:01 LoneMeow wrote:
We really need more activity here or scum will get an easy win. So let's talk about lynches. Who are your top reads right now, iVLosK!?


Easy win for scum? We day 1 lynched scum in a noob game... if anything they are the ones feeling the pressure. And saying we need more activity coming from you is quite peculiar. Don't say we need more activity... MAKE ACTIVITY


If you look at the posts, I've been one of the most active posters in the last 10 hours or so, but it's not useful unless I can get others to talk too.

On June 10 2013 23:30 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Lone you were looking at StiMaDDict as a possible scum target but barely explained why.


Mostly his bringing a new case so close to lynch deadline with two wagons is not very towny. It was practically impossible for me to get lynched at that point, so the case was mostly just disruptive and could have helped Firere345 avoid getting lynched if a few votes had changed from him to me. I also massively dislike him not participating in almost any other discussion beside tunneling me, because that makes him a huge liability for the rest of the game if I get mislynched.

I'm really not so sure about StiMaDDict anymore, though, I'm more tempted to think one of Umasi/Xzavier is a better candidate. Umasi has been relatively noncommittal and sheeping a lot for the whole game, while Xzavier's actions since the Firere345 lynch have been almost non-existent which is very suspicious given how he was one of the driving forces for discussion during day 1. The problem here is, I think only one of them is scum but I can't tell which.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
June 10 2013 14:46 GMT
#934
On June 10 2013 23:12 fferyllt wrote:
Do you think the cases posted about you are bad?


I posted a pretty large rebuttal to StiMaDDict's case. I especially dislike how he didn't bother to update the Firere345/Gotard part of it, even though none of that is anything like valid after Firere345 flipped red. I do admit that I was afk a lot during day 1 and that made the few posts I did manage to write look somewhat worse than they could have been, so the case isn't completely without merit.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
June 10 2013 15:04 GMT
#938
On June 10 2013 23:57 Spicydinosaur wrote:
What do you think of Stim's call to vig shoot you night 1? Doesn't feel like scum play, but that of a tunneling townie.


That's probably the most townie thing he's done so far, yes. Although I don't consider it very smart move even as such.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
June 10 2013 15:08 GMT
#939
On June 10 2013 23:55 fferyllt wrote:
Last night, reading your convo with Onegu I read a buddying-up vibe to your posts. I'll have to fliter-dive again to confirm this, but my sense is that you have not initiated many interactions other than with Onegu.


He was about the only one around, so I could hardly initiate interactions with anyone else :/

He's also on my list of suspicious people, though not at the top at the moment. I really didn't like his vote on day 1 being outside the wagons, that's somewhat counterproductive for town.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
June 10 2013 15:30 GMT
#942
On June 11 2013 00:19 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 00:08 LoneMeow wrote:
On June 10 2013 23:55 fferyllt wrote:
Last night, reading your convo with Onegu I read a buddying-up vibe to your posts. I'll have to fliter-dive again to confirm this, but my sense is that you have not initiated many interactions other than with Onegu.


He was about the only one around, so I could hardly initiate interactions with anyone else :/

He's also on my list of suspicious people, though not at the top at the moment. I really didn't like his vote on day 1 being outside the wagons, that's somewhat counterproductive for town.


Having a vote outside of the wagons is not in and of itself indicative of alignment. Wouldn't you be more suspicious of him if he switched votes at the end to someone else? I've voted outside of the wagons because I didn't believe in them in previous games.


He never explained why he didn't believe in the wagons, that makes voting outside look bad to me. In fact, reading through what he said I notice that he hardly commented on Firere345 at all - it looks pretty bad to be honest.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
June 10 2013 20:11 GMT
#973
On June 11 2013 03:49 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Most reasons are summed up by others but I feel to add/ explain a few others. His D1 excuses for not posting give me a similar scum feel like firere. Very spotting posting coupled with excuses. Only after there is a lot of suspicion on him does he post a lot more. His flip to Gotard still doesnt sit well with me and I was not satisfied with his answer. Furthermore his N1/D2 postings have been mostly damage control on his D1 activity. He has no scum reads atm and the only one he had real suspicions for was Stim. The case against Stim was rather weak and wrong in many instances. Though now he is unsure of Stim so he's back to 0 with scum reads.


I love how you selectively ignore parts of my posts.

On June 10 2013 23:43 LoneMeow wrote:
I'm really not so sure about StiMaDDict anymore, though, I'm more tempted to think one of Umasi/Xzavier is a better candidate. Umasi has been relatively noncommittal and sheeping a lot for the whole game, while Xzavier's actions since the Firere345 lynch have been almost non-existent which is very suspicious given how he was one of the driving forces for discussion during day 1. The problem here is, I think only one of them is scum but I can't tell which.


Still can't really tell which, though if I had to choose I'd pick Umasi. Both being scum is also possible but I don't consider that super likely right now.

##Vote: Umasi
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
June 16 2013 16:20 GMT
#1632
Xzavier, what was that with the weird vote switching in day 1? I couldn't figure that out even after seeing you flip town.

Firere345, were you actually busy IRL or just lurking?

Overall it was fun, but it was a bit annoying that most of the useful day 2 discussion happened in the last hours before lynch, when I had already gone to bed. And way too much afking and modkills, of course. Oh and I kind of got shafted by being busy IRL for day 1 so I didn't get to post enough and had to decide on the vote in a hurry.
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