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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 29 2013 18:21 GMT
#3224
On April 29 2013 21:49 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Sanity doesnt flip on death.

That sucks, lynch shaiopi tomorrow, d2 looks like it was between 2 scum after all.

Where did we learn sanity doesn't flip? I don't see it anywhere.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 29 2013 18:24 GMT
#3226
On April 30 2013 03:22 yamato77 wrote:
HOLY FUCK

LOOK AT THAT

you're so cool yamato. so cool.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 29 2013 18:27 GMT
#3231
On April 30 2013 03:25 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:16 Stutters695 wrote:
As I've said, I'm in the midst of finals and replacing in was really a mistake. Yet despite that, in my minute filter I've already said more than Shiao. Haven't really looked at giggles.


I'm not sure how I feel about this quote. Stutters calling GiygaS "giggles" reads to me as someone who has more familiarity with the thread than Stutters would. It seems more likely a habit that would be picked up from quickly chatting with people in the scum QT to try and figure out what his best move would be.

Does anyone else get that vibe, or am I reaching on this?

Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:19 yamato77 wrote:
Wondering where hopelesswunder went


I'm wondering where the conversation about Hopeless1der went. You are making me a little sad that I didn't post my alliteration about Ace's actions and accusations.

I got swept underneath the cop claimings and whatnot. I think the best course of action is to verify whether sanity gets flipped and then follow through on CC's claims, pending NK information.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 29 2013 18:29 GMT
#3234
On April 30 2013 03:26 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 29 2013 21:49 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Sanity doesnt flip on death.

That sucks, lynch shaiopi tomorrow, d2 looks like it was between 2 scum after all.

Where did we learn sanity doesn't flip? I don't see it anywhere.


Do you think it's scummy he's saying that, when you don't know?

I don't know if he A) got a PM from a mod, B) got it from a QT somewhere, C) its actually in the thread and I'm blind or D)he's talking out of his ass. Its kind of important to know if the information is in fact available in case we decide to for whatever reason lynch a cop before his claim.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 29 2013 18:34 GMT
#3240
On April 30 2013 03:31 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:26 Sharrant wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 29 2013 21:49 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Sanity doesnt flip on death.

That sucks, lynch shaiopi tomorrow, d2 looks like it was between 2 scum after all.

Where did we learn sanity doesn't flip? I don't see it anywhere.


Do you think it's scummy he's saying that, when you don't know?

I don't know if he A) got a PM from a mod, B) got it from a QT somewhere, C) its actually in the thread and I'm blind or D)he's talking out of his ass. Its kind of important to know if the information is in fact available in case we decide to for whatever reason lynch a cop before his claim.


That wasn't an answer. That was a summary of options. Do you think it is scummy that he is claiming knowledge not readily available in the thread?

Uhhhhh yes?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 29 2013 18:40 GMT
#3244
On April 30 2013 03:37 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:32 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:25 Sharrant wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:16 Stutters695 wrote:
As I've said, I'm in the midst of finals and replacing in was really a mistake. Yet despite that, in my minute filter I've already said more than Shiao. Haven't really looked at giggles.


I'm not sure how I feel about this quote. Stutters calling GiygaS "giggles" reads to me as someone who has more familiarity with the thread than Stutters would. It seems more likely a habit that would be picked up from quickly chatting with people in the scum QT to try and figure out what his best move would be.

Does anyone else get that vibe, or am I reaching on this?
.


I called him giggleS recently, and I believe that post was in response to something I said.


Ah, that makes sense. Very well, then.

Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:31 Sharrant wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:26 Sharrant wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 29 2013 21:49 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Sanity doesnt flip on death.

That sucks, lynch shaiopi tomorrow, d2 looks like it was between 2 scum after all.

Where did we learn sanity doesn't flip? I don't see it anywhere.


Do you think it's scummy he's saying that, when you don't know?

I don't know if he A) got a PM from a mod, B) got it from a QT somewhere, C) its actually in the thread and I'm blind or D)he's talking out of his ass. Its kind of important to know if the information is in fact available in case we decide to for whatever reason lynch a cop before his claim.


That wasn't an answer. That was a summary of options. Do you think it is scummy that he is claiming knowledge not readily available in the thread?

Uhhhhh yes?


And what is it that makes that scummy to you? I see it much more likely being a town tell. There's the possibility a mafia could make that post, but it seems much more likely to come from town in my opinion.

I don't have the information. He seems to have it and I want to know how he has it. It helps to decide how I want to follow the cop claim chains or if I just want to say fuck it and scumhunt like a normal person. If you think its a towntell, enlighten me. I cannot tell what the fuck you want from me here.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 29 2013 19:33 GMT
#3259
On April 30 2013 04:26 yamato77 wrote:
Mr. CC confirmed telling truth.

No reason to be suspicious that he asked a question about his own role to the host.

hopeless=mafia

coolstorybro
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 30 2013 13:39 GMT
#3575
On April 30 2013 22:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
OK so as I have been thinking recently.

We know there is one jailkeeper running around.
We know there are 3 dt claims(one now dead)
We know there is one mason still masoning, and one who is dead
We know we have 1 dead miller and 1 claimed miller(wos)
We know a mafia vig and a mafia framer are dead
We know a second rb happened n1. This means
a) palmar is lying
b) I am lying
c) An inactive town is a jailkeeper and has been mia for all nights since.

Given 2 millers, 1 framer. I find it extremely unlikely that we have two dts who have fucked up sanities. Insane is very easy to prove, as is insane. We know based on checks that obviousone is town, and palmar has a guilty check on him, I know I am town and he has a guilty check on me. Given that we have only been seeing 1 rb since n1 and joats can't rb as a power I am inclined to say Palmar is scum.

We know 100% that shiaopi is scum based on CC however I believe Palmar should be dealt with next at this time.

I pretty much agree with all of this, except ShiaoPi could have been framed so its not 100%. Nevertheless, the correct move is to lynch him right now.

##Vote:ShiaoPi
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 30 2013 13:46 GMT
#3582
On April 30 2013 22:40 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 22:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
OK so as I have been thinking recently.

We know there is one jailkeeper running around.
We know there are 3 dt claims(one now dead)
We know there is one mason still masoning, and one who is dead
We know we have 1 dead miller and 1 claimed miller(wos)
We know a mafia vig and a mafia framer are dead
We know a second rb happened n1. This means
a) palmar is lying
b) I am lying
c) An inactive town is a jailkeeper and has been mia for all nights since.

Given 2 millers, 1 framer. I find it extremely unlikely that we have two dts who have fucked up sanities. Insane is very easy to prove, as is insane. We know based on checks that obviousone is town, and palmar has a guilty check on him, I know I am town and he has a guilty check on me. Given that we have only been seeing 1 rb since n1 and joats can't rb as a power I am inclined to say Palmar is scum.

We know 100% that shiaopi is scum based on CC however I believe Palmar should be dealt with next at this time.

...you mean sane?

i'm not going to rely on ___ is town or ___ is scum based upon checks until I see some/a flip(s)

On April 29 2013 10:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hell. I didn't want to claim but fuck I guess I have to now that Palmar is being retarded if he really is another cop.

I'm an Alignment Cop

NIGHT 1 = SHIAOPI INNOCENT

NIGHT 2 = SYLENCIA GUILTY

I wanted to lynch ShaioPi yesterday because I didn't know his alignment despite my check. It would help confirm my sanity. I now know that I cannot be paranoid or naiive, so I'm sane or insane. I'm going to trust Shia is town based on yesterdays events. I am SANE. Sylencia is mafia.

I didn't think I'd have to claim today if I could just case Syl T.T

On April 29 2013 15:58 Blazinghand wrote:
Night 3

Sylencia the Brave Wizard is dead




Night 3 lasts for 24 hours from this post. gogo.


Most likely conclusion:
Mr.CC was insane.

Alternatives: Framer problems. I don't think naivety/paranoia can result in two different checks regardless of framing, millers etc.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 30 2013 13:48 GMT
#3584
On April 30 2013 22:44 TheRavensName wrote:
So random question, if there is only 1 scum, based off the front page does that mean they get 0 kp? Because it doesn't say minimum of one. If so, then we can defently figure out if we have a sk or not.

I tentatively accuse Ace of being SP.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 30 2013 13:51 GMT
#3585
Does Mafia KP have a minimum value or is it possible to have 0 factional KP?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 30 2013 14:33 GMT
#3598
ShiaoPi is at L-1. Hammer with care.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 30 2013 15:19 GMT
#3622
On May 01 2013 00:13 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 00:01 yamato77 wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:48 ShiaoPi wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:47 yamato77 wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:43 ShiaoPi wrote:
yo guys,
kill gigyas, stutters and VE thats the scum team and kush or the cobbler are 3rd party....

What is this supposed to be?


Just leaving behind my point of view, before someone stupid hammers me

Looks like a WifomBomb®


you dont say?
Lets kill yamato too while we are at it

so you're calling three scum, two 3rd parties and a Planar Dragon in there somewhere?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
May 01 2013 15:13 GMT
#4021
On May 01 2013 16:01 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 15:55 ObviousOne wrote:
You could say that based on that, him living another day seems pretty



Hopeless

I award you THREE OO-points and may God have mercy on his soul.

I wonder how many times Hopeless has seen that joke. That is a pretty damn good case on the dude though.

Page 80: MUST KEEP GOING.

I aint even mad

Decent work Yamato. It only took you a year to finally put it together. I find it very alarming that no one else has taken the time to actually sit down and explain why i'm scummy up until now, and sadly there arent enough scum remaining for me to accuse the sheep. I'm hoping VE clears me somehow, not that anyone will believe it.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
May 01 2013 15:39 GMT
#4027
On May 02 2013 00:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yamato the Hopeless case is sound.

That wasn't so hard was it?

its still false, but I dont disagree...
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
May 01 2013 22:04 GMT
#4098
Reasons palmar is likely to flip red in my eyes:

- Eager to look active by declaring Vivax town for a really stupid reason. I've been through this before, as noted by why most people accused me of being scum in the first place.
- pointing out "modkillable" behavior but neglecting to follow through in any form:
(from VE's filter)
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 26 2013 05:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Something else that really bothers me is that a couple of times Palmar has talked about players who should be modkilled or how HE modkills in his games (like that's pertinent to finding scum in the LEAST anyway)

Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 06:06 Palmar wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:33 getmoript wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:29 Blazinghand wrote:
Marvellosity (and only marvellosity) has been removed from the game for repeated refusal to follow the rules for out of game communication and being a dick to me.

Please keep all discussions of modkills until the post-game.

Getmoript has not been modkilled.


Ok. I'll tell you how it is given BH is being an enormous megalomaniac.

geript and I had a QT made for ourselves, which we have been using quite happily. BH decided that we should use the QT that he made, because he's a power-mad weirdo.

I said we're fine with the QT that geript and I made thank you, and BH is now swinging his dick around, saying we're forced to use a QT that he made, despite the rules saying nothing about this, and despite the rules only having this restriction, which we followed:

On March 22 2013 20:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Hydras:
If one of the players would like to hydra with someone else, that is acceptable. Please inform me. Your hydra can have any name, but the signature should be something like "Hydra of Blazinghand and Ange777 for TL Mafia LXI" so that people know what's up.


There were no such rules for out-of-game communication other than that that BlazingHand just edited in to the rules so that he'd be justified being a douchebag.

Anyway, glhf everyone!!

~marv



tbh this should result in a modkill.

It's super unfair to the mafia that he's allowed to reveal information about the nature of the hydra and how it interacts with the host that results in everyone just assuming they're town.

It's also super unfair to town if they're somehow mafia despite all this.

Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 05:44 Palmar wrote:
On April 25 2013 05:35 Ace wrote:
Green font it and see if the mods make that info public.


well yeah. In my games you get modkilled for directly asking the host a question in the thread, although I guess I also run my games a bit differently. In fact, what I did, imply that I was going to ask the host a question would probably get me modkilled in my own game anyway.

So I wish I had just kept my mouth shut about it until BH clarified.

thanks BH, for explaining.


But when it comes to actual real modkillable offenses he's completely silent. Like tube's lack of posting for example. Why is Palmar ignoring tube, a player who has made literally one post in the game when Palmar has said the following?

Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 00:48 Palmar wrote:
also being inactive in this game is unusally scummy because BH sent a pm to everyone in the game 24 hours before the game started which required a response to be in the game.

So everyone here is fully aware when the game started and reminded of it very close to the start of the game. So being afk or saying nothing is almost inexcusable.



- case of the cba, even now in the face of the next point:
- Unverified cop claim, which is now thought to be "paranoid". Grats on trying to get BC lynched for no good reason.
- he's alive (so are Ace and BC, but Palmar looks worst of the vets)




I'm going to try to filter through all the players remaining and read dump tonight/tomorrow morning, so try not to hammer me before I do that please and thank you.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
May 02 2013 00:29 GMT
#4114
He literally quoted it...can we lynch giggles for failure to read?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
May 02 2013 02:00 GMT
#4139
On May 02 2013 10:40 yamato77 wrote:
VE is wrong.

It happens, you know.

I kinda want to say fuck it and watch town burn for this.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
May 02 2013 02:04 GMT
#4142
yeah but bashing VE after all the work hes done? fuck you bro
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
May 02 2013 02:07 GMT
#4145
But Yamato, I AM town.
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