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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 04 2013 20:20 GMT
#501
Does nobody else find it weird that the guys who pushed the Syl lynch into oblivion are blaming it on Risk / me, etc for switching over to avoid a no-lynch?

Why so afraid to take responsibility? The fact that Ghor / Lazer led a lynch on a townie isn't what is concerning -- it's the fact that they're like 'omg why did you kill that townie guys why did you switch over so scummy right now'
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 04 2013 20:23 GMT
#502
On April 05 2013 05:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 05:07 Lazermonkey wrote:
On April 05 2013 05:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
@ Lazer

How the fudge can you have a town read on Ghor? He just tried to condemn 3 people for sheeping his own Syl case.
I think that is perfectly resonable given that you sheeped your scum read -.-

Ghor has been one of the most productive players this game, with easy to follow logic. His reasoning makes alot of sense and is very similar to mine, which I think shows of a townie mindset.


Are you that stupid? Where pre-lynch was Ghor my scumread hmmm? I guess tunneling a townie with your buddy Ghor over there is much much better, and then blame it on the guys who actually wanted to lynch Hopeless because you were too stubborn to switch over.

Nice soft town claim btw.
O.o Sorry, I kind of took his word for granted, that you had him as scum read that is. Well, this is somewhat interesting and it means Ghor lied in order to make you look worse... Ghor just rose quite alot on my scum-o-meter.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 04 2013 20:24 GMT
#503
On April 05 2013 05:23 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 05:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On April 05 2013 05:07 Lazermonkey wrote:
On April 05 2013 05:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
@ Lazer

How the fudge can you have a town read on Ghor? He just tried to condemn 3 people for sheeping his own Syl case.
I think that is perfectly resonable given that you sheeped your scum read -.-

Ghor has been one of the most productive players this game, with easy to follow logic. His reasoning makes alot of sense and is very similar to mine, which I think shows of a townie mindset.


Are you that stupid? Where pre-lynch was Ghor my scumread hmmm? I guess tunneling a townie with your buddy Ghor over there is much much better, and then blame it on the guys who actually wanted to lynch Hopeless because you were too stubborn to switch over.

Nice soft town claim btw.
O.o Sorry, I kind of took his word for granted, that you had him as scum read that is. Well, this is somewhat interesting and it means Ghor lied in order to make you look worse... Ghor just rose quite alot on my scum-o-meter.


Thank God. I was beginning to think you had no sense.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 04 2013 20:44 GMT
#504
I said it was his call because the votes were 3-3 viscera hadn't voted and his vote would pretty much decide who got lynched.
I didn't say VisceraEyes, decide who we'll kill I'll sheep you.

Ghor
On April 05 2013 04:43 Ghor wrote:
Got really sad when I saw Sylencia's flip. Didn't expect him to flip town at all .

I'm still not sure what to make of the risk vs hopeless situation, and I'll be busy very soon until tomorrow. I would like to advise to go through a few things (will do that myself once I have time, but I think it's where we have to look at).

Still, quick rundown:
Check everybody's scumreads before the lynch, especially for weak pushes or even absence (considered RoL's absence to be scummy, but he gave an excuse and promised activity for 4 days which seems rather townie).

In that regard hopeless and risk still look equally bad to me cause they kinda dropped "casually" onto the sylencia lynch, and I would expect hopeless and CC to be more careful about sheeping their scumread's (me) case there (whereas hopeless said it was for self-preservation, will have to check if CC and hopeless gave out a sylencia read at all).

I'll have to scrutiny CC some more in general cause I didn't really pay enough attention to him since the risk pressure thing, and I don't know why he thinks I'm scum. I would like to hear reasons for that.

With that, I'll contribute more when I'm back and have more time. Good hunting.

If those are your sincere thoughts after the lynch I find them very odd and suspicious.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 04 2013 20:44 GMT
#505
Work. Busy. Promise to contribute, but later.

Axel shot weirds me out and I'm looking at his filter first.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 04 2013 20:51 GMT
#506
On April 05 2013 05:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Work. Busy. Promise to contribute, but later.

Axel shot weirds me out and I'm looking at his filter first.

Shot doesn't seem to far stretched to me. You and me could have gotten medic protection. Ghor looks bad after spearheading a townielynch or could be mafia. Axle looked very townie early on day 1.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Ghor
Profile Joined March 2013
Russian Federation140 Posts
April 04 2013 20:55 GMT
#507
posting from phone. ask yourself this question, wasnt the stuff cheesecake mentions already there before the sylencia lynch?why does he only mention it after the lynch?he must have seen the things he mentions already before, evidence being that there is also stuff in his filter that suggests he thinks im scum (posts that have ghor at top of them and various pressure), but he didnt say it outright.nothing changed about my reads except that i also suspect cc now.
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Ghor
Profile Joined March 2013
Russian Federation140 Posts
April 04 2013 21:00 GMT
#508
most of the things he found scummy were very early in the game, but you do not see him call me out for that back then, instead bring them up summarized now after that he was able to sheep my case.i dont think his points are genuine or they would have been mentioned earlier.he called me out for some bad wording stuff not for the things he suddenly finds scummy.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 04 2013 21:02 GMT
#509
Hopeless, I'm still waiting for you to explain to me in detail how you have a townread on ghor and a scumread on me.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 04 2013 21:08 GMT
#510
On April 05 2013 05:51 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 05:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Work. Busy. Promise to contribute, but later.

Axel shot weirds me out and I'm looking at his filter first.

Shot doesn't seem to far stretched to me. You and me could have gotten medic protection. Ghor looks bad after spearheading a townielynch or could be mafia. Axle looked very townie early on day 1.

That you presume either you or I would be prioritized over RoL is highly suspicious to me. Just sayin.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 04 2013 21:10 GMT
#511
On April 05 2013 06:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 05:51 risk.nuke wrote:
On April 05 2013 05:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Work. Busy. Promise to contribute, but later.

Axel shot weirds me out and I'm looking at his filter first.

Shot doesn't seem to far stretched to me. You and me could have gotten medic protection. Ghor looks bad after spearheading a townielynch or could be mafia. Axle looked very townie early on day 1.

That you presume either you or I would be prioritized over RoL is highly suspicious to me. Just sayin.

RoL could be scum, but assuming he is townie, with his activity and contributions I don't think it's odd he wasn't shot. Mafia needs to kill townies that won't get lynched.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 04 2013 21:31 GMT
#512
On April 05 2013 06:00 Ghor wrote:
most of the things he found scummy were very early in the game, but you do not see him call me out for that back then, instead bring them up summarized now after that he was able to sheep my case.i dont think his points are genuine or they would have been mentioned earlier.he called me out for some bad wording stuff not for the things he suddenly finds scummy.


Ghor, you are so scum. You keep throwing suspicion on me, and not defending the actual points. You say that I 'sheeped your case', okay. Use that as your ammo against me --- I welcome it. Come on, buddy, watcha got?

But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 04 2013 21:41 GMT
#513
On April 05 2013 06:02 risk.nuke wrote:
Hopeless, I'm still waiting for you to explain to me in detail how you have a townread on ghor and a scumread on me.

Where in the hell do you see townread? Like fucking woooooowwww stop putting shit in my mouth, it tastes terrible.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 04 2013 21:44 GMT
#514
Look at Ghor's posts since the lynch.

On April 05 2013 04:43 Ghor wrote:
1.)Got really sad when I saw Sylencia's flip. Didn't expect him to flip town at all .

I'm still not sure what to make of the risk vs hopeless situation, and I'll be busy very soon until tomorrow. I would like to advise to go through a few things (will do that myself once I have time, but I think it's where we have to look at).

Still, quick rundown:
Check everybody's scumreads before the lynch, especially for weak pushes or even absence (considered RoL's absence to be scummy, but he gave an excuse and promised activity for 4 days which seems rather townie).

2.) In that regard hopeless and risk still look equally bad to me cause they kinda dropped "casually" onto the sylencia lynch, and I would expect hopeless and 3.) CC to be more careful about sheeping their scumread's (me) case there (whereas hopeless said it was for self-preservation, will have to check if CC and hopeless gave out a sylencia read at all).

4.) I'll have to scrutiny CC some more in general cause I didn't really pay enough attention to him since the risk pressure thing, and I don't know why he thinks I'm scum. I would like to hear reasons for that.

With that, I'll contribute more when I'm back and have more time. Good hunting.


1.) Sympathy about a town being lynched. Ghor ensures the thread that he had no idea he would flip town, and he was saddened by this fact.

2.) Flings shit on a bunch of people for voting Syl. In reality, most of us went there because Ghor was stubborn enough to not change his vote. He doesn't take responsibility for the lynch, just blames the guys that were forced to vote.

3.) A blatant lie. He tries to condemn me for 'sheeping a scumread', when he was neither my scumread, nor did I sheep him. He tries to play it off like I did some terrible deed by avoiding a mislynch (coincidentally, my vote never mattered lol)

4.) Hmm... CC thinks I'm scum? I should set up things so I can suspect him later.

On April 05 2013 05:55 Ghor wrote:
posting from phone. ask yourself this question, A.) wasnt the stuff cheesecake mentions already there before the sylencia lynch?why does he only mention it after the lynch?he must have seen the things he mentions already before, evidence being B.) that there is also stuff in his filter that suggests he thinks im scum (posts that have ghor at top of them and various pressure), but he didnt say it outright.nothing changed about my reads except that C.
)
i also suspect cc now.


A.) Irrelevant to a defense. He ignores my points.

B.) Pressure =/= scumread

C.) Kinda Figured you would :D

On April 05 2013 06:00 Ghor wrote:
most of the things he found scummy were very early in the game, but you do not see him call me out for that back then, instead bring them up summarized now after that he was able to sheep my case.i dont think his points are genuine or they would have been mentioned earlier.he called me out for some bad wording stuff not for the things he suddenly finds scummy.


Again, trying to discredit me for something that makes no sense. This scum is scared out of his pants.

I also find it interesting that he gives RoL a townie read.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 04 2013 21:59 GMT
#515
On April 05 2013 06:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 06:02 risk.nuke wrote:
Hopeless, I'm still waiting for you to explain to me in detail how you have a townread on ghor and a scumread on me.

Where in the hell do you see townread? Like fucking woooooowwww stop putting shit in my mouth, it tastes terrible.

I ment this but fine you just said he was townier then me. Now answer the question.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 04 2013 22:12 GMT
#516
Cheese is manipulating Lazer.

##Vote: Mr. Cheesecake
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 04 2013 22:19 GMT
#517
On April 05 2013 07:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Cheese is manipulating Lazer.

##Vote: Mr. Cheesecake


This man speaks the truth.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 04 2013 22:25 GMT
#518
On April 05 2013 07:19 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 07:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Cheese is manipulating Lazer.

##Vote: Mr. Cheesecake


This man speaks the truth.

what?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 04 2013 22:27 GMT
#519
On April 05 2013 07:25 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 07:19 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On April 05 2013 07:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Cheese is manipulating Lazer.

##Vote: Mr. Cheesecake


This man speaks the truth.

what?


Just something to get people noticing me. What say you to a Ghor lynch?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 04 2013 22:27 GMT
#520
risk do something for me. Filter Cheese. Hit All. Ctrl-F "Lazer".

Read all the posts that he quotes Lazer. Tell me what you see.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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