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On May 16 2013 02:38 Zephirdd wrote: ##unvote fferyllt That's more like it.
I'd like to see more from decond when he is available tbh.
I agree, it looks ok. He gets promoted to the middle list.
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That's what Oats does, Blazing.
He joins heavily themed games and then bitches about people talking about setup. If pushed I could probably go find an example.
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You know, I may actually be talking nonsense. I swear I remember him doing it before but I can't find where he did.
In PYP he seemed not too unhappy to talk about picking strategies and such.
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Apparently I need to read better / slower. lol. I'm glad my memory was somewhat vindicated though :p
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Blazing, my memory was of him being anti-setup talk, I just browsed through PYP too fast. He seems more strident in shutting it down this game than that game, but I'm not sure it means that much.
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On May 16 2013 05:23 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 05:17 Vivax wrote:On May 16 2013 03:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On May 15 2013 22:42 deconduo wrote: Can an Angel's movespeed be reduced to 0 if enough people are looking at it?
If this is the case, it makes a good argument for gathering in the middle with everyone looking outwards. If they can't reach us they can't kill us. But wouldn't mkfuba have to actively respond to the PM to participate in the game? I wouldn't say lynch him outright, but I'm a little suspicious. Let's see how the day goes though. My only red leaning read at this point is Vivax, whose filter after game start seems to be weak counterarguments to a fairly solid plan. His last post (the big one) also references the fact that with everyone moving at max speed, it would be easier to discern who is who. After explicitly saying that by learning this, Angels can figure out who is dangerous and vulnerable. I feel as if he is looking for this information for this reason. ##Vote: Vivax This is a scumslip, the host explicitly said that it's possible that the angels know our movement speeds already. You showing this level of security as to immediately call me scum in spite of that fact, is proof that you are either not reading the thread with your due diligence, or scum with the information that angels don't know our movement speed, given your overall play I'm strongly leaning on the latter. I'm expecting your explanation for this, and I want reads from you on every player who posted something substantial in the thread. >ctrl+f speed on crossfire's and greymist's filter > one match, saying Show nested quote +1. Which direction they would like to move (each player has a movement speed, you will be told this in your Role PM) Okay
ctrl-f crossfire's filter for "possible" (er, or possibly)
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ok deconduo, I can go with the don't talk about mechanics -> talk about mechanics and focus on scumhunting -> not scumhunting part of your case. I'd noticed it in his first post but the 2nd post tops it off. The bits about lynching me and claiming MS are just dumb, which isn't necessarily scummy, but it doesn't matter maybe.
##Vote: ghost_403
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Apart from ghost & fuba posting, I'm pretty interested in how this Vivax/Sentinel thing is gonna turn out.
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Yes, but don't preach if you ain't gonna walk the walk. Especially if you gonna talk about mechanics after saying we should be scumhunting and not talking about mechanics.
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Are you comfortable enough with this read to put your vote where your mouth is, Vivax?
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He is limited in time, I believe that he said that in the pre-game in fact? It's not really the point, though.
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On May 16 2013 08:54 ghost_403 wrote:*crickets in the thread* And people wonder why I don't post. A brief retort at Marv and Dec: Only an idiot would completely ignore the mechanics of a game. I chimed in my two cents, and then I was off to scum hunt. Unfortunately, it seems that no one is around whenever I'm here. Your reasons for voting me are terrible. Not a good sign, haven't decided what to make of that. I'm not impressed by Dec's play, but I might just be mad at him for voting me. I really don't like Oats play this game: plans are good, plans are bad, I'm on board, I feel like he's all over the place. I can't be arsed to look into his meta, otherwise I would lynch him for begin all over the place and generally unhelpful. BH's vouching for his meta is stopping me from voting him at the moment. I trust his read, haven't thought too much about his alignment. I'm not happy with Vivax's play, but I'm never happy with Vivax's play. I really don't like this post: + Show Spoiler +On May 16 2013 05:17 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 03:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On May 15 2013 22:42 deconduo wrote: Can an Angel's movespeed be reduced to 0 if enough people are looking at it?
If this is the case, it makes a good argument for gathering in the middle with everyone looking outwards. If they can't reach us they can't kill us. But wouldn't mkfuba have to actively respond to the PM to participate in the game? I wouldn't say lynch him outright, but I'm a little suspicious. Let's see how the day goes though. My only red leaning read at this point is Vivax, whose filter after game start seems to be weak counterarguments to a fairly solid plan. His last post (the big one) also references the fact that with everyone moving at max speed, it would be easier to discern who is who. After explicitly saying that by learning this, Angels can figure out who is dangerous and vulnerable. I feel as if he is looking for this information for this reason. ##Vote: Vivax This is a scumslip, the host explicitly said that it's possible that the angels know our movement speeds already. You showing this level of security as to immediately call me scum in spite of that fact, is proof that you are either not reading the thread with your due diligence, or scum with the information that angels don't know our movement speed, given your overall play I'm strongly leaning on the latter. I'm expecting your explanation for this, and I want reads from you on every player who posted something substantial in the thread. It seems passionate and poorly thought out. He's not trying to figure out Sentinel's alignment, or really thinking about what's going on; he's trying to push him onto the defensive and start an easy lynch. It kind of looks like he immediately dropped it, but it is kind of hard to tell at this point in the game. Until someone convinces me that leaving Vivax in game is a good idea, ##vote vivax
Just popping in before bed. No, the reasons for voting you, that I agreed with certainly, are not terrible at all, they're pretty solid. Trying to dismiss them as terrible when they simply aren't smells bad.
In addition, you don't need other people present in the thread to give your thoughts and look for mafia, that's a pretty shoddy excuse for only having 2 posts up to that point as well.
I also find it interesting how you categorise it as BH's vouching for Oats' meta, when BH was voting for Oats before I pushed him off it? That's a very interesting interpretation that you repeated twice.
I'm not really happy with this post at all, but I don't know if it's because you're scum or because you're not at a level I'd hope from you. I'd say expect, but ya know, red-check lylo thing ;p
I'm pretty keen on hearing your thoughts on Sentinel, he's a pretty central figure in this game with fairly obvious and notable things that he's done, and yet you've brushed him over.
Indulge me.
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Like, I really REALLY don't like the part where you said "i would've scumhunted if other people were in the thread when i was" when you haven't been in the thread at all and it doesn't stop you scumhunting. That's just nasty.
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BH, you backing off the idea of Sentinel mafia and preferring Vivax? I'm still struggling to get over that early fferyltt thing to be honest.
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Just re-read Sentinel's post. I like this:
On May 16 2013 10:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +Sentinel's play has been bad this game as well, but IIRC, I always think that. Explain me why you vote for Vivax and not myself. That's a shitty vote to throw around.
Very inconsistent. Maybe my vote's in the right place already.
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On May 16 2013 20:23 Vivax wrote: I didn't even realize he had written that.
Sentinel gets townie points for pointing out a selectivity that would favor him. I'm just troubled with ghost showing a preference at all. It's possible he and sentinel are scumbuddies, but why does sentinel point it out then?
This is a really good point. My brain hasn't managed to process a good answer since reading it yet.
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Vivax, who do you want to kill right now?
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On May 16 2013 21:16 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 20:59 marvellosity wrote: Vivax, who do you want to kill right now? Oats cause he played like scum, and I wouldn't regret the loss if he's town. Frankly I don't understand how you can give him a townread just like that, I would like you to expand on it, and also your opinion on BH quickly abandoning the Oats option and then claiming towards me to have laid out reasoning for Oats being town, when he has only sheeped your reasoning IIRC. As for others, I'll wait for the return of Sentinel and Ghost to comment on the situation. Sharrant if he doesn't post more. He's usually very lengthy and insightful as town.
Well, BH only kinda sheeped what I said about Oats, except he actually went back for himself and found the proof of what I had suggested. The crux of his case was the anti-setup shizzle which we know now Oats has done before.
Oats is posting a lot, and while I have much greater difficulty reading him than a month or two ago, I still don't think he likes being the centre of attention so much when he's mafia, he prefers to lurk a little more.
Apologies if you've explained before, but could you recap why Oats is playing like mafia? Or how/why he's playing differently to how town Oats usually plays?
Sharrant's absence is pretty annoying, yes.
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On May 16 2013 21:20 phagga wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 20:09 marvellosity wrote: BH, you backing off the idea of Sentinel mafia and preferring Vivax? I'm still struggling to get over that early fferyltt thing to be honest. What exactly is troubling you about fferyltt?
I mean Sentinel's extremely odd posting towards ferry's opening post, the 'over-eager' and 'honest mistake' stuff. It's just SO weird.
And I'm calling him ferry or something from now on, fuck writing that username out.
On May 16 2013 21:20 Vivax wrote: Marv, could you answer your own question now?
I'm still ok with my vote on ghost for now, but I'm not very sure about it. There's like a whole load of outstanding situations that require people to post more really.
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