Repeatedly referring to one's self as "confirmed town" without saying how or why, using it to strengthen his position, is not eyebrow-raising to you Hapa?

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

April 13 2013 02:18 GMT

#404

Like I just don't get it. Why are you so willing to invent a narrative that explains MY actions from a scum perspective, but you're unwilling to make a read on anyone else.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

April 13 2013 02:27 GMT

#410

Oh GOD contribution bloating too? Tunnel VE = doing more than everyone else. That's more dismissive of what's been happening in the thread than ANYTHING I've said in this game to date.

Ugh, maybe you're right Hapa, time may be what's needed here. Like everything you're saying looks worse and worse to me, and that signals bias to me.

I'll be back tomorrow with (hopefully) a new perspective.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

April 13 2013 05:32 GMT

#432

Do you have some reason to doubt he's town? I'm very very interested in lynching Cheese if he's scum, so please do tell if you do.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

April 13 2013 05:33 GMT

#433

Also is that the only question you have? I find it hard to believe that the entire body of your thoughts hinge on the answer to that question.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

April 13 2013 05:43 GMT

#435

Also there's absolutely nothing townie about that post. Showing an awareness of who is in the thread at the time means NOTHING in regard to someone's alignment. ZERO. Tell me why you think that's townie Hapa.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

April 13 2013 05:54 GMT

#437

I can. "All these people are here: if I buddy them all simultaneously, maybe they'll think I'm town"

:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

And that was just like, off the top of my head. Try again.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

April 13 2013 06:04 GMT

#439

Like, I don't have a read one way or the other on Cheese. But the fact of the matter is that you're basically trying to excuse not having a single scumread on anyone aside from Prom, but you're handing out town-reads like fucking candy. Why? Why would you do that as town? Why are you so trusting with some for so little reasoning, but so suspicious of others for so little reasoning? The meta answer doesn't cut it because this is a Hydra game and despite what you think you know about players, you've ALREADY shown ignorance to which head is typing a given post IN THIS THREAD. So the meta answer is fucking useless and is going to get you NOWHERE.

##Unvote
##Vote: ShotgunBiceps

For fabricating a case on me, bullshitting townreads, refusing to comment on players with actual content, and for excluding me from his voting bloc.

PEdit: Scum. With Hapa.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

April 13 2013 06:27 GMT

#441

My theory on Palmar's "I'm confirmed town":

Palmar isn't mod-confirmed anything but a liar. I'll grant you that the act alone of lying so boldly to town speaks more toward a townPalmar than a scum Palmar, but this isn't a vacuum and there are other factors. First: Palmar did nothing with the discussion that was generated by his stunt. Second: If argued that his stunt was rendered ineffective due to mod-tampering, Palmar hasn't commented on a single thing that has happened in the thread OUTSIDE of his stunt, and this has been a relatively active start.

Regarding DP, I didn't like his +1 to Vivax's post about ISH defending me. The context of Yamato defending me was clear - he disagreed with the logic SB was using and said as much. However, the way Vivax framed his suspicion was that Yamato should have no reason to trust me, therefor shouldn't be defending me. Except - Yamato never said anything ABOUT trusting me. He didn't like Hapa's reasoning for attacking me and said as much. It was a blatant misrepresentation of the situation.

Further, DP keeps referring to Palmar calling them "confirmed town"...I remember twice, maybe three times without consulting his filter.

Further, DP's point against me was ridiculous. I've been playing a very serious game so far, I've hardly derped, raged or otherwise trolled the thread...but he's like "HHMMM THAT'S A SUSPICIOUS AMOUNT OF NOT SERIOUS COMING FROM SOMEONE CLAIMING THEY'RE PLAYING SERIOUS AS AN EXCUSE ISN'T THAT ODD" Like really? That doesn't even make sense - it's not alignment indicative at all and I suspect he was just trying to fuel the VE=Scum sentiment.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

April 13 2013 06:30 GMT

#443

You just got suckered by his instantaneous "Yeah you town" when you cased him Yamato, get outta here. He's been grasping at this VE read all game. He immediately wants to back out of talking with me as soon as I fucking OWN his argument, and now he's bullshitting townreads instead of trying to find scum. Hapa is scum.

You wanted to talk about DP. Talk. I've talked much. Respond.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

April 13 2013 06:43 GMT

#445

So are you going to wait on an answer to "Like WTF?" before commenting on people that others find suspicious? I get trying to do your own thing and that's commendable and everything, but A) what if I don't trust your method of reaching townreads and B) how am I to ascertain your alignment in the interim?

Like, for example, Hapa has answered your question. You haven't said whether his answer was acceptable, or if you agree or disagree, or anything. Your whole big post there said absolutely nothing. Stop saying nothing and start saying something Mocsta.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

April 13 2013 06:52 GMT

#448

I don't like the "That's just..not what he does" argument. What DOES he do? When his fabricated bullshit case get's fucking trounced, how DOES mafia Hapa respond?

But whatever, you're right I'm tunneled in after specifically trying to look at other people. Let's instead lynch Palmar/DP...because they're scum, but more importantly, I thoroughly enjoy making them angry.

##Unvote
##Vote: JohnMatrix

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

April 13 2013 07:09 GMT

#460

How about the weak +1 to Yam Suspicion and never following up on it? That doesn't strike you as "scum motivated" in spite of having weak +1 suspicion of me too? Lots of weak +1 posts is no longer a valid scum tell around here?

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

April 13 2013 07:15 GMT

#461

And I'm gonna go on the record and say I'm a little salty we didn't get more Prom tonight.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

April 13 2013 07:18 GMT

#463

In closing:

Kill JohnMatrix. They don't care about finding scum. They only care about lying about nuking townies.

See you tomorrow thread.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

April 13 2013 07:20 GMT

#464

Yam your headphones came unplugged could you turn down the sarcasm?

Earlier when I called you out for your "contextless questions" I was attributing his play to you. I wanted more out of Prom because his initial flurry of questions were focusless, led nowhere and did nothing. I'm suspicious of him and want him in the thread explaining his shit. That bold enough for you?

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

April 13 2013 07:21 GMT

#465

Anyways, night for realz guys.

FiveTouch

Marshall Islands1474 Posts

April 13 2013 11:36 GMT

#489

Glad to see VE is throwing around votes in my absence. I'm not really sure what the vote on John Matrix is doing, Palmar in particular will (hopefully) contribute given time, and when he does I think I'll be able to read him. Mostly I'm hoping DP isn't gonna go "lol i'm with palmar i do what i like", because I get that sense a bit. Friendly prod, dear.

I went from mafia to silly-town on Hapa over the course of some posts last night, Hapa seemed to get a bit more reasonable even if my better half continued to provoke him a little, so we'll see where he goes from here.

On April 13 2013 07:56 FondleMyButtocks wrote:

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you scared of dying?

VE was right earlier in the day about Prome, his joke posts were tryhard and I don't understand at all what point he's trying to get at here. If we are indeed mafia, what kind of magical response is he expecting to elicit that will help confirm/deny this read? Anyways, I could kill him for now.

##Unvote
##Vote: FondleMyButtocks

~marv