On May 19 2013 07:01 yamato77 wrote:
I don't see anything in GK's filter that makes him scum.

Marv, you said you don't like a WoS lynch anymore, why?

he seems active and involved, and he doesn't look that different to any of his other games.

marvellosity

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May 18 2013 22:09 GMT

#815

I'm leaning scum on GK, purely because of the reason he made a really weak activity related meta read on reyn. That shit is nasty.

Your own words here "Wos' aggressiveness and decisiveness" - you think that's how a first-time mafia player would come across, when it's been pretty clear from past games he's shit-scared of rolling mafia?

marvellosity

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May 18 2013 22:18 GMT

#831

On May 19 2013 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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Okay, this guy claimed scum.
##Unvote;
##Vote: iamperfection

ggyo

this is spectacularly awful.

marvellosity

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May 18 2013 22:23 GMT

#838

On May 19 2013 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay, maybe you all are too retarded to see anything. when i flip town, kill iamp. kthxbye.

this attitude is completely unaccepatble.

you've called 4 or 5 players scum now. I think you've called more players scum than there are mafia.

If you're town, take a step back, and play the game properly.

I fucking LOVE to kill martyrs. You're no exception.

marvellosity

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May 18 2013 22:25 GMT

#842

On May 19 2013 07:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay, kill me, then kill iamp, you got a 1-1 trade.

Totally incorrect. Because I will kill you, and I will call iamp town.

Get a fucking grip.

marvellosity

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May 18 2013 22:27 GMT

#844

the point is this, rayn.

Dying does nothing to validate your reads. It just makes us think you were retarded as town, not as mafia.

marvellosity

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May 18 2013 22:31 GMT

#851

On May 19 2013 07:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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Yeah but i know what im doing, whether or not you believe it.

No, this isn't a reason. the only reason to martyr as town (there isn't actually a real reason) is to try to validate your reads.

I'm pointing out that you flipping does nothing to validate your reads.

So do something else.

marvellosity

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May 18 2013 22:38 GMT

#859

On May 19 2013 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp, yamato, marm; i am involved, i am voting for iamp atm. he is calling one gut town and one guy null for same reasons. that is bullshit imo.

and marv. do not talk about martyring, you are the king of it. end of discussion.

how am I the king of martyring? I've never martyred.

marvellosity

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May 19 2013 10:22 GMT

#1050

Just caught up on 8 pages and my mind's all blank because I'm still absolutely fuming about the GK role PM thing.

marvellosity

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May 19 2013 10:26 GMT

#1051

One thing I should say - I don't find reyn's iamp vote thing townie like most of you do. I think it could well be a show.

marvellosity

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May 19 2013 11:07 GMT

#1053

Hi Dandel. You all caught up?

marvellosity

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May 19 2013 11:21 GMT

#1057

goodkarma: I don't believe you answered me about my prodding about what you wrote about reyn's meta, would you mind doing so?

Also, regarding Spicy, how do you take into account the reads that iamp and I made on him? have you factored this in?

marvellosity

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May 19 2013 11:41 GMT

#1061

No, that isn't what I wrote, or what I meant at least. I meant he'd written out an analysis on s0lstice, and as such it would have been super easy for him to vote for s0lstice. Instead he changed his mind on his play and didn't vote for him.

As mafia, why bother including this change of heart? Seems an easy opportunity just to plop a vote down.

The thing with rayn is that he was super-active in his scum newbie game, which not only makes the meta weaker, but potentially flat-out incorrect.

Hopefully you'll be back before deadline.

marvellosity

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May 19 2013 12:06 GMT

#1064

Dandel, you missed a post from GK where he said he'd finally read his role PM. So slippo isn't a slippo.

marvellosity

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May 19 2013 12:09 GMT

#1066

for your reference, it's the last line in the post before his big post. quite well hidden I admit.

marvellosity

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May 19 2013 14:35 GMT

#1079

On May 19 2013 22:28 DarthPunk wrote:

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Well it is possible to verify if he is a mason. just tell him who to mason with and verify that. It IS possible he is a scum aligned mason. but i am not sure how likely that is in a mini. Either way i think it is best to wait and see when it comes to BH.

I would like to hear more from marv to be honest. Marv what do you think of blazinghand?

Blazing is pretty hard to read. Usually at some point as mafia he picks someone to tunnel and rides it until the cows come home. He did it in The Game, and he did very similar in Carnival. Here he's much more indecisive, which makes me think he's more likely to be town; for a player like Blazing especially it's pretty easy to tunnel someone, it's what he's good at. I also agree with you that a scum mason in a normal mini doesn't seem that likely. So for now, I'm gonna tentatively put him down as town. We can worry about him another day.

On May 19 2013 23:27 Spicydinosaur wrote:

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Your lurking is a huge problem and it seems you don't really care that people are upset that you are. Even if you have limited time, why not spend it filtering a player and getting an opinion on him off. This post feels like a delay of anything substantive. The best way you can defend yourself is to give me thoughts/opinions on the other players. vote is staying on you.

I pretty much agree with this.

GK's list post doesn't look too bad to me actually, the various gradients he has people in aren't massively far off where I have people, with one or two exceptions (of which Spicy is one).

Overall I have quite a lot of slightly town reads, and not enough scumreads. Which gives me more confidence in lynching into one of JJD/sputnik. It'd be pretty nice if either of them created some content in the next few hours really.