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On April 06 2013 23:29 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 23:25 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 06 2013 23:18 DarthPunk wrote:On April 06 2013 23:16 Oatsmaster wrote:Im back. Damn that was a long day. DP feels like personality DP and not town DP(whatever game) Iamp feels like town IAMP I SAID THAT ALREADY NOW SHEEP ME. + Show Spoiler + This is entirely unacceptable. This is basically  uhuh DP. Hypocrite. No. That is not good enough. You can't just give reads because you 'feel' something with no backup. That is unacceptable. You cannot give town reads because you 'feel' something that is entirely unacceptable. And now you are repeating something that obviously provoked me and caused me to trash the thread a bit beforehand. Now I am really wondering what it is that you have done, and why it makes you town. And reading your filter I really can't see anything.
Um I can give reads.
But im not pushing them you see.
I am creating a discussion point.
You are taking this EXTREMELY seriously. Why?
Also why did you wait for me to respond before posting this more logical piece instead of posting it earlier, rather than
'BULLSHIT I SAY, BULLSHIT'
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On April 06 2013 23:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 23:29 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 06 2013 23:27 marvellosity wrote:
Oats, the primary time I remember Ace as mafia is Wheel of Fortune, where he basically backed the obvious mislynches on the basis that they'd done scummy things (MrZentor, Bluelightz). He's not actually pushing an agenda in this game it doesn't seem, so I dunno what to think of him right now. Huh. Is this like the Palmar town read in Red where he was scum in my eyes but town in yours? No, it's like my current Ace read in Ego Mini Mafia ^_^
Is the Ace in THE GAME the typical town Ace?
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On April 06 2013 23:32 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 23:29 DarthPunk wrote:On April 06 2013 23:25 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 06 2013 23:18 DarthPunk wrote:On April 06 2013 23:16 Oatsmaster wrote:Im back. Damn that was a long day. DP feels like personality DP and not town DP(whatever game) Iamp feels like town IAMP I SAID THAT ALREADY NOW SHEEP ME. + Show Spoiler + This is entirely unacceptable. This is basically uhuh DP. Hypocrite. No. That is not good enough. You can't just give reads because you 'feel' something with no backup. That is unacceptable. You cannot give town reads because you 'feel' something that is entirely unacceptable. And now you are repeating something that obviously provoked me and caused me to trash the thread a bit beforehand. Now I am really wondering what it is that you have done, and why it makes you town. And reading your filter I really can't see anything. Um I can give reads. But im not pushing them you see. I am creating a discussion point. You are taking this EXTREMELY seriously. Why? Also why did you wait for me to respond before posting this more logical piece instead of posting it earlier, rather than 'BULLSHIT I SAY, BULLSHIT'
Because I didn't think I would have to explain to you why it was unacceptable. Obviously I did.
So you are giving out useless reads with no meaning behind them and no information for town and then not pushing them.
Cool story bro.
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On April 06 2013 23:32 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 23:29 marvellosity wrote:On April 06 2013 23:29 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 06 2013 23:27 marvellosity wrote:
Oats, the primary time I remember Ace as mafia is Wheel of Fortune, where he basically backed the obvious mislynches on the basis that they'd done scummy things (MrZentor, Bluelightz). He's not actually pushing an agenda in this game it doesn't seem, so I dunno what to think of him right now. Huh. Is this like the Palmar town read in Red where he was scum in my eyes but town in yours? No, it's like my current Ace read in Ego Mini Mafia ^_^ Is the Ace in THE GAME the typical town Ace?
I'm not *that* familiar with Ace's play. From what I know he doesn't normally post that much. I got a towntell from him in Paranoia that was correct, but I didn't get any towntells from him in The Game.
If he's mafia, then he's happy with what Palmar and I are pushing (WoS, sciberbia) because he's not interfering. I can't really say anything much stronger on the subject right now.
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I think I might start enacting this policy:
On April 06 2013 00:20 Palmar wrote:
honestly:
DP: NOT READING YOUR POSTS LOL
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On April 06 2013 23:33 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 23:32 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 06 2013 23:29 DarthPunk wrote:On April 06 2013 23:25 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 06 2013 23:18 DarthPunk wrote:On April 06 2013 23:16 Oatsmaster wrote:Im back. Damn that was a long day. DP feels like personality DP and not town DP(whatever game) Iamp feels like town IAMP I SAID THAT ALREADY NOW SHEEP ME. + Show Spoiler + This is entirely unacceptable. This is basically uhuh DP. Hypocrite. No. That is not good enough. You can't just give reads because you 'feel' something with no backup. That is unacceptable. You cannot give town reads because you 'feel' something that is entirely unacceptable. And now you are repeating something that obviously provoked me and caused me to trash the thread a bit beforehand. Now I am really wondering what it is that you have done, and why it makes you town. And reading your filter I really can't see anything. Um I can give reads. But im not pushing them you see. I am creating a discussion point. You are taking this EXTREMELY seriously. Why? Also why did you wait for me to respond before posting this more logical piece instead of posting it earlier, rather than 'BULLSHIT I SAY, BULLSHIT' Because I didn't think I would have to explain to you why it was unacceptable. Obviously I did. So you are giving out useless reads with no meaning behind them and no information for town and then not pushing them. Cool story bro.
Im getting the feeling that you are only caring because I think that you are scummy.
As opposed to the actual content of my post.
What is different about Iamp this game rather than last game DP for you to want to lynch him SO FUCKING HARD?
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Hey guys. I just have a few minutes.
Axle, I don't have any questions for you. I don't think anything you posted was scummy.
Palmar/marv you are wrong about my alignment. I'm busy today but in 7 or 8 hours from now I can sit down and have a chat.
I also don't know why you think I'm scum with WoS. I'm thinking town on WoS if you couldn't tell from my posts earlier. For lack of time, I'll just post my notes:
2) WaveofShadow
- claims town in first post when he knows it may draw attention
- draws attention by making multi-line posts and not spamming
- in and out of thread
- huge-ass post for no reason
- conspiracy theory (?) with Axle and Rayn
- "you got me" post about his vote on Ace
- philosophical problem with Ace/prplhz
CONCLUSION: thinking town
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Time to hammer Scib
INTO THE GROUND.
or rope in this case.
On April 06 2013 05:58 sciberbia wrote:Alright marv let's talk about Oats. I went through the first few pages of his town filter from Red Team, and here is what I found significant: - He often asked other people for reads. He does that this game too. Minor townie point.
- He doesn't seem too concerned with what other people think of him. This means my previous point about him trying to make a safe entry to the thread isn't all that valid. I don't think Oats is the type of person who would be that concerned about it as either alignment.
- Doesn't make any pointless criticisms of other players, which he does do a bit this game
- One of my favorite qualities in comparing filters is how "on point" the players posts are. Is he posting just to post, or are his posts right in line with the big issues in the thread? In his red team filter, his posts seem very on point. They all have clear purpose, and go somewhere. I see significantly more "out there" posts in his filter this game.
Also, I missed this before, but either he somehow misunderstood what I was saying, or this part of his case against me is quite a reach. Want to ask him about it, but he's apparently gone for 16+ hours. + Show Spoiler +On April 06 2013 01:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
The questions are not even meant to elicit a proper response, they are questions to try and get the subject, in this case, marv angry and DISRUPT the thread like BH. When this is his only contribution, Its looking really bad.
Overall, reading his previous filter hasn't changed my read on him. I'm still leaning scum. I assume you disagree based on your telling me to read his previous filter. Can you explain why?
This 'analysis' is mostly summary and I dont see ANYTHING of the sciberia that was nk'ed early in THE GAME.
[*] One of my favorite qualities in comparing filters is how "on point" the players posts are. Is he posting just to post, or are his posts right in line with the big issues in the thread? In his red team filter, his posts seem very on point. They all have clear purpose, and go somewhere. I see significantly more "out there" posts in his filter this game.
Especially this, it feels like the 'criteria' that iGrok had in MTG2 where you fit posts into slots. (iGrok was scum btw)
He also didnt bother to check his meta read against any other games that I played.
He has had a low impact in the thread so far and again, doesnt feel like the town sciberia im used to seeing.
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I don't like oates this game. Apart from the trolling/shit posts in his filter most of his contributions come from an extremely wishy-washy IAMP read.
Part 1: The Iamp mess.
On April 05 2013 19:19 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 17:58 Palmar wrote:
what do you think of sciberbia and iamperfection Oats?
Iamp is being useless and his spam was contained in a very short period of time. Probably due to time constrains and sleep though. Feels like town Iamp especially with irritation with rayn for being an idiot. AFAIK he hasnt rolled scum in forever so I dont see meta as being very useful. So marv is basically useless in this case.
Here is the beginning of his entirely odd read of IAMP. He is scummy trait one and two but probably town.
On April 05 2013 21:58 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 21:56 iamperfection wrote:
i would kill all lurkers everywhere ever if i could. just saying. Every game(mini) Ive seen someone say this, they are scum. #justsaying
Here he is scum potentially
On April 05 2013 22:00 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 21:59 iamperfection wrote:On April 05 2013 21:55 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 05 2013 21:50 iamperfection wrote:On April 05 2013 21:48 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 05 2013 21:42 iamperfection wrote:On April 05 2013 20:27 marvellosity wrote:On April 05 2013 17:21 Palmar wrote:
Alright time to see what's going on in the thread.
@marv: on a scale of 1-10 how certain are you that I'm town?
@Oats: go yell at someone please. I have a slight townread on you, dunno how that translates into 1-10. Looks like I'm not gonna get Ace lynched today... *serious hat* ##Unvote why does it look like ace isnt get lynched? what has he done to make you think he is not scum? Why are you being passive? Why are you not pushing for what you want? why am i forced to ask these questions? are you scum? Reads? Or is Ace your scum read for being Ace? does nobody read my fucking posts i said ace is scum because he bothered to chime in but has no scum hunted or added to the discussion at all. Lazy marv is scum marv if he isn't trying to get what he wants he looks scum to me. Chill out mr grumpy pants  What is different about Ace's town games in this game Iamp? im not going to entertain a meta argument for what ace has done. - Pointless filler posts that add nothing to the discussion - no posts that look like they are trying to figure out other peoples alignments - general lurking if that's not scum motivated i dont know what is. Again you do this too sometimes and you arent scum when you do this. CONVINCE ME.
Then he asks IAMP his previous town then scum read to convince him he is town.
On April 05 2013 22:04 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 22:01 iamperfection wrote:On April 05 2013 22:00 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 05 2013 21:59 iamperfection wrote:On April 05 2013 21:55 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 05 2013 21:50 iamperfection wrote:On April 05 2013 21:48 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 05 2013 21:42 iamperfection wrote:On April 05 2013 20:27 marvellosity wrote:On April 05 2013 17:21 Palmar wrote:
Alright time to see what's going on in the thread.
@marv: on a scale of 1-10 how certain are you that I'm town?
@Oats: go yell at someone please. I have a slight townread on you, dunno how that translates into 1-10. Looks like I'm not gonna get Ace lynched today... *serious hat* ##Unvote why does it look like ace isnt get lynched? what has he done to make you think he is not scum? Why are you being passive? Why are you not pushing for what you want? why am i forced to ask these questions? are you scum? Reads? Or is Ace your scum read for being Ace? does nobody read my fucking posts i said ace is scum because he bothered to chime in but has no scum hunted or added to the discussion at all. Lazy marv is scum marv if he isn't trying to get what he wants he looks scum to me. Chill out mr grumpy pants What is different about Ace's town games in this game Iamp? im not going to entertain a meta argument for what ace has done. - Pointless filler posts that add nothing to the discussion - no posts that look like they are trying to figure out other peoples alignments - general lurking if that's not scum motivated i dont know what is. Again you do this too sometimes and you arent scum when you do this. CONVINCE ME. wtf are you looking for you don't need a super long case to see why ace is scum. how about my old standby he does not give a shit about town. that good enough Damn. I was hoping for a paragraph out of you. Its like bigfoot. Rumored to exist but NEVER BEEN SEEN.
Another dig at Iamperfection who he has most recently called scum and whom Oats is waiting to be convinced on.
On April 05 2013 22:14 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 22:12 Palmar wrote:
marv was lazy as town last time I played with him, are you just trying to lynch anyone?
##vote iamperfection what the hell palmar. WHAT IN THE WORLD DO YOU SEE IN IAMPS PLAY THAT MAKES HIM SCUM AND NOT how iamp normally is?
And here is the gold. 'What the hell palmar' screams oates in all caps. Why are you voting for obviously town IAMP despite my previous read being scum rather than town.
On April 05 2013 22:51 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 22:50 iamperfection wrote:On April 05 2013 22:48 marvellosity wrote:
Why don't you tell me why you're pushing a vet who's known to do jack shit on Day 1 in every game ever? Given you're so keen to swing the meta club at me, after all. quicker people stop being useless the better don't care what their name is. You dont use meta or you do use meta? It cant be one or the other. Ace you said is scummy FUCK META Marv you said is scummy CAUSE META. WHICH IS IT?
and then back to attacking IAMP and his arguments despite typing in all caps that Iamp was townie to plamar.
Part 2: The non push on sciberbia.
Oats has made one case all game. It was made after he was asked to look into this person and it consists of this.
On April 05 2013 19:24 Oatsmaster wrote:He starts with random setup speculation with a really really fucking obvious answer if he even followed vaguely any instant majority lynch game. Yeah all setup speculation and trying to justify his argument, 'to start discussion' YEAH you dont do that with such a bad question. It looked like a setup and for him to look active with easy stuff to post. Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 09:39 sciberbia wrote:On April 05 2013 09:33 marvellosity wrote:
I'm somewhat concerned that Palmar gave a serious reason for not wanting to vote Ace. I don't follow your logic. You think Palmar is scum because he isn't trolling? On April 05 2013 09:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 05 2013 09:33 marvellosity wrote:
I'm somewhat concerned that Palmar gave a serious reason for not wanting to vote Ace. Wanna kill WoS? Why are you not concerned into this matter rather than Palmar/Ace? Why don't you explain why you want to kill WoS.. Yeah sniping marv and asking really 'snipy' questions. Feeling off right now, leaning scum on him ##Vote: Sci
This is the worst case in the world for day three or day two or any day that is not day one.
He is voting him based on sciberbia speculating setup at the beginning of the game
That would be fine if that was a start of game discussion vote or whatever but it is not. And this one 'cases' has been clung to for the rest of the day by oats.
although his vote has been parked there since that time he has not pushed his lynch or provided anything at all to add to this shitty start of game 'case'
In fact. He doersn;t even MENTION sciberbia again until Iamp asks him.
On April 06 2013 00:03 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 23:58 iamperfection wrote:
just for clarification what are your reads oats.. Scum on Sci i have townreads I dont want to disclose.
On April 06 2013 00:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Read on Sciberia everybody? Why do you not want to lynch him everyone who doesnt want to lynch him?
He is hanging on to his shitty day one case and not providing anything to back it up.
When marv correctly asks WHY? we want to lynch sciberbia. He copy pastes the same shitty day one case.
On April 06 2013 01:22 Oatsmaster wrote:By your command Marv. This is why I want to lynch scib Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 19:24 Oatsmaster wrote:EBWOP: Forgot to put in Sci Read his filter now He starts with random setup speculation with a really really fucking obvious answer if he even followed vaguely any instant majority lynch game. Yeah all setup speculation and trying to justify his argument, 'to start discussion' YEAH you dont do that with such a bad question. It looked like a setup and for him to look active with easy stuff to post. On April 05 2013 09:39 sciberbia wrote:On April 05 2013 09:33 marvellosity wrote:
I'm somewhat concerned that Palmar gave a serious reason for not wanting to vote Ace. I don't follow your logic. You think Palmar is scum because he isn't trolling? On April 05 2013 09:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 05 2013 09:33 marvellosity wrote:
I'm somewhat concerned that Palmar gave a serious reason for not wanting to vote Ace. Wanna kill WoS? Why are you not concerned into this matter rather than Palmar/Ace? Why don't you explain why you want to kill WoS.. Yeah sniping marv and asking really 'snipy' questions. Feeling off right now, leaning scum on him ##Vote: SciSo Palmar any initial reads?
He has yet to give any compelling reasons or arguments for town to lynch sciberbia and has relied on a day one case based on a pressure vote as his case to sit on all game. DESPITE being somewhat active he has done little to push his lynch unless prompted. Any other mention of sciberbia is a throwaway line and he DOES NOT PUSH AT ALL OR FURTHER HIS NUMBER ONE SCUM READ AND VOTE OF THE ENTIRE GAME.
Oats is scum. Discuss.
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On April 06 2013 23:54 sciberbia wrote:
Hey guys. I just have a few minutes.
Axle, I don't have any questions for you. I don't think anything you posted was scummy.
Palmar/marv you are wrong about my alignment. I'm busy today but in 7 or 8 hours from now I can sit down and have a chat.
I also don't know why you think I'm scum with WoS. I'm thinking town on WoS if you couldn't tell from my posts earlier. For lack of time, I'll just post my notes:
2) WaveofShadow
- claims town in first post when he knows it may draw attention
- draws attention by making multi-line posts and not spamming
- in and out of thread
- huge-ass post for no reason
- conspiracy theory (?) with Axle and Rayn
- "you got me" post about his vote on Ace
- philosophical problem with Ace/prplhz
CONCLUSION: thinking town
Oh hey scib.
Why this random ass townread on WoS?
Why?
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On April 06 2013 23:37 marvellosity wrote:I think I might start enacting this policy:
Whatever dude. I am actually trying and my posts are not idiotic like you are making them out to be. So quit it please.
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On April 06 2013 23:54 sciberbia wrote:
2) WaveofShadow
- claims town in first post when he knows it may draw attention
- draws attention by making multi-line posts and not spamming
- in and out of thread
- huge-ass post for no reason
- conspiracy theory (?) with Axle and Rayn
- "you got me" post about his vote on Ace
- philosophical problem with Ace/prplhz
CONCLUSION: thinking town
Literally none of these are reasons to think he's town. Jeez.
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On April 06 2013 23:59 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 23:37 marvellosity wrote:I think I might start enacting this policy: On April 06 2013 00:20 Palmar wrote:
honestly:
DP: NOT READING YOUR POSTS LOL
Whatever dude. I am actually trying and my posts are not idiotic like you are making them out to be. So quit it please.
Do you have any reads other than Iamp?
Can you answer my question on Iamp please? (Im asking nicely this time, next time maybe not)
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On April 07 2013 00:02 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 23:59 DarthPunk wrote:On April 06 2013 23:37 marvellosity wrote:I think I might start enacting this policy: On April 06 2013 00:20 Palmar wrote:
honestly:
DP: NOT READING YOUR POSTS LOL
Whatever dude. I am actually trying and my posts are not idiotic like you are making them out to be. So quit it please. Do you have any reads other than Iamp?Can you answer my question on Iamp please? (Im asking nicely this time, next time maybe not)
Lol read the case that is 3 posts up from this one. Or are you just trying to ignore it?
Oh and the reason I wanted to lynch Perfection today is because he was being a jerk. And I could not see a town reason to be such a jerk. But mainly because I was upset at him. That was pretty obvious.
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Unvote: Iamperfection
Vote: Oatsmaster
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im gonna say dp is town the frustration seems sincere and wanting one's voice to be heard is a townie trait.
not feeling an oats lynch though
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DarthPunk since you are here, what is your view on WoS and sci?
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I can expand.
In the last game I played with WoS, there was some deal made about people claiming town, and zarepath was all like claims town --> scummy. So I don't think WoS would be especially keen to claim town, unless he was genuinely extremely relieved to roll town. I don't think he would do that as scum.
Everyone else was trolling and WoS started writing these huge-ass posts. I think this also leaves him open to attack and I don't see why he would do it as scum.
Conspiracy theories are very townie imo. Like, it was a pretty unlikely theory. Rayn and Axle both scum and both misinterpreted WoS's posts together in the scum QT? I'm not even sure that was it. But it shows the paranoid mind of a townie.
I thought his explanation of his Ace vote was reasonable.
And I think that being frustrated with people not doing anything is very typical of a townie. And he seemed genuinely frustrated.
Do you disagree with these points marv?
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Didnt see that.
Scib didnt post anything in the period I was on last night. Get your details right.
So when marv asked me why I thought Scib was scum, NOTHING CHANGED.
Damn you missed SO much in my filter DP.
Intentionally? Or not?
Why is my flipflopping on Iamp scummy DP?
Also with the slightest bit of pressure, IE asking you to explain difference between town Iamp and this one. YOU DROP IT?
What DP?
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