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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 23 2013 08:06 GMT
#1068
I would feel more comfortable if dudes would unvote me, like WoS?

Lol now I know how DrH felt in British 2 when he was 1 vote from a stupid lynch.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 23 2013 08:25 GMT
#1070
On April 23 2013 17:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 17:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 23 2013 16:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
On April 23 2013 16:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 23 2013 16:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
Cause you're both anti town in the dumbest ways possible, but not convinced either of ye are scum just yet. You have a higher chance than most, though. There has also been 0 resistance to both your lynches

Well Vivax did try and derail yamato's lynch with his case So resistance to yamato's lynch.
Also technically your case on sharrent has also been resistance.

Which means that resistance being a factor in someone being scum is bullshit.

I wanna lynch you kinda clarity, you know why?


Yes good point, clearly I should look at myself when I say "there's been no resistance"
Anyway, I'll indulge you, why?

Good, my plan is going welllllll

But main points that have been already said.

Case on totally random dude.
Case is bad because, town give dudes easy outs all the time
Town scattershot questions all the time too. Like non of this is really all that scummy, it seems to be playstyle more than alignment IMO.
So, easy case to make, and it basically allows you to 'look' useful cause whos gonna call out clarity for a bad case? No one.
(Of course you could do this as town too, and thats what I am currently trying to find out)
Ignored main argument of yamato/oats until asked.

Clarity, do you think your meta for scum or town play has changed significantly since the last game you played?


Cause the last 10 pages were all yamato/oats and I had nothing to add, so I focused elsewhere.
Doubt my meta has changed much since last I played, seeing as it was last I played.

And clearly you're wrong about people not calling me out if I make a (subjectively) bad case. Why would you say that?

By call out, i meant, OH SHIT CLARITY SCUMMMMYYYYY.
Which no one did.
That case was really low impact, it came and went.

What do you think about my response to your case?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 23 2013 08:44 GMT
#1072
On April 23 2013 17:38 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 17:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 23 2013 17:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
On April 23 2013 17:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 23 2013 16:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
On April 23 2013 16:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 23 2013 16:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
Cause you're both anti town in the dumbest ways possible, but not convinced either of ye are scum just yet. You have a higher chance than most, though. There has also been 0 resistance to both your lynches

Well Vivax did try and derail yamato's lynch with his case So resistance to yamato's lynch.
Also technically your case on sharrent has also been resistance.

Which means that resistance being a factor in someone being scum is bullshit.

I wanna lynch you kinda clarity, you know why?


Yes good point, clearly I should look at myself when I say "there's been no resistance"
Anyway, I'll indulge you, why?

Good, my plan is going welllllll

But main points that have been already said.

Case on totally random dude.
Case is bad because, town give dudes easy outs all the time
Town scattershot questions all the time too. Like non of this is really all that scummy, it seems to be playstyle more than alignment IMO.
So, easy case to make, and it basically allows you to 'look' useful cause whos gonna call out clarity for a bad case? No one.
(Of course you could do this as town too, and thats what I am currently trying to find out)
Ignored main argument of yamato/oats until asked.

Clarity, do you think your meta for scum or town play has changed significantly since the last game you played?


Cause the last 10 pages were all yamato/oats and I had nothing to add, so I focused elsewhere.
Doubt my meta has changed much since last I played, seeing as it was last I played.

And clearly you're wrong about people not calling me out if I make a (subjectively) bad case. Why would you say that?

By call out, i meant, OH SHIT CLARITY SCUMMMMYYYYY.
Which no one did.
That case was really low impact, it came and went.

What do you think about my response to your case?


*shrugs*, you just called my case weird cause it wasn't a trending topic. You didn't even mention anything regarding my alignment till after Wave's hard defense of him, why is that?

Although I stand by most of my observations in my case, it shouldn't have been made a case yet, shoulda just put it in the notes till I had a little more. Guess I felt like contributing something fresh since I felt guilty for missing the start of the game. It was either post that or post nothing seeing as it was quite late.

I mentioned you now because everyone stopped talking to me, and I wanna actually not be an idiot, and figure the game out.

As in the part about it being playstyle indicative, rather than alignment indicative.
Actually it doesnt matter, never mind.

Do you wanna lynch sharrent today? Or any other scumreads?

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 23 2013 08:54 GMT
#1074
On April 23 2013 17:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
I wouldn't lynch him right now, no. Would want to hear from him first.

Don't have many full fledged opinions yet, but the people I was gonna look into next (that being tonight, have work soon) were gonna be giygas, bc and shiaopi (mainly because I don't remember much of them from reading through the thread)

Yeah do that. Sounds like a good plan
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 23 2013 10:13 GMT
#1080
On April 23 2013 18:47 getmoript wrote:
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On April 23 2013 14:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Geript.
Why do you think I 180ed then? Dont you think it wouldve been in my best interests as scum to try and get really spammy yamato lynched? What is the scum objective of me trying to get people to think of alternative targets rather than yamato?
Seriously? Do you really think you'd be able to bully scum to vote elsewhere especially a vet like VE?

Explain this? I bully scum, means Im not scum? Or what? Scumslip? Or what?

1. I don't care about the 180; I care about voting for a townread
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On April 23 2013 09:32 Oatsmaster wrote:Yamato is really bleh, but I never played in a game with him as scum and this feels like Boardwalk lategame.

and
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On April 23 2013 09:48 yamato77 wrote:
Yeah, Oats' return is not impressive.

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On April 23 2013 09:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
sorry for not writing a 5 page post THAT THIS DUDE IS SCUM.
Can we lynch Ace? I would like to keep his streak of getting mislynched in like almost every game.(scumslip :o)

However the fact that you seem to 180 in the direction of whoever you're talking to/about you 'change' your mind to match their viewpoint at the time is odd. Hell you don't even realize your vote is on Yamato an untenable position until I bring it up. That's pure survival mentality and obvious scum. You seemed more than willing to get yamato lynched when talking to VE but were willing to join yamato's wagon of justice on ace. The wagon on yamato looks like it had come and gone and you were next on the block. I think shifting people back to yamato would've been tougher than shifting them elsewhere.
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On April 23 2013 14:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Explain this? I bully scum, means Im not scum? Or what? Scumslip? Or what?

At that time you were all down for a Scum VE lynch. At the time you were ALSO trying to shift VE's vote onto someone else. You can't tell me it's not weird as shit. Your actions tell me that you know that VE is town but that you aren't willing to say that.

Right. Voting a town read. Except if he was a town read when I typed + Show Spoiler +
££vote yamato
i wouldnt have voted him right? Like you change your mind right? Also I would think that generally scum would care who their vote would be on more rather than town, like when I was scum, yeah voting was a big deal, when Im playing town, I dont care, I just wanna find scum using voting as a tool. What do you do when you stop using a tool? sometimes you forget to put it back into place and just leave it there right? Yeah that exactly what happened.
About VE. You are making a whole lotta assumptions there, I wanted VE to clarify his position as it was not really clear from his previous statement. You somehow made that into I wanted to bully my scum read into voting for someone I wanted to lynch. Right. I dont see the connection there.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 23 2013 10:22 GMT
#1081
On April 23 2013 18:24 Palmar wrote:
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On April 23 2013 17:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
I wouldn't lynch him right now, no. Would want to hear from him first.

Don't have many full fledged opinions yet, but the people I was gonna look into next (that being tonight, have work soon) were gonna be giygas, bc and shiaopi (mainly because I don't remember much of them from reading through the thread)

sup scum

Remember this?
On April 21 2013 19:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On April 21 2013 19:36 Palmar wrote:
On April 21 2013 18:28 Vivax wrote:
Well I don't care that you say no, I'll treat everyone who posted before me as confirmed town for a while.


I think the absurdity and yet strange value of this heuristic makes Vivax very likely to be town. To the point that almost nothing would make me want to lynch him today.

Discuss.

oh god palmar rolled scum

hehehehe

Also where is your 1/2 day 1 rethink of the game?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 23 2013 11:16 GMT
#1083
Case refuted somewhere.

That case is old news. Anything else since that case happened that either weakened or strengthened your read?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 23 2013 12:42 GMT
#1087
On April 23 2013 21:22 Vivax wrote:
Me and ace are basically the only ones asking people to switch to Oats, others say "can do", others say it looks like a policy, or try to push other cases.

If this was a wagon on a townie, scum could be pushing it easily at this point.
Why didn't any of this happen yet? There's resistance here.

Again, worst reasoning ever.
Cause im town. Yeah.

Hopeless. Why am I scum?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 23 2013 13:00 GMT
#1095
On April 23 2013 21:55 Vivax wrote:
Or yamato, for that matter.
Both are valid targets.

Somebody show me the color of Oats blood pls

Its green.

Good pushing though, but your reads really need to improve

Get off your tunnel, look at my filter again please. yamato is really good at this, you, not so much.
Also you havent answered my previous question, has your reads changed in the light of the recent posts by me?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 23 2013 13:29 GMT
#1098
On April 23 2013 22:20 Vivax wrote:
Here, I have a more scientific approach. Oats' posting frequency.

Before case:
22 posts between 21 – ~17:00 and 23 – 00:43 - 29:34 difference – 0.71 posts per hour

After case and bandwagon started:
39 posts between 23 – 00:43 and 23:22 – 22:39 h – difference – 1.74 posts per hour

Before case: Weird shit between TRM/WoS/Sharrent and others so yeah I DIDNT POST. MY FAULT.

After case: Game got interesting, real interesting. Interesting games means that you are more inclined to post right?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 23 2013 13:36 GMT
#1101
On April 23 2013 22:35 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 22:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 23 2013 22:20 Vivax wrote:
Here, I have a more scientific approach. Oats' posting frequency.

Before case:
22 posts between 21 – ~17:00 and 23 – 00:43 - 29:34 difference – 0.71 posts per hour

After case and bandwagon started:
39 posts between 23 – 00:43 and 23:22 – 22:39 h – difference – 1.74 posts per hour

Before case: Weird shit between TRM/WoS/Sharrent and others so yeah I DIDNT POST. MY FAULT.

After case: Game got interesting, real interesting. Interesting games means that you are more inclined to post right?

So your not willing to play and try to make it interesting?

No, I have nothing to post so I dont post.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 23 2013 13:44 GMT
#1105
On April 23 2013 22:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 21:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 23 2013 21:22 Vivax wrote:
Me and ace are basically the only ones asking people to switch to Oats, others say "can do", others say it looks like a policy, or try to push other cases.

If this was a wagon on a townie, scum could be pushing it easily at this point.
Why didn't any of this happen yet? There's resistance here.

Again, worst reasoning ever.
Cause im town. Yeah.

Hopeless. Why am I scum?

I think you're too trolly in the face of dieing to be town. I'm not even certain you have a scum read on anyone at all. You've provided next to nothing. A shitty list post where your strongest scum read is "well someone has to be scum, why not Ace". gtfo.

And your strongest scumread is someone who you havent talked about all game. Good show. GOOD SHOW.

I dont know who I want to lynch RIGHT NOW, and the good thing about instant majority, we can take as long as we want.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 23 2013 14:02 GMT
#1108
Oh and Im supposed to claim at L-1 right?

IM VANILLA TOWNIE.
REJOICE AT THE FACT THAT IM TOWN AND NOW WE CAN LYNCH SCUM
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 23 2013 15:10 GMT
#1134
On April 24 2013 00:03 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 00:02 yamato77 wrote:
Let's not hammer Oats when his wagon is just a carbon copy of mine.

Kthnxbye.


Yet you actually provide something for us to go off in comparison to Oats.

Again bullshit that I dont post a 5 page case = I am not useful.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 23 2013 15:20 GMT
#1152
Everyone on me, Get off me.

Lynch Hopeless/Shao pi, other dudes who provide FUCK ALL REASONING.
There has been no reasoning at all why im scum since I came back. Stop this stupid lynch.
Give town time, DONT FUCKING HAMMER AND MISLYNCH.

Ok. Thanks
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 23 2013 15:22 GMT
#1155
On April 24 2013 00:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
uhh according to the official counts, Oats is hammered

uhhh according to my very accurate reads. You are scum.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 02 2013 09:32 GMT
#4195
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 18 2013 04:18 GMT
#5979
I blame all the vets for saying that geript was confirmed town. '
All of you are horrible and should be extinguished!

giggles was totes scum with his first post
Guys, first posts that are a significant way into day 1 are important,.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 20 2013 17:02 GMT
#6001
I blame Palmar for this blemish on my record.
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