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On April 26 2013 09:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: Actually how does GiygaS voting for Ace support your point 1? He's only following the thread sentiment the whole time. Even if you think that Giygas is shitting on Palmar instead of VE, that's more gas to the fire.
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I still think the quote is Giygas implicating VE not palmar but whatever.
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On April 26 2013 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote: What's your read of Palmar and why geript? Town. I see no reason to question the roleblock/jail. If he was roleblocked by town, then odds are he was the second NK. If he was roleblocked by scum, then he's almost certainly town.
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On April 26 2013 10:00 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 09:54 getmoript wrote:On April 26 2013 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote: What's your read of Palmar and why geript? Town. I see no reason to question the roleblock/jail. If he was roleblocked by town, then odds are he was the second NK. If he was roleblocked by scum, then he's almost certainly town. Why? I don't understand this at all. He hasn't done anything at all - that's not reason enough for you to question the roleblock? And the fact that BC claimed RB? Those are both excellent reasons to question the roleblock. So why not question the roleblock? Why is he town OUTSIDE the claim of RB? You don't find it odd that he thought that inactivity was "especially damning" yet he ignored tube the whole game long? You don't find his fail-tunnel of me suspicious at all? Like, it looks to me like you only think he's town because you agree with him that I'm scum, which if that's the case then you're doing something wrong friend...because A) Palmar has given no good reason for thinking I'm scum and B) I'm town. Yes, the second NK could've been on a roleblocked/jailed BC. But that means that, unless scum doublestacked or withheld a NK, that Palmar then was roleblocked/jailed by scum (or they're idiots and NK'd their own jailed target). If Palmar is lying about a roleblock, then it comes out 1-2 nights later regardless. It just doesn't make any sense to me to fakeclaim a roleblock; I've seen it before but in this game but it just doesn't make sense N1.
Also, I really liked Rayn's list during N1. Palmar +1'd it. You even said early that Palmar wouldn't have likely made a post regarding Vivax as town. I liked yamato's heuristic that people that share reads with you are more likely to be town. This feels like the PYP palmar to me.
As I recall, he was arguing that inactive was "especially damning" for you. I'll look at his filter for you, but I don't remember a flat out "inactivity = scum" statement from him.
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I don't care which of the top targets is flipped today. I want a flip Vote shiao
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On April 27 2013 06:54 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 06:51 VisceraEyes wrote: No, I wanted you to respond. Period. Now you have. Now stop saying "Fuck you". Lol, and then you wanted to tell BC I had responded! Total bullshit, VE. Go take a break. You're tunneling hardcore man.
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Look guys I'm going to be honest. We're at 100+ pages and not out of day 2 yet. All I see is us arguing over the same people we started arguing over. The only change on the lynch block today is removing VE from the top 3 scummy targets. I see people waffling over who's not scum and finding new reasons for them to not be scum. All that's being done right now is us giving us way more filter to read and extra room for scum to hide in. Can we please consolidate, hammer someone and move forward?
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Ace, your points are bad and you should feel bad for making them. If clarity is scum, then that's two--TWO--scum who wholly afk'd. In that case, we can disregard the "can't have a lazy scum team" reasoning. Hydra just finished in a blowout (literally only 1 town death) because of lazy scum. Other than The Game, I can't think of an instance of an active, non-lazy scum team.
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Honestly Ace I don't care enough to fight you over Shiao today. I've been working for 12 hours and likely have another 12 to go before I get to sleep. I just want a flip.
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On April 24 2013 08:03 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: So why did you decide those three players were the ones you should be reading more into over, let's say yamato/Oats? cause I had already read over oats and yamato Those three names were just cause looking at the playerlist I couldn't recall anything about them, reads etc. BC had a ton of stupid miller discussion crap but today he's as green as can be Bed now. This was his last post. Is there a reason to not let mods flip him since its been 72 hours?
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Please oh please oh please OO, please cherry pick my posts. I'll give you 8000 interweb points.
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Awe Ace, why don't you want to talk about me?
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Ok, why did you think my point was bad?
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On April 28 2013 14:29 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 14:26 getmoript wrote: Awe Ace, why don't you want to talk about me? dat delurk I've worked 24 hours in the past 36. I'll delurk as I please. I dare you to bring an actual case against me.
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Nah, Rayn was right about me misreading Giygas post. I still want Giygas to die for being a blender. I still want Shiao dead because Vivax case was good and Vivax died and people have fucking forgotten about that shit.
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@Ace: Let's assume for a second that there are 3 active scum left. Who then has been dissuading discussion? Who has actively been inserting new shit preventing us from getting reads on people? Where are the active disruptive scum?
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On April 28 2013 14:32 WaveofShadow wrote: Ohai Geript. Here's an opportunity you were asking for earlier in the game. Do you think I'm scum based on occurrences earlier in the thread? Sorry I missed this question, could you clarify what you mean exactly?
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On April 28 2013 14:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 14:35 getmoript wrote: Nah, Rayn was right about me misreading Giygas post. I still want Giygas to die for being a blender. I still want Shiao dead because Vivax case was good and Vivax died and people have fucking forgotten about that shit. geript, you too. Why do you think scum did sacrifice their vigilante over Shiao, and why didn't they push a conter-case on a townie at any point of D2? Why sacrifice a player who isn't going to get modkilled for a player who is? Because I don't think there are any active scum.
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On April 28 2013 14:43 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 14:29 Ace wrote: yamato clearly wants a vigi shot to the face, so someone just end him. I'm gonna go do something productive like look for gif meems to spam once yamato has died and flipped Scum. GN peoples. THIS IS WHAT ACE RESORTS TO, PEOPLE NOT ACTUALLY RESPONDING TO MY POINTS, BUT THIS REMEMBER, IF I DIE, THAT HE IS MAFIA
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