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Properly fueled with the power of a thousand suns (aka plains) While I'm at it, /replacement | ||
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and the hands are acutally, you know, blazing | ||
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I just was like "oh yeah another thread that's as full of irrelevant bs as Personality*, that gotta be FUN" so I just HAD to replace in. Now I shall read my role PM. Or shall I? I guess I shall, but I'm not decided yet! | ||
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That was easy. | ||
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Now I'll bus my teammates for towncred ##Vote: stutters | ||
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A lot of those were yours so I can't toss out an alignment either way. | ||
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"Usual" hi You know I really want you dead every game too since your voice grates my ears, so I'mma be over here and try that real quick. ##Unvote ##Vote marv Cool townclaim btw. | ||
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On May 18 2013 07:46 yamato77 wrote: Why are all of you so scum So you think you are town It could be worthwhile to investigate this possibility. | ||
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On May 18 2013 07:46 marvellosity wrote: yeah, i know you're a cunt, and i know you think i'm a cunt. yet in personality 2, you got over your feelings and somehow protected me when we were both town. so your explanation is insufficient. try again. Yeah but it also taught me to not protect you ever again. Now this is as pointless as the previous shitfest(s), so I'mma get to reading I s'ppose | ||
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On May 18 2013 07:51 marvellosity wrote: no, that's COMPLETELY irrelevant as to whether i'm town or mafia. that's me playing badly or well. i'm 14-2 as town recently, and personality was one of that 2. please come up with an actual reason i'm mafia. thank you. Okay, how about this. Last time I trolled on entering the thread you knew it was not alignment indicative. Of anyone, and not of me. You were town. This time it is?!?!? Curious. Mafia need to make themself dumber than they are because they need to lynch people for bad reasons. And that after you claimed Ruler of the World, King of the Universe. iiiii dunnooooooo | ||
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The ones where he measures his dick size and tries really hard to compare them. | ||
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On May 18 2013 07:56 marvellosity wrote: dandel does not "troll as either alignment" lies | ||
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On May 18 2013 08:00 marvellosity wrote: i'm obviously town. dandel is obviously trying to antaogonise me despite knowing how to read me. there's nothing else to say. Yeah and I have never misread you oh wait You keep riding that i read you correctly once, and suddenly im a marv-solving mafia machine. If it wasn't a subtle flattery I'd almost count that as a misrepresentation. I also know that you think i suck and am a bad player so I don't see where you're coming from at all here. | ||
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On May 18 2013 08:06 iamperfection wrote: dandel do you have an opinion on anyone besides marv? you voted stutters which is whatever but any comments on anyone else? Soon™ | ||
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On May 18 2013 08:11 marvellosity wrote: because you have at least a basic understanding of how to read me, as witnessed in personality when you read me as town early, yet you antaogonise me here. thanks. I still fail to see what that has to do with my alignment. If you want though, I can dig up the games where I misread your townplay as scumplay, I think there should be around two of those. I wasn't scum in them either. I don't like using that since it makes me sound dumb even though I'm a really smart chap, but there you go. Now tell me since when do you think I'm actually good enough at this game that the accuracy of my reads reflects on my alignment, because I know that you don't actually think I'm good enough at this game for that to hold water. And that's a serious jump in mentality, and I have not seen a single reason for it to occur. | ||
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On May 18 2013 08:19 marvellosity wrote: please find those games, that would be appreciated. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=389088 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256 | ||
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On May 18 2013 08:23 marvellosity wrote: when did you find me scum in red team? i don't remember that at all. magic i'm discarding because you were with acro, but if you genuininly thought so in red team, that kinda makes a difference. Eh, early on i think. Probably. I remember I drew a picture about it. | ||
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On May 18 2013 08:40 Blazinghand wrote: if he's a kushm4sta, then my case on him isn't valid. I'll go dive some meta then. If you just want to make him look like a good lynch, look at MtG, that was his towniest game I've seen so far. If you want to actually look at meta, look at other games too. So, "literally always" is technically incorrect, but so far I've seen nothing in this game stutters hasn't done before. I don't really see the point in comparing meta when he hasn't been scum so far, I tend to get burned on meta arguments that say "he's not doing shit he does as town". I mean, that ain't stopping me, but still. JJD looks like a decent lynch. I'd sheep that. | ||
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Just cause no starsenses? Or can you actually read him | ||
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sad day iamp totally confirmed town because vayne was all the rage a few pages back, but he seems to actually believe in what he says (this is consistent with a dude that builds bt and qss as a core, lol), so I dunno, I feel like he would care more about how he looks and adapt (to tl) as scum I have like nothing to base this on, but I mean, the dude called somebody else a newbie when he just finished playing in an actual newbie game days ago. I find not giving a fuck generally a townie thing to do. I'm fine with waiting for whatever nightaction information the dude thinks he needs to actually play the game for now. ( I still have no idea what he's doing though ) I really like how blazing reacted to vayne, and I pretty much agree with this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410972¤tpage=17#330 Although I am hesitant about the shooting part, but I can't and won't tell you why! Best reasoning NA. I'm mainly interested in lynching jjd and gk atm. What has been said about jdd has been said, and he hasn't said anything. GK because his case on stutters (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410972¤tpage=16#320) is based on a serious misrepresentation of stutters' post, trying to point out a inconsistency in stutters posting that was not actually one. (stutters pointed out he's never been scum, gk somehow turned that into an inconsistency regarding meta) I don't think stutters responded yet and I usually prefer people doing that before i butt in, but I am a realist and it's stutters, so nope. In total, it just looks way too much like an "easy" case scum loves to do on an inactive/bad (or both!) townie and it gives me the jeebers. Rest is variying shades of null + Show Spoiler + although I'd like to jot down that if gk is mafia, then solstice is town. Just so I remember this if (/when? :O ) gk flips. Feel free to ignore cuz associations, nobody yet flipped, etcetc~ aaaaand that should be about it. Okay, going to sleep. Toodles. | ||
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On May 18 2013 09:52 Spicydinosaur wrote: you are one of the more active players and one of the first i filtered. As for the shitfests, I gave my 2 cents on the vayne issue. I knew how he played from our previous game and I saw no reason to jump on the band wagon. As for the marvellosity/ Dandel Ion cluster fuck, I felt it was best I stay clear of it. It turned into some kind of argument of meta gaming that I was unfamiliar with. A lot of guys in here have played dozens of games together and can do the meta argument. Dandel started off by just spewing spam but then it seemed he was doing it for a reason. Then the whole thread seemed to be jumping from one person to another. No reason to jump into a shitfest if I have nothing to add, would be just spam. why did you feel that? | ||
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On May 18 2013 19:18 marvellosity wrote: One other thing - something I don't like that both WoS and JarJar are doing is complaining about thread activity. That riles me quite a bit. Especially with WoS, given how posty he usually is himself. This actually interesting, since they do it only 10 minutes apart from each other. I think if they were both scum, they'd be more self-conscious about things like that and, if not not say it at all (since it sounds scummy as hell), at least space it out a little? That's a scumtell on JJD mainly, I'd say. He's hinding his scummery behind the posts of somebody else. He also made it sound like he's not complaining when he totally was complaining. On May 18 2013 17:29 DarthPunk wrote: Marv doesn't look good. But I tunnelled him the last two times I played with him and was wrong so I am trying to be restrained this time. I think I made a post which said marv didn't look good. He said he wanted to lynch me for no reason, and hasn't mentioned it since. Ah fuck it. One sec. I didn't like the fact he tried to start like 4 wagons with no explanation at all in the space of like 20 min. 1 min later after Iamp says i look townie 4min later He unvotes (never votes in voting thread) blazing like 7 min later Votes JJD cause ???? This is actually how you townread marv..... | ||
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On May 18 2013 18:14 yamato77 wrote: Because he's tried harder this game to make his reads than you have? I think anyone reading the thread can see GK is obviously putting in effort. I misremembered gigyas' efforts in LXI. After I died, I looked at his filter and realized he really wasn't trying all that hard. It was all a product of a terrible tunnel I was in. [flaming] Actually, no. I see him trying to find out which lurker he can push. Explain your townread better. | ||
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I require you to find a game where grush "fakeclaims" starsenses as scum. Until then, I'm not lynching him. | ||
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On May 18 2013 20:59 DarthPunk wrote: I've done more than my share by diving every game of his for the past 10 months. The way he claimed star senses this game is clearly different. I remember him only claiming it after being under pressure before. And at the end of the day, it's still a meta argument on things that are different than his usual townplay, not things that are like his usual scumplay. These are often bad and wrong arguments. Do you actually think he's scum, or do you just want to policy-lynch him? | ||
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I thought it was funny (both) | ||
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On May 18 2013 21:09 DarthPunk wrote: His last scum game was ages ago and before he started using STARSENSES every game. so there is no scum meta to compare to. And the difference between his starsenses claims are pretty clear if you read my post or the filters I linked. Regardless WoS is the leading wagon atm what are your opinions of him? My point exactly. I could get behind a Wave lynch. I would have expected him to do something townie by now. | ||
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On May 18 2013 22:50 iamperfection wrote: it would be weird for you as scum(especially if bh is town) to attack one of the few players in this game that has the potential to have thread control. That is all I'm saying. Last time I saw that argument for a townread, it was dead wrong. (hapa townreading me in british 2 for troll-tunneling DrH) | ||
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just so we're on one page here. | ||
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On May 18 2013 23:48 WaveofShadow wrote: I haven't yet this game obviously, hence the people who think I'm scum. Don't you worry your pretty head dandel. So why are you angry people read you scum if you know you haven't shown your incredible greenness and town love. And that's what I'm saying about you FYI. You haven't let your kermit shine through. On May 18 2013 23:48 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh by the way, what was the point of that shitfest with marv a while back aside from just completely fucking with the thread? Wait, I need more reason than that? | ||
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Other people stay out plz, this is private: + Show Spoiler + | ||
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omg vote iamp | ||
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On May 19 2013 00:04 grush57 wrote: DP you're pickin and choosing what I said. If I ever claim STARSENSES I will be town. NO MATTER WAHT. AND I DID OKAY? heres some more for ya babe  STARSENSES STARSENSES STARSENSES STARSENSES STARSENSES holy shit that's a lot of townieness ahhh it's overwhelming all the town | ||
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On May 19 2013 00:34 Spicydinosaur wrote: Yeah I read the post, and didnt really sway me. His posts in this game haven;t been informative at all which is the criteria I determine if someone is town. You'll never be able to read grush then, just fyi. | ||
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On May 19 2013 00:53 WaveofShadow wrote: Grush doesn't do anything. Like, ever. This is so stupid that we're still talking about this. Dandel, who is scum? I'm at gk, jjd, maybe you atm. | ||
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On May 19 2013 18:31 yamato77 wrote: Looking at Dandel, and most of his filter is useless shit. you just don't understand my genius. On May 19 2013 18:31 yamato77 wrote: It's worth noting that Dandel is not breaking any new ground here. Most of his reads, especially the scum ones, seem in line with thread sentiment. It's also worth noting that he really fails to explain his suspicion of WoS or JJD beyond one or two sentences. half true, although I gotta add that I was like OG gk scumcaller and thread sentiment fell in line with me in regard to him. so not really. wos i wasn't super suspicious of (just lack of towniness) and jjd, there's not been more to say. On May 19 2013 18:31 yamato77 wrote: His suspicion of GK is the most fleshed out, but while he seems to like that lynch, I think he is more preoccupied with following the lynches led by town than actually finding mafia on his own. I know town Dandel to be particularly headstrong, and I do not feel that sheeping is a common tactic in his scum hunting repertoire. These sentences are mutually exclusive. If you really think that, you don't know me. On May 19 2013 18:31 yamato77 wrote: It makes me wonder why Cora, a person who was one of the last to sign up and one who seemed interested, replaced out. Did Cora not want to play mafia, perhaps? lol ok | ||
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On May 19 2013 20:07 marvellosity wrote: Hi Dandel. You all caught up? no that comes now, just saw yam's post | ||
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On May 19 2013 05:45 marvellosity wrote: The weirdest thing about Dandel that I noticed is when he gave a bunch of names he could lynch, sputnik wasn't one of them, when it seemed he would fit on the list he made. Becaue 1) I find him mildly amusing 2) he's hyper-lurking which should be dealt with by vigshootings/host KP On May 19 2013 06:16 VayneAuthority wrote: If im going to get berated every game I play in im obviously going to change my policy. Nobody likes no lynch here. This stood out as really weird to me after On May 18 2013 06:40 VayneAuthority wrote: Luckily I want to be good at mafia and not TL mafia so frankly im not too interested. I play by my own rules. It get a bit more explained later, but I still don't really understand why Intermission where rayn flips his shit about a list post lol On May 19 2013 11:09 DarthPunk wrote: This is something I just remembered. How many of you have replaced into a game before? I have several times and every single time I have recieved my role PM along with permission to start posting in the thread. I find it hard to believe Dandel did not read his role PM cause he was replacing in. You really wanna do this? Really? I can do this. Just give the word. I found it weird people were backing off jjd for no good reason/while keeping him in their "scum/would lynch" pile, so, trying to make sense of shit I decided to do a jjd counter! JJD Counter: Spicy voting him and confusing his name with WoS solstice defending him BH saying he would lynch jjd ^DP trying to lynch BH for that everyone else deflecting on BH GK saying he would like to lynch jjd, yet votes BH in accordance with ^ JJD COUNTER DISCONTINUED BECAUSE GK CLAIMED SCUM GG ##Unvote ##Vote Goodkarma On May 19 2013 13:47 s0Lstice wrote: we are many hours away from lynch, and the GK wagon just started...so scum GK cracks and lies about not checking his role PM? What is the motivation? I think he legit is tired of Day 1 pressure and posted out of complete frustration. I'm reading his most recent games right now, and I can see it. If it's true, then it's just a policy lynch. He is here and trying, so as policy lynches go it would be a peculiar one. I don't really love it. If you're actually tired of day1 pressure, the correct response is not to make your day1 as unreadable as possible. This excuse makes no sense at all. On May 19 2013 13:50 DarthPunk wrote: I really don't like this Goodkarma wagon. Like every single person in the game has expressed an interest in a good karma lynch. So what this is just wifom. Maybe the mafia team is really bad and has no thread influence. Maybe they're all bussing. In which case I feel obligated to help. Here's the kicker, though: On May 19 2013 20:18 goodkarma wrote: In summary: ObvTown: GK [-rest of the list-] This proves he has actually read his role PM. Because if he didn't, he wouldn't even think about calling himself town, since he wouldn't know. This is a genuine slip GG | ||
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If so then I'm in favor of a jjd lynch. | ||
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On May 19 2013 23:58 DarthPunk wrote: OK. Go read his last game as blue, Read this game, and then realise he has played EXACTLY THIS WAY AS TOWN. I don't get why you are pushing this so hard. Why would he not play exactly the same as scum too? It's not like it's hard footsteps to follow, eh? On May 19 2013 23:57 iamperfection wrote: Also you guys use meta way to much | ||
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On May 20 2013 06:50 yamato77 wrote: There is a distinct lack of noting how scum Dandel is at the moment. fk da h8ers | ||
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On May 20 2013 06:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: You mean DI? I know why, because GK is scum. same as above | ||
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On May 20 2013 23:58 iamperfection wrote: why were you more interested in vote counts then you were this game shut up I'm trying to lurk | ||
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On May 21 2013 00:05 Spicydinosaur wrote: I'll re ask my question that got buried before the BH slip. Dandel if you thought that sputnik should be vig shot and not lynched then why vote at the last second for the lynch? consolidation he still was a better vig shot than lynch | ||
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you are american, how dare you say this every vote counts for FREEDOM | ||
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Basically, that assumes that either a SK shot iamp, or he's getting bussed all the way. Otherwise it just makes no sense. | ||
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On May 21 2013 06:58 VayneAuthority wrote: Dandel ion: Went through DL first and found this post. iamp confirmed town, iamp died tonight. Wanted to lynch JJD and gk. If we ever lynch DL and he shows up mafia, GK/JJD town and marv also confirmed town in my opinion. If we lynch DL and im wrong and he shows up town, then unfortunately this post isnt as useful. Suspicious post that should be taken into account either way. He soft defends Grush and advocates a lynch on WoS, also worth taking into account. thats pretty much the only substance in his filter to go off of, still like this lynch based off what he has said and crossing it with the night killings onto my next suspect I'm sorry i was able to read the easiest-to-read player since the dawn of mafia and mafia usually wifom their reads at least a tiny bit, you basically assume I wouldn't bus as scum, and I wouldn't give townreads to scumbuddies. Which makes no sense because I kinda have to do one of these else id run out of people. | ||
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although, i guess as was pointed out, it's technically possible he was the shot all along, albeit unlikely, seeing as Hapa is not on the player list | ||
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I just did it ninja. | ||
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I think you know where I'm going here. | ||
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On May 24 2013 06:07 marvellosity wrote: Killing Dandel may be as good as mafia at this stage, not sure. He should have been shooting for mafia but he's just acting as mafia's 2nd KP for no reason that I can discern. Cuz now I can say "if you lynch me and mafia actually has 4 members and not 3 you automatically lose the game" So unless you guys wanna take that risk.... | ||
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And will probably get roleblocked. Actually not much of a chance of me shooting townies. | ||
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srs question | ||
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It means exactly what it sounds like. | ||
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role PM style. | ||
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Hey on that note, you could also not lynch me. hows that sound. | ||
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On May 24 2013 06:28 marvellosity wrote: And if it was 3 mafia, then if we lynched mafia today, it would be 6-2-1 then the SK would be shooting at town anyways Except I wouldn't know if that was the case anyways so I actually do still need to shoot mafia, but nice try I'll give you a 3/10 | ||
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On May 24 2013 06:39 marvellosity wrote: the fact you don't know yourself makes your own plan all the more stupid Considering I would have been lynched anyways, I don't see how it is bad. I do what I can, because I must. | ||
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the dandel shoots yamato who deserves to die for his crimes: [what happens now] No matter what, my chances are still better with 2) So I was doing 2) | ||
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Yeah I'm actually a town SK. So, about that vat of acid.... | ||
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If you've got 4 we should be able to do it cuz we're 5 total then. think about it! | ||
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Just sayin' | ||
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Sue me for not caring about town when I'm not town :///// | ||
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Also lynching me is really not your best move. But I see you are content to ignore the mighty spears of logic just because you dislike my play or whatever. | ||
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But you prefer not to search and find mafia while having a 50:50 chance to outright lose the game to boot. Meh, it's your town. Do what you want with it. | ||
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On May 24 2013 09:10 marvellosity wrote: Try to disprove it if it's wrong. Here's a clue - you can't. All I see is "I don't care if I could autolose the game I need CONTROL! CONTROOOOOOOL" | ||
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On May 24 2013 09:13 marvellosity wrote: I see. So you can't disprove the airtight argument that for your own wincon you need to shoot town tomorrow to have a chance at a win/draw. Good stuff dandel. Let's see if you can disprove losing the game. | ||
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I ain't no fish. | ||
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I didn't. Which sets up a decent narrative for the scumteam actually being really dumb and bad. EVER THINK ABOUT THAT? | ||
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Obvious joke is obvious. If they're 4 they win anyways..... duh. Tho it's a good idea, maybe I SHOULD just say who the JK is. Just to fuck town over some more. | ||
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They can be roleblocked though. Which means that for me to operate optimally I'll have to decide whether to aim my shots 100% at either town or at mafia, thus forcing either JK or scum RB to camp me every night. Then I'll float around in the limbo. At least that's what I figured when I did the math n shit previously. So that's my plan if I don't get lynched, lel btw scum will never shoot me. wtf. that would be so dumb. So, you guys ready to lynch scum yet? | ||
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Well obviously shooting at townies is "easier" if you want it to be a 100% kinda deal :3333 | ||
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We only got one RB claim after n1. I don't think they roleblock-shot-stacked iamp, since his power was obviously not rb-able. So I suppose I have to shoot at town. Just to make sure. | ||
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disprove it. | ||
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That is me doing something | ||
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not 3 | ||
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Sooooooooo sorry. I meant to say I know who the SK is. Man, those little details. They always tend to slip your mind :3 :3 :3 :3 have fun this night :3 | ||
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On May 30 2013 06:05 Blazinghand wrote: i like that scum claimed SK more than once better be safe than sorry | ||
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On May 30 2013 06:12 Blazinghand wrote: The front of the short bus is still the front! I didn't say "stop" | ||
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On May 30 2013 06:14 HiroPro wrote: this game isn't really balanced. pff, smalltime. I've played in Paranoia. | ||
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On May 30 2013 06:22 WaveofShadow wrote: Yeah so was I tbh. i thought there might be survivor at some point but we were so far ahead it didn't matter. i didn't (expect a survivor that is) survivors don't get powers normally. his role was kinda meant to win. | ||
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On May 30 2013 06:24 marvellosity wrote: were the night actions actually bluesnipes? Were there crumbs? The hits on Spicy and Stutters were kinda surreal to me :p spicy didn't claim the roleblock. dunno about stutters wasnt around for that | ||
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I understand it's the new cool thing to make closed setups since every pleb makes them semi-open, but big changes like that should be divulged. Or make the game themed. imo. | ||
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On May 30 2013 06:29 iamperfection wrote: well that was stupid on their part you were a jib jub in the start no reason to shoot you. that's what i told them. inbetween my 5000 attempts to get wave to calm the fuck down. | ||
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Nobody talked about the flavor because it was quite clear that fakeclaims were going to be given out like candy (see the OP saying "oh by all means, claim whatever flavor you like!") and even if not it's still a terrible way to play the game. ADDITIONALLY, I think half the players (me included) didn't even know jack shit about the flavor in the first place. I don't see why you're sad nobody was a complete retard and tried to break a setup by flavor that you went out of your way to make unbreakable and didn't even hide that fact. If anything, that's like the one thing town did right. | ||
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On June 04 2013 05:15 Blazinghand wrote: The thing is, I can't really blame DP since he wasn't town. If DP was a townie, I 100% promise you'd be lording this over him! I'd be like "time to change your signature huehuehue" and so on. After the game though DP mentioned that yeah, he realized I was townie partway through D2 but as a survivor he'd be fine securing a 2nd mislynch, especially since I had explicitly mentioned him as a townread. Like, DP played quite well and I have no criticism of his play. If he thought I was scum and was playing for a town win, then yeah that was bad, but he was like "oh I guess I'll play for a scum win instead" partway through D2, and it was the right move. He even had me fooled! I'm not sure whether he or Vayne played the best game this game, but I might even say DP might have had the best individual performance. That's the same thing you admonish other players for, though. You had a townread for his first-cycle play and were not able to change that even when he played "for" mafia. This shit is not anybody's "fault", though, it's basic human behaviorism to just stick with what used to be your thoughts previously. And it obviously goes all possible ways. What I hope you learn from this game is that you absolutely cannot, ever, expect a player, no matter how "good" you think he is, to play objectively well. It's just bad thinking, wrong, and doesn't get you anywhere. Wave did the same mistake from the other direction, constantly worrying about marv suddenly figuring the game out (even after days of him not motioning even slightly to go anywhere near that direction) 99% of the times, it's not gonna happen. Don't rely on other players to play the game for you. Etc. | ||
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