EPTDo you think it's possible both marv and Palmar are scum?
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
Do you think it's possible both marv and Palmar are scum? | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On April 08 2013 07:52 DarthPunk wrote: That is like the least important part of the entire post. Just lynch axle please. It's important if he's just bullshitting out of thin air. You need to understand this. Lynch deadline is 3 hours away. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On April 08 2013 07:54 marvellosity wrote: It's important if he's just bullshitting out of thin air. You need to understand this. Lynch deadline is 3 hours away. Also how the fuck is talking about the reads of the leading lynch candidate not important? | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On April 08 2013 07:55 marvellosity wrote: Also how the fuck is talking about the reads of the leading lynch candidate not important? I don't see how whether you actually stated you were good at this game or just implied it is important. You certainly implied it by calling others terrible, even people who actually are not terrible. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
dp, scib, iamp on axle marv, wos, oats, palm on ace | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 08 2013 07:49 marvellosity wrote: Where do I keep claiming I'm good at this game? I said I'm wrong less than DP and that's about all I can remember. Can you provide examples please, Ace? you're right marv, that's just me being silly and seeing something that isn't there. My bad. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 08 2013 07:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ace: Do you think it's possible both marv and Palmar are scum? of course. I don't see why not. @DP: Is the case on Axle boiling down to we need to lynch anybody, and he isn't here? That's the vibe I'm getting from skimming. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On April 08 2013 07:59 Ace wrote: you're right marv, that's just me being silly and seeing something that isn't there. My bad. :/ Why are you playing nicey-nicey with me when you've been antagonising me all game? I don't get it :< | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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prplhz
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On April 08 2013 08:01 Ace wrote: of course. I don't see why not. @DP: Is the case on Axle boiling down to we need to lynch anybody, and he isn't here? That's the vibe I'm getting from skimming. Pretty Much. We need to lynch somebody and he is known to post a heap as town and generally interact more with the thread, which he hasn't this game. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
@prp: I'm trying to get people off my wagon and see that marv and Palmar are active but not contributing. I'm also waiting for DP's reply about the Axle wagon. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
sciberbia (1): raynpelikoneet WaveofShadow (3): Tunkeg, prplhz, AxleGreaser marvellosity (1): Ace Ace (4): marvellosity, WaveofShadow, Oatsmaster, Palmar AxleGreaser (3): DarthPunk, sciberbia, iamperfection Not voting (0): 7 votes needed to lynch. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 08 2013 08:03 DarthPunk wrote: Pretty Much. We need to lynch somebody and he is known to post a heap as town and generally interact more with the thread, which he hasn't this game. gah a meta lynch? why would you do this to me you know I loathe this :/ It could be possible he just isn't around | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On April 08 2013 06:41 sciberbia wrote: marv why are you leaning town on axle? Do you not find any of these points concerning:
Here's what I jotted down while I was going through axle's filter: + Show Spoiler + Axle notes: On April 05 2013 13:49 AxleGreaser wrote: @Palmar I am curious. I don't yet have any meta on you apart from memory... Can you direct me to any game in which you ##FOS a player? Id like to see under what conditions you normally do that? ##Fos Palmar I like this. Palmar was actually joking and he does never FoS. Judging by his comments about coming pre-armed into Noir, I think Axle knows this and has never seen him do this. It's an interesting thought and one I like. On April 07 2013 00:40 AxleGreaser wrote: Even though I think it was Marv that suggested it, I am not sure why WoS being scum would make you scum. It could do, but that is a preflip association case. My problem is even if WoS is town, scum know who is town and know they can defend them for the towny cred if they get flipped. ##vote Sciberbia I don't understand this vote on sciberbia. Where did it come from? I don't see the reasoning. On April 07 2013 00:58 AxleGreaser wrote: Yeah sorry, it was clear in my head, just not the thread. + Show Spoiler + On April 07 2013 00:40 AxleGreaser wrote: Even though I think it was Marv that suggested it, I am not sure why WoS being scum would make you scum. It could do, but that is a preflip association case. My problem is even if WoS is town, scum know who is town and know they can defend them for the towny cred if they get flipped. ##vote Sciberbia back here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18217152 I asked scrib some questions about how he viewed WoS and why scrib interpreted certain posts in certain ways. Specifically i was concerned that Scrib had been just assuming WoS was town for some reason, and not wondering why WoS had been posting stuff or wondering what WoS had been thinking was good reason for posting stuff. To me there appeared to be a significant lack of suspicion of WoS intentions. This latest post, shows a number of reasons that scrib thinks WoS is town, to me none of them are consistent with a townie mindset or level of suspicion. We are not yet at Hammer time, I don't intend to make hammer case. I feel it deserves another vote. And yet these reasons actually make plenty of sense. Carrying on through page 1 of Axle's filter, he seems to find WoS suspicious for his actions, but apparently sciberbia more suspicious for his reaction to WoS's actions. The thing is, he didn't hammer WoS when he had the chance. It was L-1 and he could have voted for him. Why didn't he? On April 07 2013 10:43 AxleGreaser wrote: Some people determine alignment by ......... , I ask questions an listen to answers or the lack of them. How are you trying to determine alignment? I like this for reasons I can't put my finger on. On April 07 2013 13:52 AxleGreaser wrote: That is fine, so when you did "With every post I analyze I look at look at possible townie and mafia intentions behind it." analyse WoS's post, what possible townie intention did you see behind it? Did the townie intention you saw to that post not include WoS (at the very least) recently deciding on whether or not to "think" about Lynching Rayn, but had come down so nearly on the "not yet, do something else now side" that he sought a second opinion? If I had been recently thinking (should I / shouldn't I) pursue Rayn as scum(due to the posting style), and I got asked "Was there any reason you thought we should lynch a headless chook?" Then as WoS I could have, and would have, answered the question, I would also probably indicate that words had just been seemingly put in my mouth and that while i had recently been onsidering that option... blah blah.... That was the reason I believe I also provided my answer to the question. That the presence of the(an) answer did not even trigger recognition (easier than recall [www.ehow.com/info_7754397_recall-vs-recognition.html ] ) memory of "Oh yeah I was just thinking that" indicates to me he quite probably had not recently considered how Lynchworthy posting like that was. He had thus handed me what he considered to be an anchor. I think this topic is about done. I believe I understand why you said pretty much all of what you did. Doesnt make you town, probably not my best Lynch though... for now... ##unvote Sciberbia Backs off sciberbia in what seems to be a reasonable way. He drops his pursuit of sciberbia and starts to pursue WoS. This seems consistent with how he earlier viewed WoS, as suspicious with his behaviour. Generally speaking Axle is quite focused in his targets as town, in Noir he seemed to focus in hard on Hopeless despite other things being discussed in the thread. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
I didn't think you were saved at L-2 (which is a big reason why I didn't vote). If you were going to get lynched I'd rather you claim before the hammer and have the Town debate on that and see if it's worth keeping you alive. It's normal play in majority lynch and I'm sorry if I assumed most people around would behave like that. But once again it makes no sense for me to stick a vote on you in that situation as anyone could end the day with a hammer right after. I thought I made it clear but even though I was leaning in the direction of you being Scum I wanted a bit more information and that is how the entire "where did you claim?" thing happened. The trap was just seeing if you said "I claimed" and then when I asked, ignored it or just made up a bunch of bs where you didn't really claim but implied it. Like I already said you had no idea I was referring to a roleclaim, and I had no clue you were referring to your post early in the game. As to the bolded - yes. Scum do it all the time because they don't think Townies are reading the thread You assume 'most people' would behave like that. Immediately trying to discredit my play and make me look bad. If in my mind I already claimed then there was no need to even do so at L-2 since it already happened, never mind what a 'normal player' would do. Obviously if I were in real danger of being lynched I'd blueclaim; do you not remember the clusterfuck in The Game? Of course I knew you were referring to a roleclaim but I assumed the fact that I told you I did which would direct attention to my first post, without adding any extra info that would make VT the appropriate assumption; we've been over this though, unfair assumption on my part I guess, but you assume I just don't know what you're talking about at all. And as to the bolded, I have never seen scum make that kind of a slip; define 'all the time,' please. It seems you're living in a fictional mafia world where every player is terrible. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On April 08 2013 08:05 Ace wrote: gah a meta lynch? why would you do this to me you know I loathe this :/ It could be possible he just isn't around No, it isn't possible he just isn't around as he explicitly stated not that long ago that he had made room for this game to the extent of altering his sleeping patterns to overlap with the US and Europe more. | ||
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marvellosity
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