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FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 00:03 GMT
#298
As far as I can see, he isn't defending me because he thinks I'm town, he's defending me because Hapa's reasoning is shitty. Calling out shitty logic isn't alignment indicative, and says nothing about what he thinks I am.

For the record.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 00:07 GMT
#308
I said it, not marv.

I say "bish" because it's less visually offensive to me than "bitch" even though in practice it means and is generally interpreted as exactly the same thing.

Any reason you want to focus on retarded, non alignment indicative shit when Hapa has a case on me and Yam has a case on Hapa? Seems to me there's ALL KINDS of stuff to comment on other than my vernacular.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 00:08 GMT
#311
On April 13 2013 09:06 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
I'm so evil =(

But seriously you guys should vote VE. No one has yet explained why his comment isn't objectively scummy.

It's even objectively scummy for VE.

On April 13 2013 08:34 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 08:32 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:27 FiveTouch wrote:
Well this is exciting and everything, but I've gotta go watch grass grow. Sorry, if it was anything less thrilling you know I'd be in here instead, but DAT FUCKING GRASS MAN.


##Unvote
##Vote FiveTouch


Anti-discussion.

No townie should care about a boring conversation in the first hour of the game. The entire point of this comment is to troll, detract, and create a negative atmosphere than anything else.

I disagree. It was meant to imply that the SUBJECT of the current discussion (Y YOU NO LOVE ME...DAT DUDE TOWN LOL JK...I WANT "X" LURKER TO POST CAUSE HE HASN'T YET) is boring as fuck and I'd just LOVE to get some FOR REAL REAL discussion going on. Like this bit right here! HEY IT WORKED! ^^

Anything else you'd like to be wrong about sir?

No one except for....the accused!
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 00:21 GMT
#324
On April 13 2013 09:06 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
I'm so evil =(

But seriously you guys should vote VE. No one has yet explained why his comment isn't objectively scummy.

It's even objectively scummy for VE.


I could almost forgive all the bullcrap you spouted before, Hapa, but you're clinging on for dear life here. His comment isn't 'objectively' scummy in the slightest, he was saying he was bored with all the trolling.

Do note in his last town game he was down to serious business within half an hour of first posting in the thread on Day 1 (The Game).

The fact you're pushing this like this either makes you bad or mafia.

Which is it to be?

~marv
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 00:21 GMT
#325
On April 13 2013 09:17 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 09:08 FiveTouch wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:06 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
I'm so evil =(

But seriously you guys should vote VE. No one has yet explained why his comment isn't objectively scummy.

It's even objectively scummy for VE.

On April 13 2013 08:34 FiveTouch wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:32 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:27 FiveTouch wrote:
Well this is exciting and everything, but I've gotta go watch grass grow. Sorry, if it was anything less thrilling you know I'd be in here instead, but DAT FUCKING GRASS MAN.


##Unvote
##Vote FiveTouch


Anti-discussion.

No townie should care about a boring conversation in the first hour of the game. The entire point of this comment is to troll, detract, and create a negative atmosphere than anything else.

I disagree. It was meant to imply that the SUBJECT of the current discussion (Y YOU NO LOVE ME...DAT DUDE TOWN LOL JK...I WANT "X" LURKER TO POST CAUSE HE HASN'T YET) is boring as fuck and I'd just LOVE to get some FOR REAL REAL discussion going on. Like this bit right here! HEY IT WORKED! ^^

Anything else you'd like to be wrong about sir?

No one except for....the accused!


No but you're proving my point here.

Scum do this all the time. This mentality of "all this discussion sucks! See you when we reaaaaaaly start playing" is something I've seen scum do time and time again.

Most recently, Mr.CC in Noir Mini, who spent the early-game shutting down policy talk and being angry at early-game discussion for no reason.

I don't care what you've seen. Do I appear to be "angry" at early game discussion? The post you quoted was a light-hearted jab and in NO WAY resembles CC's play from Noir. You're just making shit up to justify your fail-tunnel. Making shit up to strengthen one's position: scummy.

You say I'm trying to "shut down discussion" quoting one light-hearted jab...have you even read the rest of my filter? Does ANY of it look like I'm pushing the agenda you're saying I'm pushing?

I swear to God if this is real and not some kind of dipshit reaction test, you die today Hapa.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 00:23 GMT
#328
On April 13 2013 09:20 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
Alright, well we can be friends when you emerge from your tunnel or whatever it is.

Then you can fondle my buttocks with FondleMyButtocks



But let's talk about VE a bit. You think he makes comments like that all the time, and I vehemently disagree. Granted I'm no VE meta-expert, but he's usually very pro-discussion in the early-game as town.

And here I'm faced with this quote that is the exact opposite - calling everything boring and promising to watch paint dry. I think that goes quite against town-VE's mentality.


Can't tell if srs

~marv
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 00:25 GMT
#329
On April 13 2013 09:22 John Matrix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 09:11 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:10 John Matrix wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:06 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:06 John Matrix wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:56 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:55 VIVAX420 wrote:
ISH what makes you so sure that VE is town that you go as far as to defend him at this stage of the game?

Not defending him, Hapa looks odd. Why you not actually pressuring anyone?


Well you actually are defending him. Do you know what I find odd? I find it odd that VE would use being srs as an excuse for some out of character behavior and then proceed to be not srs ever since that point.

Also we are mod confirmed town now apparently.

YAY!

-DP

What the actual fuck, you better have some kind of proof of this.


Why don't you read the thread and see? I just did and when someone says they are going to be serious as an excuse and then proceed not to be serious don't you find that odd?

- DP

Yeah, but the problem is, HE'S BEING SERIOUS

Like, you're second on my lynch list if Hapa is actually town.

He was also not serious after that point.
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 08:27 FiveTouch wrote:
Well this is exciting and everything, but I've gotta go watch grass grow. Sorry, if it was anything less thrilling you know I'd be in here instead, but DAT FUCKING GRASS MAN.


Now I am not saying he can't joke around but I found it odd that he would say he was trying to be serious and then post something like this. W/E just found it odd. Now please discuss your threat of a vote to me? If you believe I was wrong does that make us scum? I find all this bluster ridiculous.

Also we are confirmed town or something so i don't care.

-DP
Now I am not

For the record, I was very serious about the discussion to that point being more boring than watching grass grow.

It's picked up considerably since that quote. ^^
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 00:31 GMT
#333
On April 13 2013 09:29 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 09:21 FiveTouch wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:06 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
I'm so evil =(

But seriously you guys should vote VE. No one has yet explained why his comment isn't objectively scummy.

It's even objectively scummy for VE.


I could almost forgive all the bullcrap you spouted before, Hapa, but you're clinging on for dear life here.


That's some rather lofty rhetoric there marvel-babe.

I'm rather comfortable with my vote so far =)

Show nested quote +
His comment isn't 'objectively' scummy in the slightest, he was saying he was bored with all the trolling.


Yes, and it was the manner in which he approached it that is scummy. It wasn't just that he was bored with it all - he was criticizing discussion without making any attempt to move it in the right direction. Idle and objectively-purposeless criticisms such as these are scummy

Mabye people don't understand the read I'm trying to explain. I don't think it's subtle, but maybe I need to make a longer post about it.

Show nested quote +
Do note in his last town game he was down to serious business within half an hour of first posting in the thread on Day 1 (The Game).


That wasn't his last town game. And what's even your point?


My "point" is that you're saying this isn't like town-VE, whereas town VE after a brief flurry of introduction usually gets down to serious business. You're the one making the contention.

~marv
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 00:35 GMT
#336
VE has neither been openly lazy nor careless, watch your tongue child.

~marv
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 00:37 GMT
#339
I'm rather enjoying the discussion today, I went into detail what I didn't like about the discussion. And note...none of it is happening right now. After I said something about it. :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO




:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 00:37 GMT
#340
On April 13 2013 09:36 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 09:31 FiveTouch wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:29 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:21 FiveTouch wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:06 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
I'm so evil =(

But seriously you guys should vote VE. No one has yet explained why his comment isn't objectively scummy.

It's even objectively scummy for VE.


I could almost forgive all the bullcrap you spouted before, Hapa, but you're clinging on for dear life here.


That's some rather lofty rhetoric there marvel-babe.

I'm rather comfortable with my vote so far =)

His comment isn't 'objectively' scummy in the slightest, he was saying he was bored with all the trolling.


Yes, and it was the manner in which he approached it that is scummy. It wasn't just that he was bored with it all - he was criticizing discussion without making any attempt to move it in the right direction. Idle and objectively-purposeless criticisms such as these are scummy

Mabye people don't understand the read I'm trying to explain. I don't think it's subtle, but maybe I need to make a longer post about it.

Do note in his last town game he was down to serious business within half an hour of first posting in the thread on Day 1 (The Game).


That wasn't his last town game. And what's even your point?


My "point" is that you're saying this isn't like town-VE, whereas town VE after a brief flurry of introduction usually gets down to serious business. You're the one making the contention.

~marv


Firstly it's VE that should be talking in his defense, not you.

Secondly, I don't believe that's a valid meta-argument about VE. He does that as scum too. Therefore I'm going to pursue objectively scummy actions.


Firstly, why?

Secondly, no. Stop being bad, it's irritating.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 00:37 GMT
#341
~marv
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 00:39 GMT
#345
I'm right here. You're the one not talking to me Hapa.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 00:49 GMT
#355
On April 13 2013 09:45 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 09:39 FiveTouch wrote:
I'm right here. You're the one not talking to me Hapa.


Too many people talking at once - kinda hard to focus.

Anyway, my suspicions stand that your quote was completely negative and anti-discussion. But you can't really contest that, since that's just my interpretation of it.

So let's move on to other things:

You were so eager to start discussion of actual things and "serious business." Well clearly things are more serious now, yet you've been making random troll-remarks during the course of this conversation. What gives?


I don't think I've been making random troll-remarks during this conversation. I think I've been stating my mind and being honest with the thread. If you can point out which remarks you're referring to I might be able to help you further.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 00:53 GMT
#360
@Hapa
Oh and I bolded the statement that invalidates your entire stance. You've been arguing that your read is good because my post is objectively scummy, yet you state yourself that there's NO DEFENSE TO BE MADE because it's based on your interpretation of my post, or in other words, not objective at all, rather subjective.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 01:08 GMT
#367
On April 13 2013 10:01 Hapahauli wrote:
As for conclusions from this whole escapade, I'm pretty sure Yamato is town. Not sure what to think about VE yet, but I don't think my current line of questioning will go anywhere to figure it out.

In all seriousness, I don't have a gut-town read on VE, which I usually do when he's scum, so he's probably not posting to "appease" the town.

Wow this stinks of obligatory too. Like "Oh shit, I posted without drawing any conclusions that might come off poorly, better go draw some conclusions without drawing any conclusions"

I'm actually interested now Hapa, you drew me into this "1 on 1 pow wow" and now you just wanna slink away now that we're rapping? Doesn't jive my friend, and most certainly doesn't compute. Give me your thoughts on Vivax sir. He's got his fingers in both pies right now, and I'd like to know where you think he's coming from. I think maybe he's scum rooting for just any ol' townie to get lynched. You?
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 01:26 GMT
#379
I want to hear SnB/Draz' opinions on the state of the game right now.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 01:28 GMT
#380
I didn't go anywhere - your response didn't satisfy me and I'm trying to read other people instead of you because I'm afraid I'm biased now. SnB/Draz did nothing but +1 your initial suspicion of me and then fuck off. Interested in what they have to say about stuff now.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 01:35 GMT
#383
Well for starters, you never adequately explained how me coming in and joking about watching grass grow is more likely to come from a scumVE than a townVE. In fact, I can't understand your motivation at all. First of all, I've been in here openly discussing everything with everyone, INCLUDING you. You ignored the majority of my filter in support of your weak accusation, and still assert that it's scummy to you, you just can't be fucked into explaining why. So how does me joking about exciting grass mean that I'm attempting to stifle discussion? ALL evidence points to the opposite, except for the one joke post you quoted. I'm in the same boat as Yam at this point - I know you're better than this. My initial thought was "Oh, he's got to be fishing for reactions" or something but you're not - you want the thread to believe that you genuinely find me suspicious for this...and that's suspicious to me.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 01:55 GMT
#389
But I'm questioning you here, not the other way around. We'll change topics when I'm satisfied (being the point in the first place right?)

Now, Cheesecake's post is very obviously critical in tone and verbiage (blah blah policy blah, full retard, common sense, savvy?). That much is true. What I'm failing to understand is how you came to the conclusion that I must be pushing an agenda of stifling discussion by me calling the discussion "boring". Boring doesn't mean "useless" or "stupid" or "common sense" or anything dismissive at all. It means that reading it was making me bored. Why no hate at Palmar for fucking off to watch Watchmen? Why no hate for WoC for this?

On April 13 2013 08:23 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
Also I'd just like to direct people's attention to a theme I'm seeing here:
FondleMyButtocks
ShotgunBiceps
FiveTouch
InsertSmurfHere

I knew there was a reason I got aroused when I started reading the thread.


I mean, he's in your accusation of me and everything, and here he is, drawing eyes off your case on me with this drivel. No hate for the Cheese? Only hate for VE. It stinks of pushing an agenda. This is my problem.
Artanis & marv
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