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On April 23 2013 09:14 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 09:12 yamato77 wrote:On April 23 2013 09:11 Bill Murray wrote:
I kind of disagree, WOS ^
I feel like his case is subjective, where it's largely meta based, and that's the reason I agree with it. I don't feel like he has much objectivity with it... in fact, he keeps saying he's going to be trying to catch the entire team, but I have only seen him tunneling, in general... sorry to overgeneralize
i'll try to be more specific... he's beating a dead horse Do you want me to talk about someone other than VE? I could talk about BC Don't talk about: BC, Oats, Me, Vivax, kushm4sta (or anyone else deterring your wagon) talk about: Ace (not his interaction with bc, though), Palmar, lurkers (preferably people you wouldn't expect to be lurking... for me, dr.h)
Well, there are 3 replacements being called for. Not gonna try to divine alignment from people that aren't playing.
Ace is a tricky one. The case I posted earlier before his interaction with BC was kinda bad, but I don't understand how he developed a scum read on me whatsoever.
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On April 23 2013 09:18 Ace wrote:
but you've got no credibility yamato. If VE is scum - tough shit. You've played bad enough that your words carry no weight and screaming about it isn't moving the needle towards his lynch. Stop trying to derail the wagon and at least vote for Oats.
I've repeatedly said I would lynch Oats.
But I'm less sure of him than I am of VE.
And yes, I'm fully aware of my current situation and how I got here, thank you.
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One thing to note is, often when you have a gut townread on VE, he is mafia.
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On April 23 2013 09:25 Ace wrote:
##vote Oatsmaster
Think he's the better lynch looking at Vivax's list. Too many people prefer Oats but haven't changed to it so I will do so. yamato just being useless, eventual vigi bait.
I am not being useless, lol.
Just because I don't listen to you does not make me a good vigi shot.
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On April 23 2013 09:29 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 09:26 Palmar wrote:On April 23 2013 09:24 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 23 2013 09:23 Palmar wrote:On April 23 2013 09:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hey guys you wanna know why Palmar thinks I'm scum? Number of pages in my filter. Period. Just ask him, he'll tell you.
I suppose that's somewhat accurate. Also because you haven't been yelling at scum, I like overzealous borderline-crazy town VE. He's a friend and I miss him. So yeah, until my "lazy ve is scum ve" is ever wrong I'm sticking with it. Fuck that you give me shit all the time about my playstyle and unrepentantly ignore me when I play like that you little shit. I ignore you cause I usually don't agree with you, that doesn't have much to do whether or not I can tell your alignment. And I almost never give you shit? Maybe the shit you give me stings more cause I like you.  Whatever, the point is that I'm clearly trying to find scum and you're like ignoring that fact. Also yamato looks scummy as shit and you're throwing in your lot with him. Palmar-Thats-Never-Wrong is a friend and I miss him. Why don't you see if you can conjure that dude up?
You still have yet to justify your suspicion of me beyond one sentence.
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On April 23 2013 09:35 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 09:17 yamato77 wrote:On April 23 2013 09:14 Bill Murray wrote:On April 23 2013 09:12 yamato77 wrote:On April 23 2013 09:11 Bill Murray wrote:
I kind of disagree, WOS ^
I feel like his case is subjective, where it's largely meta based, and that's the reason I agree with it. I don't feel like he has much objectivity with it... in fact, he keeps saying he's going to be trying to catch the entire team, but I have only seen him tunneling, in general... sorry to overgeneralize
i'll try to be more specific... he's beating a dead horse Do you want me to talk about someone other than VE? I could talk about BC Don't talk about: BC, Oats, Me, Vivax, kushm4sta (or anyone else deterring your wagon) talk about: Ace (not his interaction with bc, though), Palmar, lurkers (preferably people you wouldn't expect to be lurking... for me, dr.h) Well, there are 3 replacements being called for. Not gonna try to divine alignment from people that aren't playing. Ace is a tricky one. The case I posted earlier before his interaction with BC was kinda bad, but I don't understand how he developed a scum read on me whatsoever. what is your opinion on King Palmar?
I'm pretty sure he's town.
Why do you think otherwise?
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Yeah, Oats' return is not impressive.
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He's trolling now.
Yeah, kill him.
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On April 23 2013 09:55 Oatsmaster wrote:Why now and not in 24 hours(arbitrary number that sounds good)
Why let you live when you show no indication of scumhunting?
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On April 23 2013 10:00 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 09:59 yamato77 wrote:On April 23 2013 09:55 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 23 2013 09:54 yamato77 wrote:
He's trolling now.
Yeah, kill him. Why now and not in 24 hours(arbitrary number that sounds good) Why let you live when you show no indication of scumhunting? Why let you near a computer? How does fast hammering help town if I flip town?
What does drawing this out do but let you post more dumb posts in the thread?
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Hm.
I'm liking a VE lynch more and more.
On April 23 2013 10:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
Word that.
##Unvote
##Vote: Oatsmaster
Why the sudden vote? Since when is he suspicious of Oats?
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Oh, it was one post, just like your suspicion of me.
Forgive me for finding it inadequate.
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On April 23 2013 12:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Either way, I'm tired. The amount of spam in the thread related to yamato / oats being dumb is astounding... just lynch one of them so I can have a little concrete information to work with going into tomorrow.
This is a totes scummy post. Maybe if I play a little more anti-town I'll be confirmed town :D
This shit is ridiculously stupid.
I could lynch you just for this post.
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Yeah, I'm not killing Oats.
Much rather revive the VE lynch wagon.
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Or we could lynch BC for being so scum.
I'll let you guys decide.
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So BC is scum, bros.
On April 22 2013 13:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 12:57 yamato77 wrote:On April 22 2013 12:56 Ace wrote:
so instead of looking at the people currently here, you're waiting for lurkers? awesome plan you got there. I already said I think most of the people posting (Rayn, Sharrant, Giygas) seem town. You, on the other hand, are worth looking at. Mafia is a game about finding mafia not town + waiting on lurkers for more reads? How about you analyze whos already here. Also still catching up but this is the single worst post ive seen to this point of reading
When I look at people who have voted me, this ranks near the bottom of the list in terms of logically justifiable reasoning. Finding town is just as much a part of this game as is finding mafia. The two are mutually inclusive.
This post, in contrast to his assertion, was the scummiest thing in the thread. The fact that people buy this shit just because it agreed with whatever suspicion they had on me is ludicrous. "How about you analyze who is already there?" My very next post, which I basically spelled out in this post, was my analysis of Ace. It's not even true; it's complete bullshit. Yet notably, this is the ONLY reason he gives for voting me, ever.
Observe:
On April 23 2013 04:55 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 04:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ace or BC, is there anyone you guys would like to lynch? The guy Im voting for? You know, the one I called out for having the single most scumtastic post in the thread?
On April 23 2013 05:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 04:57 ObviousOne wrote:On April 23 2013 04:55 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 23 2013 04:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ace or BC, is there anyone you guys would like to lynch? The guy Im voting for? You know, the one I called out for having the single most scumtastic post in the thread? You called my post scum then voted for Yamato. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL I also called him scum before that and he has still the single worst post in the thread. Good attempt though
Having established that his read on me is absolute horse shit, we move on to his other reads in the game:
On April 22 2013 13:51 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 13:48 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 22 2013 13:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 22 2013 12:57 yamato77 wrote:On April 22 2013 12:56 Ace wrote:
so instead of looking at the people currently here, you're waiting for lurkers? awesome plan you got there. I already said I think most of the people posting (Rayn, Sharrant, Giygas) seem town. You, on the other hand, are worth looking at. Mafia is a game about finding mafia not town + waiting on lurkers for more reads? How about you analyze whos already here. Also still catching up but this is the single worst post ive seen to this point of reading Waiting for sick reads BC  Its day 1, id expect to not get those from me at this juncture. Yamato is likely scum, BM should be lynched or vigi'd. If drH doesn't appear within the next 12 hoursish he is almost deff scum.
Why is BM scum? No good reason. Anyone thinking should be able to tell that he's town. The "miller claim" thing is a non-issue and was overblown.
Dr. H is scum why? For being inactive? What the fuck is that rationale? I guess it's easy to throw shit at people that won't respond.
On April 23 2013 04:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 04:39 yamato77 wrote:
Why could only a mafia player make that statement? Simple, its setting up a situation in which a miller can claim to get himself not lynched. Guess what? if you are someone who gets red checks on you, you get lynched or shot. If I claim self aware miller and town accepts it, whats to stop mafia from doing it once? Whats to stop them from doing it period and hope to god a ton of other people don't claim? If you accept bullshit claims like that then it auto confirms people for no reason other than players are stupid. If you are someone who gets a red check when checked you die.
Why does a town player having the opinion that millers should claim mean that they are mafia? Just because you think it's "pro-mafia" (wrongly) does that make the person in question mafia? BC is a good enough player to know better than that, no?
Yet the majority of the rest of his filter is devoted to arguing this point with OO, cementing the ides that OO likely believes what he's saying as opposed to just bringing up the idea so his mafia buddies could claim miller without a second thought.
But yet BC insists, and that's the MAJORITY of his contribution to the game. Not meaningful analysis of people's posts, but bullshit about miller claims. Observe:
On April 23 2013 05:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 23 2013 05:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 23 2013 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is OO scum by the bolded part you quoted BC? I mean, i also think he is scummy for throwing questions around and not doing anything with the answers, but why that exact comment makes him scum? There are like ~10 other people who think the same, what differs them from OO? I already answered that question on the previous page Sorry, question worded badly. What differs OO from the other people who think the same? Hes good enough to know better. He dropped the opinion in a giant wall of useless text, and used it as a way to marginally work in a reason to vote for you. Given that it is an absolutely wrong opinion, and one that only a scum could stand behind to lynch someone (unless hes extremely bad) he must be scum.
On April 23 2013 05:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 05:22 ObviousOne wrote:On April 23 2013 05:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 23 2013 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 23 2013 05:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 23 2013 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is OO scum by the bolded part you quoted BC? I mean, i also think he is scummy for throwing questions around and not doing anything with the answers, but why that exact comment makes him scum? There are like ~10 other people who think the same, what differs them from OO? I already answered that question on the previous page Sorry, question worded badly. What differs OO from the other people who think the same? Hes good enough to know better. He dropped the opinion in a giant wall of useless text, and used it as a way to marginally work in a reason to vote for you. Given that it is an absolutely wrong opinion, and one that only a scum could stand behind to lynch someone (unless hes extremely bad) he must be scum. Wat. I am extremely bad. Who told you I was good? Did you make that assumption to support your conclusion? I'm good enough to know better? That miller claims should be auto lynched? When we can just lynch people who are acting like mafia? You are telling me that lynching probable town is better than lynching probable scum and in trying to wrap my head around that, I just decided I need to smoke. Thanks for the gesture of good faith, I guess? The fuck am I reading? What reason does town have to make to ever claim miller? Seriously, tell me. All it does is clusterfuck a thread and leaves open ground for mafia to claim as well and thus be cleared as town as he claimed miller. Assume all miller claims are bullshit and kill. If you get red checked you get killed. Its pretty simple. You lynch people who are likely mafia. Town has no reason to ever claim miller EVEN IF THEY KNOW THEY ARE ONE. As all it does is create chaos. IE only mafia have a benefit to claim it thus should be lynched. As for extremely bad? Sorry I've seen you play. You aren't that bad and should be able to follow the logic I just outlined. Its straightforward and extremely basic.
On April 23 2013 05:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 05:38 Ace wrote:On April 23 2013 05:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 23 2013 05:22 ObviousOne wrote:On April 23 2013 05:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 23 2013 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 23 2013 05:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 23 2013 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is OO scum by the bolded part you quoted BC? I mean, i also think he is scummy for throwing questions around and not doing anything with the answers, but why that exact comment makes him scum? There are like ~10 other people who think the same, what differs them from OO? I already answered that question on the previous page Sorry, question worded badly. What differs OO from the other people who think the same? Hes good enough to know better. He dropped the opinion in a giant wall of useless text, and used it as a way to marginally work in a reason to vote for you. Given that it is an absolutely wrong opinion, and one that only a scum could stand behind to lynch someone (unless hes extremely bad) he must be scum. Wat. I am extremely bad. Who told you I was good? Did you make that assumption to support your conclusion? I'm good enough to know better? That miller claims should be auto lynched? When we can just lynch people who are acting like mafia? You are telling me that lynching probable town is better than lynching probable scum and in trying to wrap my head around that, I just decided I need to smoke. Thanks for the gesture of good faith, I guess? The fuck am I reading? What reason does town have to make to ever claim miller? Seriously, tell me. All it does is clusterfuck a thread and leaves open ground for mafia to claim as well and thus be cleared as town as he claimed miller. Assume all miller claims are bullshit and kill. If you get red checked you get killed. Its pretty simple. You lynch people who are likely mafia. Town has no reason to ever claim miller EVEN IF THEY KNOW THEY ARE ONE. As all it does is create chaos. IE only mafia have a benefit to claim it thus should be lynched. As for extremely bad? Sorry I've seen you play. You aren't that bad and should be able to follow the logic I just outlined. Its straightforward and extremely basic. self aware millers should claim if the role counts are known, and should be expected to get policy lynched if the game goes on long enough. Otherwise not claiming can be brutal as Scum can claim it first and skate off. Role counts aren't known though so its a moot point. In a role counts game you can have the entire game mass claim and anywhere number of claims differ from whats listed you lynch/vig into thus forcing mafia to hide in the vanilla's or lose.
All these posts come at a time when there was plenty to talk about besides this claim, yet he perpetuated this useless discussion, and has since disappeared while town fawned over lynching me and Oats.
So what happened if both Oats and I are town? The mafia don't care which one dies, since we're both town and seem similar. BC being inactive is a product of how little interest he has in actually finding mafia, because he already knows who they are.
Furthermore, where is the curiosity in his reads? He's CONVINCED that I am mafia from one post taken out of context (something he argues against in his own filter, saying that looking at posts out of context is retarded). He's CONVINCED that OO is mafia, simply because he argues that millers claiming should be allowed.
Why has everyone let him skate by? Just because he wanted to lynch me? Where is his response to my newer contributions? What does he think about Oats, VE, ANYTHING? He doesn't care enough to tell us. Even when he has been active, his responses are shallow and focused on irrelevant things like debate over POLICY LYNCHES.
LYNCH THE COBBLER!
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On April 23 2013 23:34 kushm4sta wrote:
yamato why are you playing so different this game? like no long cases
I just posted my third case of the game.
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On April 23 2013 23:56 Palmar wrote:
BC's town meta is to be awful at day 1, then get lynched.
I'd like to not lynch him later.
VE is still scum.
Then why are you voting Oats?
I'd rather just kill the BC.
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On April 23 2013 23:56 Palmar wrote:
BC's town meta is to be awful at day 1, then get lynched.
I'd like to not lynch him later.
VE is still scum.
Furthermore, letting BC skate by through day 1 just because he's awful as town even on day 1 is bullshit.
I lynch mafia, and BC is mafia.
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