Well I'm still not 100% on my theory about Obzy, Rainbows and JarJar. But I'm a bit more confident now. I'd still like jarjar to show up. I wish he had shown up a while ago. Then other people could get reads on him before the night.

jrkirby

United States1510 Posts

April 07 2013 00:36 GMT

#433

Well if there's a real vigilante out there, and you're not rainbows: KILL RAINBOWS.

jrkirby

United States1510 Posts

April 07 2013 00:48 GMT

#434

If Mafia and Vigilante both killed someone different, we know who each group killed, right?

jrkirby

United States1510 Posts

April 07 2013 01:40 GMT

#439

So TRN, what are you thinking now? What are your reads? Mine haven't changed, and probably won't until morning.

jrkirby

United States1510 Posts

April 07 2013 17:02 GMT

#457

If rainbows dies and flips scum tonight I want to go for obzy. If he lives and gets "roleblocked" I really have to think things through again. For someone as crazy as him, it's he might even be VT and claimed Vigilante. Yes there might not be vigilante, but did he really choose to take that risk? If there is vigilante, and scum don't get really lucky with the roleblock, he's going to die tonight. I would kill him if I were vigilante.

jrkirby

United States1510 Posts

April 07 2013 17:43 GMT

#461

I hate all these shitty lurkers. I don't wanna lynch em cause... some of em are town. but I hate em cause they're terrible town.

jrkirby

United States1510 Posts

April 07 2013 22:16 GMT

#464

All my reads depend on whether rainbows is alive after the end of the night and how many people die. When would rainbows be modkilled if he never shows up?

jrkirby

United States1510 Posts

April 07 2013 23:53 GMT

#472

If rainbows survives the night I have a lot more faith in him. If he was lying about his claim, I doubt he'll survive. There might not be a vigilante, but I'm going to bet that there is. If it was a false claim, he might as well have claimed doctor, because what's the real doctor going to do? If they counter claim, it's just one guy's word against another's. But vigilante is different. Since he claimed vigilante, the real vigilante will kill him tonight if he was lying and there is one (I'm betting/hoping there is one). The thing I'd really hate is for him and another guy to die tonight, both flipping VT. That would be the absolute worst.

jrkirby

United States1510 Posts

April 08 2013 00:14 GMT

#475

Damn. Rainbows is still alive. Either he's actually vigilante or there is no vigilante.

jrkirby

United States1510 Posts

April 08 2013 00:28 GMT

#479

I guess my reads now are smancer, jarjar, and fishgle.

jrkirby

United States1510 Posts

April 08 2013 00:42 GMT

#481

Because it doesn't matter. They just needed to kill some town. Any town that wouldn't lead back to them.

jrkirby

United States1510 Posts

April 08 2013 00:58 GMT

#483

yup. And fuck rainbows. he's so so so stupid. And he better get back here. I'm already pissed. He's thrown away our vigilante (by claiming) and he's been missing for forever. I almost wouldn't be surprised if scum don't have roleblocker and Rainbows was just afk for 24 hours.

jrkirby

United States1510 Posts

April 08 2013 01:03 GMT

#485

It would tell you that you were roleblocked, but not by whom.

jrkirby

United States1510 Posts

April 08 2013 01:15 GMT

#487

Ah, I see what you're saying. RAINBOWS GET BACK IN HERE AND TELL US IF YOU WERE ROLEBLOCKED!

jrkirby

United States1510 Posts

April 08 2013 04:28 GMT

#490

You're back. Good. Have you read up with the thread yet? What are your reads?

jrkirby

United States1510 Posts

April 08 2013 04:54 GMT

#492

I trust you mostly since you're alive. If you were lying you probably wouldn't be. And by trust I mean I think you're vigilante. I still don't think you're smart. One more question though. Why didn't you post all night long?

I just read raven's filter again... and you might have something on him. Maybe. What I really don't like is his "confusion" about who had the votes on them at the end of day 1. Lets see what other people have to say.

And according to jarjar he'll be around tomorrow. Hopefully now he'll post more than 5 times. I still don't trust him, but I don't know if he'd make a good day 2 lynch. There might be much better cases by then.

Also, I wouldn't have wanted to lynch you day 1 even if you hadn't claimed vigi.

jrkirby

United States1510 Posts

April 08 2013 15:36 GMT

#504

Why would they fake a RB on their own? That's just stupid. If they did that then everyone would wonder why the real vigi hadn't killed rainbows. And then they'd have to claim vigi, which would get one of theirs dead almost guaranteed.

The played correctly. Don't kill rainbows (because they don't have to, and if he were lying real vigi would kill him). Then kill saraf who will give us almost no reads on who they are because he hasn't done much.

jrkirby

United States1510 Posts

April 08 2013 17:28 GMT

#510

Out of all those who voted jampi, my strongest scumread is smancer.

jrkirby

United States1510 Posts

April 09 2013 04:21 GMT

#591

Sorry guys. I'm here, I'm reading, but I don't have time to post much. I was lazy over the weekend with irl stuff and it's coming back to bite me.

I'm a bit surprised jarjar is still on my case. I feel like he hasn't read the thread carefully enough, because I don't feel like he has too much evidence on me. I saw his post about me and it seems like most of it was stuff that happened on the first half of the first day when my reads weren't very good. A lot has changed since then - Rainbows claiming, and then surviving - which should change anyone's reads drastically. Especially if they thought he was scum before. So saying I've changed my mind too much is a bad argument against me. I changed my mind as new evidence presented itself.

I wish I could give a better defence, but I have work I need to do. But I am reading everything. I believe I'll be able to give good time to posting and give good votes before the end of the 2nd day. Hopefully.

Also, everyone still on rainbows case - if he was scum, it's very unlikely for him to be alive right now. I HIGHLY doubt he's scum. I hate that he claimed, but he's just a terrible vigi, not scum.

jrkirby

United States1510 Posts

April 09 2013 04:46 GMT

#595

What I meant by the bolded was this: the mafia don't need to lead the charge on day one. There's a good chance some town will bandwagon another town. All they have to do is make sure that the person bandwagoned isactually town, not mafia.

The only time I was suspicious of jampi was when I had absolutely no evidence. I made that clear every time I mentioned my suspicion, and I never voted for him.