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marvellosity

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April 07 2013 22:40 GMT

#1084

On April 08 2013 07:37 DarthPunk wrote:

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But I will respond with Z-Boson lovefest game anyway.

You mean by FAR my most active game of mafia ever, where I only had just over 5 pages of filter at the end of Day 1, and I have 10 here?

Cool story bro.

marvellosity

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April 07 2013 22:40 GMT

#1085

On April 08 2013 07:39 DarthPunk wrote:

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Yep and then maybe he would learn the most important part of playing town. To establish your townieness and foster a pro-town environment.

He does establish his townieness, if I can get it 100% then so can other people.

marvellosity

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April 07 2013 22:42 GMT

#1088

On April 08 2013 07:41 DarthPunk wrote:

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this is about double the length of a standard day one. Oh. Look at that.

I don't know how you read 22 hours longer as double the length, plus there are 4 less players. Your heuristic is shit.

You call activity a tried and true metric, but if you're going by activity alone I'm monumentally likely to be town.

marvellosity

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April 07 2013 22:42 GMT

#1089

Anyways I'm gonna go have a poke around at Axle like I promised.

marvellosity

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April 07 2013 22:45 GMT

#1092

It's not even whether I agree or disagree with the activity metric, it's about the fact that you apparently place great stock in it, but want to completely ignore it when it comes to me. I don't understand this hypocrisy.

marvellosity

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April 07 2013 22:49 GMT

#1097

Where do I keep claiming I'm good at this game?

I said I'm wrong less than DP and that's about all I can remember.

Can you provide examples please, Ace?

marvellosity

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April 07 2013 22:54 GMT

#1103

On April 08 2013 07:52 DarthPunk wrote:

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That is like the least important part of the entire post. Just lynch axle please.

It's important if he's just bullshitting out of thin air. You need to understand this. Lynch deadline is 3 hours away.

marvellosity

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April 07 2013 22:55 GMT

#1104

On April 08 2013 07:54 marvellosity wrote:

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It's important if he's just bullshitting out of thin air. You need to understand this. Lynch deadline is 3 hours away.

Also how the fuck is talking about the reads of the leading lynch candidate not important?

marvellosity

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April 07 2013 23:01 GMT

#1109

On April 08 2013 07:59 Ace wrote:

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you're right marv, that's just me being silly and seeing something that isn't there. My bad.

:/

Why are you playing nicey-nicey with me when you've been antagonising me all game? I don't get it :<

marvellosity

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April 07 2013 23:06 GMT

#1116

On April 08 2013 06:41 sciberbia wrote:

marv why are you leaning town on axle? Do you not find any of these points concerning:

hopped onto my wagon with some meh reasoning
he hopped off as a result of some small explanation I gave, and I got the feeling he only backed off because my wagon was no longer the 'in' thing
he has almost exclusively talked to and about only myself and WoS, and on top of that, it's all been about just 1 post from WoS early in the game. He hasn't been partaking in the discussion of other big issues in the thread.
he is supposedly more active as town

Here's what I jotted down while I was going through axle's filter:

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Axle notes:

On April 05 2013 13:49 AxleGreaser wrote:
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I am curious. I don't yet have any meta on you apart from memory...
Can you direct me to any game in which you ##FOS a player?
Id like to see under what conditions you normally do that?

##Fos Palmar

I like this. Palmar was actually joking and he does never FoS. Judging by his comments about coming pre-armed into Noir, I think Axle knows this and has never seen him do this. It's an interesting thought and one I like.

On April 07 2013 00:40 AxleGreaser wrote:

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Even though I think it was Marv that suggested it,
I am not sure why WoS being scum would make you scum.
It could do, but that is a preflip association case.

My problem is even if WoS is town, scum know who is town and know they can defend them for the towny cred if they get flipped.

##vote Sciberbia

I don't understand this vote on sciberbia. Where did it come from? I don't see the reasoning.

On April 07 2013 00:58 AxleGreaser wrote:
Yeah sorry, it was clear in my head, just not the thread.

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On April 07 2013 00:40 AxleGreaser wrote:

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back here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18217152

I asked scrib some questions about how he viewed WoS and why scrib interpreted certain posts in certain ways.

Specifically i was concerned that Scrib had been just assuming WoS was town for some reason, and not wondering why WoS had been posting stuff or wondering what WoS had been thinking was good reason for posting stuff.
To me there appeared to be a significant lack of suspicion of WoS intentions.

This latest post, shows a number of reasons that scrib thinks WoS is town, to me none of them are consistent with a townie mindset or level of suspicion.

We are not yet at Hammer time, I don't intend to make hammer case.
I feel it deserves another vote.

And yet these reasons actually make plenty of sense.

Carrying on through page 1 of Axle's filter, he seems to find WoS suspicious for his actions, but apparently sciberbia more suspicious for his reaction to WoS's actions.

The thing is, he didn't hammer WoS when he had the chance. It was L-1 and he could have voted for him. Why didn't he?

On April 07 2013 10:43 AxleGreaser wrote:

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Some people determine alignment by ......... , I ask questions an listen to answers or the lack of them.

How are you trying to determine alignment?

I like this for reasons I can't put my finger on.

On April 07 2013 13:52 AxleGreaser wrote:

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On April 07 2013 09:29 sciberbia wrote:
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On April 07 2013 09:16 AxleGreaser wrote:

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The distinctions I was making in this post
were fine distinctions.

I was indeed 'reaching' for the idea that perhaps you were not considering why/ (what intention)/ (what thought)
was behind and motivated WoS This post

My post was about WoS's towny intentions. (dropping emotive stuff and leaving, i found hard to put a towny intention on)

That you have still not apparently gone back and considered, why WoS made that post that I was initially concerned about, is to me concerning.

In the post above, you give what I think I can loosely describe as bunch of heuristics, do this and your scum, don't do this and your not. What I don't see there is you considering the purpose of the actions.

I am sorry, I just found where you did...?

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If I misinterpreted his intentions.... (as looking for someone to Lynch... or commenting on characteristics of people that could make them someone to Lynch, or ..)

How did you interpret the intention of this Post?

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In particular what did the graphic visual nature, do but inspire further emotive knee jerk posts?

BTW writing this post Started before Scribs here and while stuff seems to be happening around the WoS Lynch
for me that does not effect whether or not Scrib was considering why WoS did things.

@Axle
With every post I analyze I look at look at possible townie and mafia intentions behind it. I thought about WoS's post right after I read it. I'm sorry that I did not explain earlier but I was busy today.

To explain why I said you misinterpreted his post:
I think WoS gave no alignment read of rayn at all in the post you quoted. But you asked him

On April 05 2013 13:49 AxleGreaser wrote:
Was there any reason you thought we should lynch a headless chook?

This implies that you thought WoS was personally showing interest in lynching rayn where I maintain that he wasn't. Hence why I said you misinterpreted his post.

That is fine, so when you did "With every post I analyze I look at look at possible townie and mafia intentions behind it." analyse WoS's post, what possible townie intention did you see behind it? Did the townie intention you saw to that post not include WoS (at the very least) recently deciding on whether or not to "think" about Lynching Rayn, but had come down so nearly on the "not yet, do something else now side" that he sought a second opinion?

If I had been recently thinking (should I / shouldn't I) pursue Rayn as scum(due to the posting style), and I got asked "Was there any reason you thought we should lynch a headless chook?" Then as WoS I could have, and would have, answered the question, I would also probably indicate that words had just been seemingly put in my mouth and that while i had recently been onsidering that option... blah blah.... That was the reason I believe I also provided my answer to the question. That the presence of the(an) answer did not even trigger recognition (easier than recall [www.ehow.com/info_7754397_recall-vs-recognition.html ] ) memory of "Oh yeah I was just thinking that" indicates to me he quite probably had not recently considered how Lynchworthy posting like that was. He had thus handed me what he considered to be an anchor.

I think this topic is about done. I believe I understand why you said pretty much all of what you did.

Doesnt make you town, probably not my best Lynch though... for now...

##unvote Sciberbia

Backs off sciberbia in what seems to be a reasonable way.

He drops his pursuit of sciberbia and starts to pursue WoS. This seems consistent with how he earlier viewed WoS, as suspicious with his behaviour.

Generally speaking Axle is quite focused in his targets as town, in Noir he seemed to focus in hard on Hopeless despite other things being discussed in the thread.

marvellosity

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April 07 2013 23:08 GMT

#1120

Palmar - I need you to be around because I really want to talk to you about something.

marvellosity

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April 07 2013 23:10 GMT

#1122

what a fucking noob.

marvellosity

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April 07 2013 23:13 GMT

#1125

I still want to lynch Ace, but for reasons I don't think any of you are going to like

marvellosity

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April 07 2013 23:14 GMT

#1127

No, it means I think I'm better than everyone else :D (literally couldn't help it)

marvellosity

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April 07 2013 23:20 GMT

#1131

On April 08 2013 08:19 Ace wrote:

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hey, I set you up for that one bitch <3

marvellosity

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April 07 2013 23:24 GMT

#1136

On April 08 2013 08:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Does anyone else think marv's notes on Axle are kinda... terrible?

Oh I'm sorry.

I forgot how much of a shining beacon of helpfulness you'd been this game.

Accept my sincere apologies for creating substandard notes.

Honestly, I prostrate myself before you. You are a scumhunter extraordinaire and your posts like "lol lynch him his filter lol" should be a lesson in how to play mafia.

marvellosity

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April 07 2013 23:34 GMT

#1138

Anyways I'm gonna play some SC2 while things happen or don't happen here.

Palmar - when you're back. Please give me your thoughts on Ace since he came back to the thread tonight.

marvellosity

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April 07 2013 23:55 GMT

#1157

I think Ace is mafia because he's come into the thread all nicey-nicey tonight when he's up for the lynch when he's been completely abrasive and dismissive for the rest of the game.

When Ace is getting attacked as town he tells people to go fuck themselves and shit like that. Here's he's specifically showing the thread exactly what they want to see.

Vote Ace.