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getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 30 2013 05:15 GMT
#3505
I already posted in the Mason QT but I might as well point it out here. What blue role do you think that he could actually claim that we would actually believe? Vet? Not provable. Medic? Not provable. Jailer? Would've claimed/crumbed already imo. Cop? lulz. Mason? lulz. JOAT? Not likely. No reason to not claim with the cops as 1 of them has to be lying. Vigilante? No claim/crumb; no mention of grush; no explanation for not firing at 1 of a number of people. No called hit incoming. Named VT? lulz. VT/Miller? Hellz no.

I see no role that he could claim that doesn't make me want to lynch him faster. Any claim at all makes him an super autolynch. Like regardless of the check. Honestly, I just want to move on to the next lynch.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 30 2013 05:27 GMT
#3509
On April 30 2013 14:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't see those as blue crumbs at all. I don't even know what you're referring to.

Really? You don't consider the fact that he doesn't consider the option that he could be a miller a possibility a blue tell?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 30 2013 05:34 GMT
#3514
My point is that he's making a soft blue claim when I can't see any blue role that he could actually have that he wouldn't have done/said something about yet. So yah, it really is more a non-green tell. But since we can exclude blue...
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 30 2013 05:34 GMT
#3516
TheRavensName masoned Palmar N1 then me N2.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 30 2013 05:37 GMT
#3521
Correct. I stated early D3 that I was masoned with TRN.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 30 2013 05:38 GMT
#3522
Anywho, I have clinical in 5 hours and need to sleep. Night.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 30 2013 05:50 GMT
#3526
In other news, Shiao's post count is up to 1337.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 30 2013 05:53 GMT
#3527
And yes, you're right. I guess you did consider miller. Does that make an actual difference? Do you have a planned defense other than "well it could be that XYZ happened..."? Do you have any intention to actually scumhunt?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 30 2013 22:14 GMT
#3761
On May 01 2013 06:22 geript wrote:
I think we should consider looking into Artanis and stutters. I mean, why would the host replace inactive town just to mod kill scum?

On May 01 2013 06:23 geript wrote:
Could've ended up with a double stack (scum + 3p) on CC. Could be BC/ Palmar for SK with a roleblock. We'll know more after tonight.

Qff
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
May 01 2013 00:53 GMT
#3872
Isn't Ace confirmed not mafia? N1 Palmar/BC were RB'd, N2 Ace was RB'd, N3 VE/Ace were RB'd. The options to believe the missing RB is that one of the two jailers didn't send in an action, one of palmar/bc and one of ve/ace are lying about RBs n1/N3 respectively, ace is jailer, someone didnt announce a rb n2 who should have or ace got double RB'd N2. In the game all mafia actions were sent in at once by one mafia member, so I see no reason for it to be otherwise here. That would mean the second jailer would be an inactive guy N2 or Ace. Since 2 scum jailers would likely be RBing cops to prevent sanity confirmation/deny information, that makes the unflipped jailer town unless palmar is mafia. Plus, no reason to double protect Ace N2 as mafia. Two different players lying about RBs is unlikely IMO. So that means that ace is jailer or was double RB'd. Ace couldn't RB VE and be RB'd himself so that's out. The simplest solution is that Ace got double RBd N2. That should make him town or 3P as he was super unlikely to get Vig'd N2 because of the Clarity lynch.

I just don't see any way Ace could be mafia.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
May 01 2013 19:53 GMT
#4057
On May 02 2013 04:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 04:10 Palmar wrote:
checked VE, got guilty, am paranoid

Wait I gotta ask about this...in The Game I checked a couple people who died at night, and I didn't get returns back.

Geript did you guys RB me every night but N1?

right. We RB'd you every night after you claimed and you claimed on D2.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
May 01 2013 19:58 GMT
#4059
On May 02 2013 04:28 kushm4sta wrote:
Who did VE want to kill today? Yamato.
Today Yamato must die.
##vote yamato

Give your reasons why... I want to see how closely they compare to my reasons for wanting to lynch yamato. Honestly though, I'd like to see Ace not roleblocked to see if he's SP or something.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
May 01 2013 20:06 GMT
#4061
On May 02 2013 04:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 04:53 getmoript wrote:
On May 02 2013 04:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 02 2013 04:10 Palmar wrote:
checked VE, got guilty, am paranoid

Wait I gotta ask about this...in The Game I checked a couple people who died at night, and I didn't get returns back.

Geript did you guys RB me every night but N1?

right. We RB'd you every night after you claimed and you claimed on D2.

Ok just making sure. I never was sure if you'd still get a return on a check if the target died.
So what do YOU want to do today?

Drink beer and relax, you? As for a check on dead players... idk I think it depends per mod.

Honestly, I think who I want to kill very much depends on who was roleblocked etc. Like, if we think that there could be a SP, then I want to lynch the fuck out of Ace. If we got a vigilante claim, then I'd wholly ignore Ace. My count is 16 players, so 14-2 or 13-2-1; If it's the latter than we lynch Ace and make it easy. If it's the former then we have 5 mislynches available at least, maybe 6 dependent. Right now, considering the pace of the game I just want to lynch lurkers. It gives us a very good idea of what type of scum team and setup we're looking at in 2-3 days
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
May 01 2013 20:53 GMT
#4072
On May 02 2013 05:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 05:06 getmoript wrote:
On May 02 2013 04:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 02 2013 04:53 getmoript wrote:
On May 02 2013 04:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 02 2013 04:10 Palmar wrote:
checked VE, got guilty, am paranoid

Wait I gotta ask about this...in The Game I checked a couple people who died at night, and I didn't get returns back.

Geript did you guys RB me every night but N1?

right. We RB'd you every night after you claimed and you claimed on D2.

Ok just making sure. I never was sure if you'd still get a return on a check if the target died.
So what do YOU want to do today?

Drink beer and relax, you? As for a check on dead players... idk I think it depends per mod.

Honestly, I think who I want to kill very much depends on who was roleblocked etc. Like, if we think that there could be a SP, then I want to lynch the fuck out of Ace. If we got a vigilante claim, then I'd wholly ignore Ace. My count is 16 players, so 14-2 or 13-2-1; If it's the latter than we lynch Ace and make it easy. If it's the former then we have 5 mislynches available at least, maybe 6 dependent. Right now, considering the pace of the game I just want to lynch lurkers. It gives us a very good idea of what type of scum team and setup we're looking at in 2-3 days

Let's do work, you and I.
Personally I'm still pretty sure we have a 3rd party, and it's not SK, it's poisoner. It makes the most sense as to why we only had one night with 2 kills; I've explained previously why I think it's likely to be Ace. It's also the simplest explanation if you take RBs into account; rather than try to account for missing kills and whatnot due to stacking of RBs AND kills, I think it was that on N2 both scum and town RBed Ace and that was it. We don't have any vigs because we'd have more people dead---yours truly being one of them. Or they hit 3p with an extra night life in which case they should REALLY claim, but I figure if that were the case they would have done that a while ago. Whoever our JK is has been doing a great job.

Now we can continue to RB Ace as it seems we only have to worry about one death a night that way, or we can let the JK target someone else if people want to be absolutely sure of him since the kills are compulsive. That requires us lynching mafia 2 days in a row (though obv we have room for mislynches at worst) since the poisoner NK takes an extra day. As far as lynch targets goes are we sure we want to lynch into lurkers? VE wanted yamato gone but thought there was some merit to the BC case? Do we want to follow him or OO or head in a different direction? Personally I am a little worried that none of Ace/Palmar/BC/(BM?) have gone down yet so I feel like I'm more likely to vet lynch today---that heuristic does seem to hold value that they're alive for a reason. I think it's more important that we lynch mafia today than Ace (assuming 3p) since he's been kept at bay thus far.

I think the right call would be to give a night off of RBing Ace. It's an easy way to exclude him as 3p which just leaves town imo. Doesn't take that long and only costs us 1 and I don't think it even costs us a mislynch. So I don't see a reason to lynch ace currently.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
May 02 2013 04:22 GMT
#4173
Honestly, my interest in voting for hopeless has greatly reduced because Yamato is pushing him.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
May 02 2013 04:34 GMT
#4179
On May 02 2013 13:30 yamato77 wrote:
It's really obvious he's mafia.

Geript, I am not mafia. There's zero good reason left to think so. Even Ace isn't pushing me, and is fine with a Hopeless lynch.

I'm still not sold on you not being mafia. Even if you aren't mafia, then it's pretty obvious that you haven't been playing well at all this game. So you calling someone scum makes me not want to sheep you because you're likely tilted and wrong.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
May 02 2013 04:59 GMT
#4189
On May 02 2013 13:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
See Geript, I think it worries me more that Ace is on board than yamato.

Ace being on board doesn't bother me. He could be the SP, but I think he would've pushed a non-scum lynch D2 after the tube flip to keep scum KP at 2. I'll reread his filter when I get home. I'm just not satisfied with the hopeless lynch and want to go elsewhere. I remember being ok with Artanis/stutters after filtering them this afternoon. I just don't have any strong scum targets I like right now.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
May 02 2013 16:15 GMT
#4287
On May 03 2013 00:58 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 00:53 yamato77 wrote:
Then unless there's a second scum vigilante, Ace is SP.

Again the best option is to have the roleblocker block elsewhere for one night. That will show us if we should kill him or not. There's no reason to kill him until proof to the otherwise. He's confirmed not scum.

qff
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
May 02 2013 16:24 GMT
#4289
BC where do you stand on yamato right now?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
May 02 2013 18:04 GMT
#4300
On May 03 2013 03:04 geript wrote:
Ok, so why doesn't town vig claim so we can avoid lynching Ace. If no vig claim then lynch Ace. That works too I guess.

fucking failure at running on hydra
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