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##Vote: jampidampi cya guys, i have to go out. Hope the lynch goes well ^_^ | ||
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On April 07 2013 19:05 Warent wrote: These questions from Jampi (Sarafs who brought them up first). Did anyone even try to answer them? So, Smancer, Fishgle, Moloch, care to honour JarJars wish and provide an answer to these questions? i voted for him, not because he made bad cases, but because he didn't make any at all, except for his small ones on Saraf and jarjar at the very end. They felt like cop-out last minute BS to save his own ass, rather than well thought out arguments. He had been asking questions all game, and never giving an opinion, like he was trying to avoid any responsibility. Then, he goes after easy targets, Saraf and JarJar, both of whom have posted very little. Not only that, but he votes for JarJar, after he had just gotten 2 votes. He stated "i'll be back after clearing my thoughts", waits until Saraf and jrkirby come in with their votes on jarjar, then just copies what they do. | ||
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On April 08 2013 07:05 Obzy wrote: if I had to be suspicious of somebody on jampi, at the moment, it's smancer, not fish. his scum reads, I would've been quite happy with pre-lynch - now, I'm obviously a bit more skeptical - but I don't think that they make him scum, just reaching with the association to a jampi case. I'm more suspicious of Smancer than the other two, although they obviously all need to keep talking, along with everybody else ^^ Specifically regarding smancer; what's with the rainbows flip-flop? I'll admit, my own confidence was shaken - but really, does the jampi lynch change rainbows' situation? Rainbows wasn't even here for the majority of the jampi stuff. (Which is fucking bad, no doubt! But for Smancer to bring up rainbows after the fact? =l *shrug* Also not liking Jarjar for lurking - why not nobodywonder as well? Jarjar just happened to be the one being voted for lurking at that time. This isn't concrete, of course - but if I had to pick somebody on jampi's wagon that was actually scum, it would be Smancer, not Fish or Moloch. [Naturally, I am ignoring myself. ^^] Does anybody have any opinions on this? if I were to look at the mislynch completely objectively, I would say that i'm the scum. I was the first to point out jampi being suspicious, and then I spearheaded the lynch, i think. Smancer helped me a lot, but I don't know if he would have even thought about jampi if it weren't for me. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=405359¤tpage=12#231 After that post, Smancer goes on to make his big incriminating argument, which is what got the lynch i think. I'm not sure what to make of it. i wouldn't have voted for jampi if it weren't for smancer's posts either. I was trying to build a case against warent at the time. So... since i'm obviously not going to vote for myself, i don't feel it'd be fair to vote for Smancer in this instance either. Unless someone else can show me some other evidence against smancer, i'm not going to point any fingers yet for the mislynch. I'm going to look over warent, saraf, and moloch's filters right now. I have null reads on all of them. Also, I think rainbows might need a second look. Before, I was completely sure he was telling the truth about the claim, but now i'm starting to doubt it. | ||
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good to see that jarjar and rainbows are posting, at least. | ||
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On April 09 2013 04:02 TheRavensName wrote: Well, sense were on the subject of rainbows and people who voted for Jambi.... may I take this time to point out who started the first case against our mislynched cop budy? Why... it would be rainbows! Who luckily shifted off it onto me and vanished off into the wilderness. So... to all the people who are accusing at least one person on Jampi... why are you not at least considering the one who started it all? huh. i thought i had already pointed out who had actually started the vote on jampi here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=405359¤tpage=24#471 (me and smancer) still, you're on to something. rainbows makes a baseless vote on jampi, then when he gets questioned, gets angry and claims blue. Another thing that rainbows keeps saying is i don't have any scum buddies as if scum would be dumb enough to band together. That doesn't prove your innocence at all, dude.furthermore, saying that TRN's scum buddy is Nobodywonder.... that's hilarious. NW hasn't posted at all. I want to vote for you rainbows, but i don't want to risk offing another blue. | ||
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On April 09 2013 03:07 Smancer wrote: ... Moloch. I think his vote was the most suspicious as it was the fourth and final. Mine, Obzy's and Fishgle vote post for Jampi was detailed and made a good case. Moloch's unfortunately wasn't that detailed, and it looks like he is just sheeping. Furthermore he makes a post and then immediately changes the subject to JarJar. My ready on Moloch has been town as well. Perhaps I am tunneling hard in the sense that I think everyone who agreed with me was town. I personally think there is more to read into TRNs and Rainbows back and forth. But Warrent is probably right that one of the votes for Jamp was scum. moloch's vote may have been sheeping (is that the same as bandwagoning? i think i'm used to different terminology), but it may also have just been him agreeing with us, and seeing no point in reiterating the same arguments. There isn't much else in his filter other than arguments about rainbows, by who's alignment i am completely baffled. Currently i'm afraid that Obzy might be scum. I really have no proof. He argues really well, and makes good points. I guess that's why I'm afraid. He seems like a much better player than the rest of us, and has literally no suspicion on him, despite having voted for a blue. He also constantly reminds us who his town reads are, which is good play for townie, but also a good way for scum to make friends, i think. Anyone have anything to say about obzy, that isn't just "he's probably town"? | ||
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 To be honest, i have no clue what i think about rainbows. Yea, it was a bit of an easy comment for not having posted in a bit, but rainbows makes himself look so scummy with nearly everything he says, it's hard not to comment on him.In the end I guess I don't want to look like an idiot. last game i was in, we were completely dismantled by mafia, and the ringleader was someone very much like you obzy, that was on everyone's good sides. currently i'm looking into smancer and warent, but i'm having trouble making something of their posts that isn't pure speculation. The nightkill left me rather deflated. | ||
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rainbows, for now i'm going to ignore your giant feud with TRN, cuz i don't think it's getting us anywhere. I feel like you're still angry at all the people that were voting for you. What do you think of jrkirby and Smancer? jarjar's post about jrkirby makes a lot of sense. jrkirby big % post was rather useless, and not in line with much of his actions. He pushed town towards voting jampi, then backed off and defended jampi so he wouldn't look suspicious. Like Smancer stated, defending jampi it makes jrkirby look really good after the lynch. It feels like too obvious a set up. Also, do you think we should lynch NW for lurking, or JarJar too for that matter. I felt like jarjar's post was useful, but i'm a bit disappointed he didn't post as much as he promised he would. Is that reason enough to vote for jarjar? i don't know. | ||
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##Vote: Fishgle i'll try to catch up | ||
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On April 10 2013 08:28 nobodywonder wrote: FUCK YOU FISHGLE, dont do this shit, dont be krafla. oh god this is newbie mafia xxix all over again. now im paranoid about a rainbows fakeclaim and a crazy ass conspiracy shit and i also have class soon... i'm sorry i don't want to make a baseless sheep vote. D: | ||
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let's see how this goes | ||
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On April 10 2013 08:40 Obzy wrote: You know what? I'm really fucking angry with you, Rain. Almost any circumstance where I lose involves me hypothetically trying to lynch you at LYLO. I feel like I tried really hard to save you throughout this game, I have stuck up for you, I've done my absolute best to keep you alive lol, and in the end, I'm just pissed and you show up 30 minutes before lynch to yell at Ravens. Jesus fucking christ. I'm lynching you tomorrow unless kirby flips scum. And if he flips scum, I'm only "Probably" lynching you tomorrow. Fuck. ##Vote jrkirby ditto, dude. this whole ravens versus rainbows ordeal is annoying and distracting. can't they see that they have almost no support from anyone atm? | ||
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On April 10 2013 08:42 nobodywonder wrote: shit alright if raven is town then rainbows is mafia, if raven is mafia then rainbows town for sure... god i just wish we had more time right now... right now jrkirby still feels scummy, but idk my fellow voters on jrk dont feel that townie to me either... i dont like smancer especially...his votes and reasoning weren't the best. i fear that smancer and jjd may be scum too. god im so paranoid right now should we kill off one of rainbows or raven just to get this thing sorted out? | ||
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On April 10 2013 08:50 jrkirby wrote: If I was wrong about jarjar, I apologize, because I was wrong completely. But I'm guessing you'll lynch him tomorrow after I flip. if we're wrong, i think there's a more important target. | ||
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