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TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 23 2013 01:11 GMT
#992
So is more scummy that Yamato stopped trolling when he was about to die, or that Oats is just not giving up on it and continuing to be useless?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 23 2013 01:23 GMT
#999
On April 23 2013 10:17 Bill Murray wrote:
check out "drazak"
he has already come out with an excuse, and he has made, from what I can tell, 2 one liners. He was around for 45 minutes, but only read 2 pages? Seems like he had to catch up on a scum quicktime/topic/whatever it's called by that timeframe

I always vote people when they come back saying that. Sure, he might not feel well, but his thread image was in no way suffering. Why the excuses? Lurkerish behavior + that time frame fits mafia needs...

##vote: drazak

This is a good point... considering there are plenty of other people who haven't even posted yet, if he just showed up late day 1 he probably would have been better off.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 23 2013 01:24 GMT
#1000
Oats: Why not read so many peoples posts? What if they bring up points that help you flesh out your scum reads or point out something you can run with?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 23 2013 12:47 GMT
#1089
On April 23 2013 21:44 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 21:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 23 2013 21:22 Vivax wrote:
Me and ace are basically the only ones asking people to switch to Oats, others say "can do", others say it looks like a policy, or try to push other cases.

If this was a wagon on a townie, scum could be pushing it easily at this point.
Why didn't any of this happen yet? There's resistance here.

Again, worst reasoning ever.
Cause im town. Yeah.

Hopeless. Why am I scum?


don't even care if you're scum. throwing suspicion on your emperor should be punishable by death.

I thought you were a king....
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 23 2013 12:53 GMT
#1090
I'm not sure why Clarity's case is being called completly random.... I mean Ray, Sharrant, and I both ended up making cases on each other that were mostly ignored in all the spamfest, so I think it has at least some merrit if nothing else. Not much came of them but it did happen. I would have saved it till night though personally Clarity, I'm not sure your going to convince people that lynching one of the more active spammers is better then someone who at least a few people have a town read on.You really should make a comment on the current lynch targets instead.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 23 2013 12:53 GMT
#1091
On April 23 2013 21:22 Vivax wrote:
Me and ace are basically the only ones asking people to switch to Oats, others say "can do", others say it looks like a policy, or try to push other cases.

If this was a wagon on a townie, scum could be pushing it easily at this point.
Why didn't any of this happen yet? There's resistance here.

What if they already are? Dun dun Dun!
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 23 2013 13:24 GMT
#1097
On April 23 2013 22:20 Vivax wrote:
Here, I have a more scientific approach. Oats' posting frequency.

Before case:
22 posts between 21 – ~17:00 and 23 – 00:43 - 29:34 difference – 0.71 posts per hour

After case and bandwagon started:
39 posts between 23 – 00:43 and 23:22 – 22:39 h – difference – 1.74 posts per hour

So he did he same thing Yamto did... can I see the math on his as well?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 23 2013 13:35 GMT
#1099
On April 23 2013 22:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 22:20 Vivax wrote:
Here, I have a more scientific approach. Oats' posting frequency.

Before case:
22 posts between 21 – ~17:00 and 23 – 00:43 - 29:34 difference – 0.71 posts per hour

After case and bandwagon started:
39 posts between 23 – 00:43 and 23:22 – 22:39 h – difference – 1.74 posts per hour

Before case: Weird shit between TRM/WoS/Sharrent and others so yeah I DIDNT POST. MY FAULT.

After case: Game got interesting, real interesting. Interesting games means that you are more inclined to post right?

So your not willing to play and try to make it interesting?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 23 2013 13:40 GMT
#1103
On April 23 2013 22:36 Vivax wrote:
Whatever, you're at L-1, dead. If you're town you shouldn't jumping around hysterically, but tell us who we should look at after your flip.

TRN, if you want to have yamato lynched instead of Oats, it's not my job to find arguments for you. I'd want to have Oats lynched first.

No, its your job to convince me that Oat's style is worse than Yamato when they have basically done the same thing, except Oats has kept trolling and Yamato changed to save himself and has for the most part vanished after the focus shifted to Oats.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 23 2013 13:40 GMT
#1104
On April 23 2013 22:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 22:35 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 23 2013 22:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 23 2013 22:20 Vivax wrote:
Here, I have a more scientific approach. Oats' posting frequency.

Before case:
22 posts between 21 – ~17:00 and 23 – 00:43 - 29:34 difference – 0.71 posts per hour

After case and bandwagon started:
39 posts between 23 – 00:43 and 23:22 – 22:39 h – difference – 1.74 posts per hour

Before case: Weird shit between TRM/WoS/Sharrent and others so yeah I DIDNT POST. MY FAULT.

After case: Game got interesting, real interesting. Interesting games means that you are more inclined to post right?

So your not willing to play and try to make it interesting?

No, I have nothing to post so I dont post.

That hasn't stopped you so far......
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 23 2013 13:55 GMT
#1107
On April 23 2013 22:47 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 22:40 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 23 2013 22:36 Vivax wrote:
Whatever, you're at L-1, dead. If you're town you shouldn't jumping around hysterically, but tell us who we should look at after your flip.

TRN, if you want to have yamato lynched instead of Oats, it's not my job to find arguments for you. I'd want to have Oats lynched first.

No, its your job to convince me that Oat's style is worse than Yamato when they have basically done the same thing, except Oats has kept trolling and Yamato changed to save himself and has for the most part vanished after the focus shifted to Oats.


Don't worry, if no one vigs him tonight, there will be plenty of opportunity tomorrow to take care of yamato. It's not unlikely at all that they're both scum, given that yamato seemed to work against Oats' lynch when he claimed to have him as scum earlier.

I like the bolded part quite a bit as evidence agaist Yamato. Oats doesn't seem to care too much about if Yamato would die, And also:

On March 22 2013 20:48 Blazinghand wrote:

Remus Lupin (Vigilante): You may not shoot during Night 1.



I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 23 2013 14:20 GMT
#1110
Off to class, won't get back in time to post for a while: But I will say I'm not sure oats is scum... but do you think he could have rolled 3rd party and Yam was just trying to distance himself from what he thought would be a mislynch thinking he was town?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 23 2013 23:05 GMT
#1274
Oh look, WoS asking questions and then doing nothing with them again. You have no analysis of anyone that isn't "But I'll wait to see what happens before I do anything with it." Which isn't really scum hunting, its more like pretending to be scum hunting and giving you an excuse not to follow up on. Someone look at his filter, and see most of the people he makes any accusation or comment on are: I guess he could be this but I'm hesittant and not really sure. Did you actually make any reads your willing to stand by? You call Sharant a couple of times in after the whole exchange me and Ray had with him, but you never actually state why you think hes town or even say it unless its in response to people making case against him. It almost seems like you want to protect him and then just not have any flat out reasons that can be analyzed and no real analysis of a connection between the two of you if one of you died.

At the very least, I would like to see you explain your town read on him since all you have said so far is "I have a super strong town read on him." and not actually went into WHY you have a town read on him
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 23 2013 23:07 GMT
#1275
On April 24 2013 08:05 TheRavensName wrote:
Oh look, WoS asking questions and then doing nothing with them again. You have no analysis of anyone that isn't "But I'll wait to see what happens before I do anything with it." Which isn't really scum hunting, its more like pretending to be scum hunting and giving you an excuse not to follow up on. Someone look at his filter, and see most of the people he makes any accusation or comment on are: I guess he could be this but I'm hesittant and not really sure. Did you actually make any reads your willing to stand by? You call Sharant a couple of times in after the whole exchange me and Ray had with him, but you never actually state why you think hes town or even say it unless its in response to people making case against him. It almost seems like you want to protect him and then just not have any flat out reasons that can be analyzed and no real analysis of a connection between the two of you if one of you died.

At the very least, I would like to see you explain your town read on him since all you have said so far is "I have a super strong town read on him." and not actually went into WHY you have a town read on him


Adding to this, most of WoS posts about Sharrant also come after Sharrant posted something and he is trying to explain something to him or back it up, or someone just accused Sharrant of something.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 24 2013 02:05 GMT
#1290
On April 24 2013 10:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The problem is that you have a shitton of questions in your filter and none of them seem to lead you into any kind of a conclusion. I have gone though your filter for two times now to understand what are you trying to do in this game (how your posting = you trying to find scum) and i don't just see it.

This sumerizes what I was trying to say on the previous page.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 24 2013 02:15 GMT
#1293
On April 24 2013 11:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
TRN, do you have any other candidates for scum?

I would want to look at Sharant and someone who attacked Clarity's case against Sharant.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 24 2013 02:59 GMT
#1295
On April 24 2013 11:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I would like to see what Sharrant contributes next when he comes back. I think he is town atm.
Do you think Clarity's case was well thought out? I think he only pointed out the facts that speak against Sharrant from his filter and left Sharrant's real contributions out.

So your thinking one scum buddied him up the other is going after him? That could be but.. I feel like Clarity's entrance doesn't make sense from a scum point, and attacking him was really easy to do for scum, enough that it should at least be looked at.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 24 2013 06:30 GMT
#1304
WoS In the face of accusation just says they are dumb, does nothing to prevent them because he says we are not threats and there isno way he has to waste his time because we can't draw enough of a crowd... is this really a town mentality?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 24 2013 11:42 GMT
#1354
On April 24 2013 17:32 yamato77 wrote:
He was after TRN, which he later dropped, and rightly so. His case was meh, but his conclusion that TRN was likely town is not one I would see a mafia in Sharrant's position make.


Why did he drop the case? He pushed me a little bit then voted, and then dropped it before I could even respond and once he saw a bunch of people go: "Eh I think hes just a noob." He never even made a comment on my response and Shaopi correctly points out curiously why he never followed up on me and he gives no real expliantion as to why I'm suddenly town outside of not fully trusting Rayn, which I'm not sure is the best evidence in all actuality.

Also I'm just curious because truth be told, I dislike WoS right now a lot more then I dislike Sharrant... do you think some of the points me and Rayn brought up before on shar make sense? He has a four page filter and a similar contribution level as yourself Yamato, which is impressive considering you spent the first half of the game trolling.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 24 2013 11:52 GMT
#1355
On April 24 2013 20:42 TheRavensName wrote:
Also I'm just curious because truth be told, I dislike WoS right now a lot more then I dislike Sharrant... do you think some of the points me and Rayn brought up before on shar make sense? He has a four page filter and a similar contribution level as yourself Yamato, which is impressive considering you spent the first half of the game trolling.


EBWOP: I meant on WoS before he moved onto Shar
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