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marvellosity
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On May 21 2013 05:15 Stutters695 wrote: Marv, although you're an obvious prot target, can we still expect your opinion of BH because of the mason QT before the flip? Very little has gone on there. I'll probably just copy/paste it. | ||
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marvellosity
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On May 21 2013 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: I somehow thought that was going to be the case at the start of the night phase. And i still don't get why people assume it's better to mason a townread of yours instead of scum/null if you are town. Townies are more likely to share their opinion in thread, you can basically interact with them in thread. Scum are likely to slip up when they have to deal with the thread/scum QT/mason QT. As a general point, it's nice to be able to talk freely with someone you can trust. That's why I enjoy masoning anyways. | ||
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For some reason I have a recollection of being told we were allowed, but I can't remember how or by who, because I don't see it in DontFearThePoster's filter. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 05-20-2013 06:35 AM ET (US) Edit Delete yeah, i understand. go to bed and work with me later, i'll be around in the hours up to deadline. 25 BlazinghandPerson was signed in when posted 05-20-2013 06:33 AM ET (US) Come on man look I know you want to talk about other stuff, but the fact of the matter is, I can't NOT respond to DP's shit. It's not in my nature. 24 BlazinghandPerson was signed in when posted 05-20-2013 06:32 AM ET (US) Well, I should really get to bed. I'll be back several hours before deadline and vindicate myself with amazing cases, shooting down DP's arguments, and so on. 23 marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 05-20-2013 06:30 AM ET (US) Edit Delete yes but it still makes me giggle, which is all that matters. 22 BlazinghandPerson was signed in when posted 05-20-2013 06:29 AM ET (US) MISTAKES WERE MADE 21 marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 05-20-2013 06:27 AM ET (US) Edit Delete said mason case game  20 marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 05-20-2013 06:27 AM ET (US) Edit Delete you played in paranoia which was a mini and had 4 mafia 19 BlazinghandPerson was signed in when posted 05-20-2013 06:26 AM ET (US) also, seriously what kind of mini has 4 scum, 16 players is that even a mini 18 BlazinghandPerson was signed in when posted 05-20-2013 06:26 AM ET (US) man I really hope there isn't an SK, cause I'm gonna look bad as shit if two flips happen with the daypost. 17 marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 05-20-2013 05:41 AM ET (US) Edit Delete "because it's a mini". Blazing  yes, case of the year, because that 3 scum thing smells really bad, sweetheart. 16 marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 05-20-2013 05:30 AM ET (US) Edit Delete so why WERE you assuming there were 3 mafia total? it makes no sense as an assumption 15 marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 05-20-2013 05:21 AM ET (US) Edit Delete had to go to bed :p 14 BlazinghandPerson was signed in when posted 05-20-2013 04:49 AM ET (US) Okay, now I just need to write the fucking case of the year on someone and I'll make it through tomorrow. It no longer looks like I'll be scum's NK tonight, which is unfortunate. I've really derped this up lol 13 BlazinghandPerson was signed in when posted 05-20-2013 12:34 AM ET (US) "Not that any of this is relevant to proving that I'm town, but you're wrong and you need to be informed that you're wrong." to be saved for eva 12 BlazinghandPerson was signed in when posted 05-19-2013 11:44 PM ET (US) actually, at least after I flip he will be very convinced 11 BlazinghandPerson was signed in when posted 05-19-2013 11:40 PM ET (US) god more of this "look, a scumslip" bullshit. looks like I gotta convince DP scumslips don't exist 10 BlazinghandPerson was signed in when posted 05-19-2013 11:23 PM ET (US) I'm around, by the way, and checking this thread. 9 marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 05-19-2013 05:29 PM ET (US) Edit Delete sure thing, I'll be up for about 3 hours from now. and slacking at work tomorrow. :p 8 BlazinghandPerson was signed in when posted 05-19-2013 05:27 PM ET (US) I've actually got work for about 2 hours, but after that I'll do my best to make up for my earlier low-tier play and get some stuff done tonight. Despite my general shittiness, there's a non-zero chance scum will shoot me tonight so I have to make good on my time. 7 marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 05-19-2013 05:25 PM ET (US) Edit Delete fair point. now we're masoned it actually means I have to do work this cycle. damn 6 BlazinghandPerson was signed in when posted 05-19-2013 05:24 PM ET (US) They're not scum, I don't think there's anything to gain by masoning those two. 5 marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 05-19-2013 05:23 PM ET (US) Edit Delete you don't think iamp and DP are townier than me?  4 BlazinghandPerson was signed in when posted 05-19-2013 05:21 PM ET (US) Seriously though since you're like the towniest player in the thread, by masoning you I assure that people don't say "oh BH is masoning his scumbuddy who has fakeclaimed being masoned". Also we have more to gain putting our heads together than a typical pair would. 3 marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 05-19-2013 05:15 PM ET (US) Edit Delete Interesting. hello 2 BlazinghandPerson was signed in when posted 05-19-2013 05:15 PM ET (US) yo so what's new my homie. i can only mason for nights. I picked you since you're the man | ||
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On May 21 2013 06:16 goodkarma wrote: So I'm around. If someone can summarize the casepoints standing against me I would appreciate it. I'll start by trying to fetch out Spicy's stuff, since that seemed to be a piece of it. I posted something a couple of pages ago that's kinda important. | ||
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On May 21 2013 06:27 Stutters695 wrote: More importantly, what do you make of these NKs Vayne? lol I like this, thanks stutters. | ||
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On May 21 2013 06:59 Dandel Ion wrote: Why would a team around scum-BH shoot iamperfection, directly implicating him further? Basically, that assumes that either a SK shot iamp, or he's getting bussed all the way. Otherwise it just makes no sense. Because both iamp and I know that iamp is mason already, it's not a secret. There is literally zero chance the entire thread isn't reading iamp as the town mason in this scenario, so may as well take out a blue. | ||
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Blazing's assumption that it means 3p is certainly not a good one. When I was last mafia in a 16 player mini, we had a mafia vigi (Hero Mini Mafia). If town has a vigi he might not have shot last night. Who knows. | ||
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On May 21 2013 08:17 Stutters695 wrote: Marv, what are the odds of BH being a town mason in your opinion? pretty low, he's constantly put off scumhunting + making cases, despite promising to do so last night. He didn't use our mason QT as a chance to get anything done like he said he would either. Further his opening couple of posts in said QT came off rather as overjustification for masoning me (I talk about this in the iamp QT too) | ||
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On May 21 2013 08:28 goodkarma wrote: I've already explicitly described my thought process behind what I did day one in my filter. You should read that more closely.: So you're playing for town, which you were pretty insistent in The Game meant you were taking it slow and not making premature cases, wanting to interact before voting etc. You can't use not reading your role PM as part of your defence but then say you'd be playing as you would as town. | ||
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On May 21 2013 08:25 Blazinghand wrote: in fact, when i gave a short explanation, you asked for more explanation afterwards, which i provided wtf I'm talking about posts 2 and 4, which you posted totally unprompted, so no. | ||
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On May 21 2013 08:28 WaveofShadow wrote: Well I require some insight if you will as I have never rolled scum or any sort of NK role. Do people often wait to use vigi shots if town/scum? I think most if not all of the games I've seen with one-shot vigs (although apparently there's other types of vigs like infinite shot? I've only ever seen one-shot i think) they tend to shoot pretty much as soon as they can? As far as shot reasoning, from what I understand: Mafia vig - shoot to remove extra threats, or cause confusion amongst town Town vig - shoot to remove lurkers, or if you're REALLY sure someone is scum? The Rayn kill obviously doesn't fit in my understanding of what a townvig should be doing (even though he lurked slightly more than usual for him, doesn't compare to other people in this thread) therefore it must have been mafia vig or 3P. I know in LXI Grush was shot by Ace because STARSENSES and he was a low profile player---likely to cause confusion as to who shot him and why (though in the end I think he really gave away that it wasn't a mafia shot because no mafia would ever shoot grush lol) so it makes me wonder if a 3P were choosing a similar strategy to Ace why not either shoot Grush to cause that confusion once more or a similarly useless player? Why Rayn? I would say town vigis usually shoot on night 1s (even though they shouldn't in minis especially, they should wait). I rolled vigi 3 times, shot twice first night and once 2nd night. Then again I don't expect to live to use my shot. Shooting grush causes no confusion (at least not to a town with me alive). Either town vigi claims his bad shot and I shout at them, or it's 3p, because on night 1 especially it sure as hell isn't a mafia shot. If I were 3p, I would leave enough weirdish, unreadable-ish players around like grush, stutters etc around as much as possible, because they never bring clarity to a game. | ||
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On May 21 2013 08:37 Blazinghand wrote: well it seemed like a good idea. huh? | ||
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