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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2013 15:59 GMT
#410
ok, you really need to answer the Oats thing and why Sentinel unvoting Vivax makes him your TOP SUSPECT.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2013 16:04 GMT
#412
On May 17 2013 00:59 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 00:58 marvellosity wrote:
phagga, you are verily my Iago.

I have no idea what that means.

I have to head off to the train, I should be online again in about 3 hours hopefully (depends on the kids).


Jafar's parrot in Aladdin ^_^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2013 16:07 GMT
#415
Sharrant, Sentinel voted for Vivax, ghost voted for Vivax, Sentinel unvoted Vivax. That's the timeline as I see it.

Are you seriously suggesting a mafia Sentinel unvoted a player because one other player voted for him?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2013 16:16 GMT
#420
On May 17 2013 01:12 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:07 marvellosity wrote:
Sharrant, Sentinel voted for Vivax, ghost voted for Vivax, Sentinel unvoted Vivax. That's the timeline as I see it.

Are you seriously suggesting a mafia Sentinel unvoted a player because one other player voted for him?


Zepphird also voted for him in that time frame. After seeing Vivax get two quick votes from people that sounded like they were ready to pursue him about it, yes I could see him unvoting and just trying to ride out the day. There were 3 votes on him all within 1 or 2 pages, it certainly looked to me, when I was reading through everything, that votes were going to pile up on Vivax from that point on.


you're right, Zeph did. ok, I missed that.

*ponders*

kinda makes more sense.

how do you feel about lynching deconduo?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2013 16:23 GMT
#422
##Unvote
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2013 16:25 GMT
#424
This is true. Thank you for being more observant/diligent than me, phagga.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2013 16:38 GMT
#428
I actually have remarkably little time between now and the deadline, which is annoying. Curses early deadline!

There are two main reasons I could lynch deconduo, since I keep canvassing opinion about it.

First of all, there's the drop and run case on ghost. It's an easy case for mafia to make (yes yes, I know I agreed with some of it), and besides it there's very little interactions or comments on other players. I did a check on some of his previous games earlier, in PYP Boardwalk, decon was pretty quick to offer comments on several different players, unlike here.

Secondly there's this post:

On May 16 2013 00:04 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 23:57 marvellosity wrote:
On May 15 2013 23:53 deconduo wrote:
Hmm, what I would probably aim to do, given the setup, is to try and gather 2 groups together. The ABCFJ block is quite nice, and positioned well. If they head for the top left corner (assuming there's no angels in the way) and try and set up defensively there.

The rest are scattered around a bit more, but its still salvagable if they aim to head towards the bottom edge, probably close to where E is right now. G is the most isolated of everyone and is a good bet for being the first angel-food unless he has high movespeed.

Identifying who we all are is definitely a priority. I would argue that rather than waiting until the deadline to announce our moves, we should all come up with 12 unique moves and assign them to each player. This avoids any chance of scum doubling up on moves.


This carries the massive risk of scum influencing what the moves we make are.


Use a random number generator to assign the moves or something. Or come up with 24/36 moves and give people a choice between 2/3 of them which they reveal after the deadline. There are a few ways around it anyway.

The only problem with this is that everyone has different move speeds.



I still feel this plan is pretty mafia-motivated. As I understand how the movement rules work, giving pre-determined directions to players has massive benefits for mafia, because they know how the movements correspond to each player, which could help them determine how the hidden angels that we don't know about would move, while giving out information ahead of townies ahead of time is meaningless because they can't know who they are.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2013 16:43 GMT
#430
That's not what I wrote, please stop misrepresenting things Oats, it's very annoying.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2013 16:47 GMT
#432
Sharrant, if you check the nested quote, he only offered that solution after being pressed, having originally offered the idea of giving one set movement per player.

One way or another, I can see literally no reason to pre-assign moves to townies, and pretty obvious mafia reasons.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2013 16:50 GMT
#434
On May 17 2013 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:43 marvellosity wrote:
That's not what I wrote, please stop misrepresenting things Oats, it's very annoying.

no that is what you wrote. Simplified, but it is.


no, it isn't. The first point was about his play in this game, the meta was only a small supporting argument. The 2nd was that the plan was mafia-motivated, nothing to do with bad/good.

Learn to read.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2013 16:53 GMT
#435
The fact you're characterising the first argument as a meta argument renders your opinion worthless.

In any case, I'm going to vote for deconduo. Can anyone give me any good reasons he's town?

I'm still not massively anti- the Vivax wagon, my biggest problem with it is the ease of it's take-off. That makes me squirm.

##Vote: deconduo
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2013 16:55 GMT
#437
I should also mention that I'm backing off Sharrant because his answers feel sincere, without any edge to them that I can discern one way or another. He's not complaining that I'm attacking him, he's just trying to explain his viewpoints. I'm still not a fan of some of the things he said earlier, but his explanations and posting since then make me view him more favourably.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2013 16:56 GMT
#439
On May 17 2013 01:55 Sharrant wrote:
You have my axe, Marv.

##Vote: Deconduo


Should have got you lynched, really, I would have gotten my long-awaited prize all the sooner ;P
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2013 17:05 GMT
#444
On May 17 2013 02:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
bad plan = mafia motivated plan.
If deconduo did this in every game, he wouldnt be scum off that right? So the lynchpin is META.


if you take out what I said about meta, the point stands for itself. So no, the lynchpin is not meta.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2013 17:08 GMT
#446
On May 17 2013 02:04 Zephirdd wrote:
We can still lynch sharrath i thimk. Deadline is in 3 hours iirc. Posting from phone @class so forgive me if this post is rushed.

I dislike a deconduo lynch though. I made a big post about all players where I say it - there was a question he asked that makes me think would never be asked by an angel.

Vivax looks like a better lynch than decond atm IMO


You need to elaborate on this for 2 reasons:

1) in your post you actually say decon's posts come across as pretty scummy
2) I can't see anything he asked that either alignment couldn't have asked. Explain to me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2013 17:41 GMT
#455
I'm only going to be here sporadically between now and deadline; exercise/food/shower etc.

We need to start consolidating; Vivax I'm not voting for Zephirdd today and I find it extremely unlikely 6 people other than you will too. Look into what I said about deconduo please?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2013 19:36 GMT
#480
Vote count please!

On May 17 2013 02:02 fferyllt wrote:
I'm seriously considering sheeping you, marvellosity. Want to reread some thread sections first, though.


This is now disgusting. You can't say this and then disappear.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2013 19:55 GMT
#497
On May 17 2013 04:54 Blazinghand wrote:
WE CAN STILL DO VIVAX??? anyone?


I could do Vivax just for that case on Zephirdd really.

Someone needs to decide now who we're doing. I don't trust either of them at all. I'm going to choose vivax, but will consolidate as necessary. Both are decent lynches really.

##unvote
##vote: vivax
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2013 19:57 GMT
#501
On May 17 2013 04:52 deconduo wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Vivax


Better him than me. Also there really is no case against me...


There is a case, and "i'm always useless on day 1" is not a defence to it either. But whatever, we can deal with you later if needs be.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2013 19:59 GMT
#513
On May 17 2013 04:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
You have two minutes BH. Sell me. I have the changing post ready to go. Just sell me.


doesn't need selling, we need a lynch.
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