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sleeping is good
##Unvote
Hey guys, about Sciberia and DP.
They clearly DONT CARE what I have to say in response to them. I responded to DP's case.
IGNORED. I posted more stuff about Sciberia. IGNORED.
Again about Sciberia lets hammer this scum.
On April 07 2013 08:44 sciberbia wrote:goddammit. Just had a nice post typed out and my computer crashed. I will summarize
I still don't think WoS is scum. His death posts felt fine and a few recent lines in his filter just feel genuine to me: + Show Spoiler +On April 06 2013 10:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
I could vote prplhz, but how can I be sure that isn't just his 'typical play' as Oats previously told me? On April 07 2013 03:24 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 02:27 prplhz wrote:
##Vote WaveofShadow
busy might post more later. palmar and marv both on this one so it's probably good. skimmed tunkeg's case and it looked alright though i didn't really get all of it. When I die, look here. On April 06 2013 10:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
I still have a lot of trouble with the idea that there are people we can just 'let do their thing' and if anyone actually suspects them before that point it's scummy. I can't see myself ever getting used to that idea.
On April 07 2013 03:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Personally all the business with Oats/DP/iamp/whoever just seems to me like townies going at townies. DP seems very town to me sepcifically.
In this game I think scum are much more likely to be in the lurky category. Prplhz and Ace/Axle? Tunkeg's case didnt' do much for me. Some of his points weren't scumtells (paragraph 1) and others were misrepresenting what happened in the thread (paragraphs 2,3,4). My only gripe with WoS is his generally low activity before he had like 6 votes but overall I'm still thinking town and I wouldn't be happy lynching him today.
prplh'z vote on WoS reminded me of his unabashed pile-on onto Forumite D1 in Dwarf Mini. He still has hardly done anything and I'd be alright with lynching him today. But seeing as we have no time limit, I'd still like to hear more from him before hanging him. @marv I was confused by your refusal to lynch prplhz today, because the only two games I've read with you and prplhz on D1 (Dwarf Mini and that game you were mayor), prplhz played similarly to this game, you voted him, and he was scum. What's different about this game that makes him a bad lynch?
Palmar, not getting lynched today is one of my top priorities, so I'd be interested in having some discussion with you and hopefully help you see the light. What do you want me to address? Also I think I owe Axle an answer to something. Going back through his filter now.
Wtf what is this post that PUSHES NOTHING.
Its REACTIVE not proactive. Scum are reactive. Town are proactive.
He talks about WoS in LENGTH and defends him for no bloody reason when it was clear that he was not very close to being lynched.
##Vote Sci
Wagon on marv is stupid.
Why is he scum? ALL THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR HIM?
Im assuming Palmar's is a pressure vote but the rest, Im not so sure.
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On April 07 2013 15:10 sciberbia wrote:
marv has seen me play a lot, and I don't think my play this game has been that different from other games where I've been town. Marv should know that I like posting fluffy setup stuff as town, and overall I think he should be able to read me as town, or at the very least not have a scumread. But I suppose it's possible we both just overestimate each other and that he is impatient and doesn't think like me.
Even before the wagon on me, I was leaning scum on marv based on some things earlier in the game. I think there's a decent chance he's scum.What?
Is this like the 'You should BE ABLE TO SEE THAT I AM TOWN', scumtell thing? Cause thats is absolute bullshit and inaccurate.
Do you have ANY REASONS why marv is scum? or are you just bullshitting?
The one above ISNT.
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On April 07 2013 15:25 sciberbia wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 07 2013 15:05 Oatsmaster wrote:sleeping is good ##UnvoteHey guys, about Sciberia and DP. They clearly DONT CARE what I have to say in response to them. I responded to DP's case. IGNORED. I posted more stuff about Sciberia. IGNORED. Again about Sciberia lets hammer this scum. Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 08:44 sciberbia wrote:goddammit. Just had a nice post typed out and my computer crashed. I will summarize
I still don't think WoS is scum. His death posts felt fine and a few recent lines in his filter just feel genuine to me: + Show Spoiler +On April 06 2013 10:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
I could vote prplhz, but how can I be sure that isn't just his 'typical play' as Oats previously told me? On April 07 2013 03:24 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 02:27 prplhz wrote:
##Vote WaveofShadow
busy might post more later. palmar and marv both on this one so it's probably good. skimmed tunkeg's case and it looked alright though i didn't really get all of it. When I die, look here. On April 06 2013 10:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
I still have a lot of trouble with the idea that there are people we can just 'let do their thing' and if anyone actually suspects them before that point it's scummy. I can't see myself ever getting used to that idea.
On April 07 2013 03:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Personally all the business with Oats/DP/iamp/whoever just seems to me like townies going at townies. DP seems very town to me sepcifically.
In this game I think scum are much more likely to be in the lurky category. Prplhz and Ace/Axle? Tunkeg's case didnt' do much for me. Some of his points weren't scumtells (paragraph 1) and others were misrepresenting what happened in the thread (paragraphs 2,3,4). My only gripe with WoS is his generally low activity before he had like 6 votes but overall I'm still thinking town and I wouldn't be happy lynching him today.
prplh'z vote on WoS reminded me of his unabashed pile-on onto Forumite D1 in Dwarf Mini. He still has hardly done anything and I'd be alright with lynching him today. But seeing as we have no time limit, I'd still like to hear more from him before hanging him. @marv I was confused by your refusal to lynch prplhz today, because the only two games I've read with you and prplhz on D1 (Dwarf Mini and that game you were mayor), prplhz played similarly to this game, you voted him, and he was scum. What's different about this game that makes him a bad lynch?
Palmar, not getting lynched today is one of my top priorities, so I'd be interested in having some discussion with you and hopefully help you see the light. What do you want me to address? Also I think I owe Axle an answer to something. Going back through his filter now. Wtf what is this post that PUSHES NOTHING. Its REACTIVE not proactive. Scum are reactive. Town are proactive. He talks about WoS in LENGTH and defends him for no bloody reason when it was clear that he was not very close to being lynched. ##Vote Sci
Wagon on marv is stupid. Why is he scum? ALL THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR HIM? Im assuming Palmar's is a pressure vote but the rest, Im not so sure. @Oats I didn't see anything that I thought was worth responding to. You added to your case on me with some points which I thought were clearly not very good. + Show Spoiler +On April 06 2013 23:56 Oatsmaster wrote:Time to hammer Scib INTO THE GROUND. or rope in this case. Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 05:58 sciberbia wrote:Alright marv let's talk about Oats. I went through the first few pages of his town filter from Red Team, and here is what I found significant: - He often asked other people for reads. He does that this game too. Minor townie point.
- He doesn't seem too concerned with what other people think of him. This means my previous point about him trying to make a safe entry to the thread isn't all that valid. I don't think Oats is the type of person who would be that concerned about it as either alignment.
- Doesn't make any pointless criticisms of other players, which he does do a bit this game
- One of my favorite qualities in comparing filters is how "on point" the players posts are. Is he posting just to post, or are his posts right in line with the big issues in the thread? In his red team filter, his posts seem very on point. They all have clear purpose, and go somewhere. I see significantly more "out there" posts in his filter this game.
Also, I missed this before, but either he somehow misunderstood what I was saying, or this part of his case against me is quite a reach. Want to ask him about it, but he's apparently gone for 16+ hours. + Show Spoiler +On April 06 2013 01:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
The questions are not even meant to elicit a proper response, they are questions to try and get the subject, in this case, marv angry and DISRUPT the thread like BH. When this is his only contribution, Its looking really bad.
Overall, reading his previous filter hasn't changed my read on him. I'm still leaning scum. I assume you disagree based on your telling me to read his previous filter. Can you explain why? This 'analysis' is mostly summary and I dont see ANYTHING of the sciberia that was nk'ed early in THE GAME. Show nested quote +[*] One of my favorite qualities in comparing filters is how "on point" the players posts are. Is he posting just to post, or are his posts right in line with the big issues in the thread? In his red team filter, his posts seem very on point. They all have clear purpose, and go somewhere. I see significantly more "out there" posts in his filter this game.
Especially this, it feels like the 'criteria' that iGrok had in MTG2 where you fit posts into slots. (iGrok was scum btw) He also didnt bother to check his meta read against any other games that I played. He has had a low impact in the thread so far and again, doesnt feel like the town sciberia im used to seeing. And I do remember expanding on my thoughts on WoS because you and marv had an issue with them. I disagree that WoS was not close to being lynched. Marv and Palmar agreed that he was scummy. IMO that put him in DANGER territory. Also, there was some talk about a scib/WoS connection, so I thought it would be good to make it clear where I stood on WoS and why my previous posts were so 'nice' about him. I had not zero not one but two townie motivations for sharing that townread. Yes I was catching up with the thread. Hence I was reacting to the things in the thread that I was reading. I don't know why this is a problem. I'm "reacting" to your most recent post right now. It doesn't make me scum. Oats, all bravado aside, on a scale from 0% to 100% how confident are you that I am scum?
Marv and Palmar unvoted WoS BEFORE you made that post
IIRC
Explaining townreads in full detail IMO isnt a townie move. How confident are you that WoS is town?
Oats, all bravado aside, on a scale from 0% to 100% how confident are you that I am scum?
close to 100%.
You arent scumhunting.
You dont want to find out who is scum.
You avoided pissing anyone off(joke k DP)
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On April 07 2013 15:40 sciberbia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 15:21 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 07 2013 15:10 sciberbia wrote:
marv has seen me play a lot, and I don't think my play this game has been that different from other games where I've been town. Marv should know that I like posting fluffy setup stuff as town, and overall I think he should be able to read me as town, or at the very least not have a scumread. But I suppose it's possible we both just overestimate each other and that he is impatient and doesn't think like me.
Even before the wagon on me, I was leaning scum on marv based on some things earlier in the game. I think there's a decent chance he's scum.What?
Is this like the 'You should BE ABLE TO SEE THAT I AM TOWN', scumtell thing? Cause thats is absolute bullshit and inaccurate. Do you have ANY REASONS why marv is scum? or are you just bullshitting? The one above ISNT. Also the "YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT OATS IS TOWN" scumtell is pretty much the exact scumtell marv was using on me. Do you think that was bullshit as well?
Yes yes I think that is bullshit as well.
However Marv is sleeping and you arent.
Right ok so the main reason you think that marv is scum is because he thinks you are scum because you shouldve read me as town.
RIGHT.
And Palmar did that to marv as well.
So is Palmar scum too? Or is it just marv?
1 reason alone does not make someone scum.
DP response to my response on your case please.
You are IGNORING whatever I said.
good job I say, GOOD JOB.
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On April 07 2013 16:36 DarthPunk wrote:
Oats I told you I was done with you. I am not getting into a flame war with you, though it seems that is what you are trying with everyone.
k cool .
Thats an easy way to back down from anything ever.
Any reads? I assume you changed your mind about me but you dont want to 180 in thread.
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(totally insinuating that DP is scum ^^)
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Lets talk about marv.
1 town tell I have on him is that he defends me to the hilt.
Then again I told him that last game so maybe he took it into account.
HOWEVER, I think that he looks really involved with the game and he cares about who he wants to lynch
WoS in particular.
Thoughts everybody?
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So many questions axle.
Opinions/reads on marv and Sci.
GOOO
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I said ME specifically not bad townie.(im a good townie  )
In themed. He was scum, and let BH lynch me.
Every other game, he has rolled town and defended me.
I think that Marv respects and therefore sheeps palmar.
Do you sheep dudes? Why not marv?
Well if Marv was scum and WoS is town(current thinking cause I agree with Palmar's facts that it was a townie response to dude under pressure). Why did he unvote WoS? Why not just hammer the dude?
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Hmm.
That is interesting.
What do you think of Tunkeg after his 'hammer' on WoS?
Tunkeg, do you think its more likely that you are right, or that Marv/Palmar/Ace is wrong?
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On April 07 2013 17:37 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 17:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hmm.
That is interesting.
What do you think of Tunkeg after his 'hammer' on WoS?
Tunkeg, do you think its more likely that you are right, or that Marv/Palmar/Ace is wrong? What kind of silly question is this?? Of course I think it is more likely that I am right. If not I wouldn't be keeping my vote on WoS right? I know why I want to lynch WoS, I don't know why they don't (What is their agenda? Aren't they seeing what I am? Is there something they see that I don't, etc etc). I cannot play this game and follow others judgement over my own.
The word is sheep.
Like how in the world are you seeing that WoS is scum after that? Its his first scum game if so, and I dont think he is that good.
How good were you in your first scum game?
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Palmar.
Glad to see you join us.
Who is scum then?
Ace?
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On April 07 2013 18:39 Palmar wrote:
I don't know. Maybe you?
Palmar confused.
Hmm.
Seems like town Palmar from what Ive seen.
You do this thing where you reevaluate shit after 24 hours or whatever right?
Is this the Red Team Palmar, or the useful Palmar?
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On April 07 2013 18:51 Palmar wrote:
red team palmar was pretty useful, I'd say?
haha
no.
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WoS,
On April 07 2013 05:12 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 05:11 Ace wrote:
I've been busy WoS. I actually don't think you should be lynched at the moment, as I think Oats is a far bigger distraction. Marv is just talking nonsense as always.
WoS since you're at L-2 right now don't hesitate to claim when the next person votes.I'm not gonna hammer you unless that situation resolves itself. For now tho:
##vote: Oatsmaster Claim what? I already did.
Where? Im confused/curious too.
(yeah im slow/not going in a straight line blablabla
yeah im blue hunting blablabla)
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So it was a joke.
Right.
Why do people make such bad jokes that dont make sense? WHY?
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On April 07 2013 19:23 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 19:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
So it was a joke.
Right.
Why do people make such bad jokes that dont make sense? WHY? He said it wasn't a joke.
So he thought that Ace was asking for his alignment?
Wait WHAT?
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oh no I wasnt talking about that
I was saying that WoS's response to Ace was a joke.
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So any thoughts on the random votes that were placed on you marv?
Also Im up for lynching
Sci
DP
Ace
(everyone who attacked me basically, looks like my hypothesis was wrong huh marv)
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This is not so good :/
Mostly I can find townreads.
Yeah, this game I have like 2 strong ones.
And a lotta nulls.
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