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Bill Murray
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On April 23 2013 08:53 Ace wrote: Thanks for the suggestion Bill. Make sure everyone who posts in this thread has correct grammar. Honestly, though, a policy lynch on sillyness/inactivity is a cancerous growth to the town we lynch on slips, checks, and logic | ||
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Bill Murray
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I feel like his case is subjective, where it's largely meta based, and that's the reason I agree with it. I don't feel like he has much objectivity with it... in fact, he keeps saying he's going to be trying to catch the entire team, but I have only seen him tunneling, in general... sorry to overgeneralize i'll try to be more specific... he's beating a dead horse | ||
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Bill Murray
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On April 23 2013 09:11 WaveofShadow wrote: Anyway to sum it up, I'm more sure of an Oats lynch than yamato; a lot of conflicted things going on with him that I just can't be sure of. Now, Because you're obviously town and obviously searching in the wrong places. I'll indulge though because I know what it was like in my first big game; I see much of myself in you, young padawan. If you'd actually read my filter, you calling me wishy-washy doesn't make sense at all. I've had definite reads all game; just because I haven't voted anyone yet or had a very strong scumread doesn't make me scum. I don't have to post massive cases on people to be scumhunting. Those will come later. scum have definite reads; scum have the playerlist, in a sense Let me ask you something: What is your viewpoint of the game if both Oats, and VE are town? What credit would you take for a switch to Oats working, if he flipped town? Who would you want to lynch if Oats flipped town? Name at least 3-4 people, please... reasoning unnecessary, but wanted | ||
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Bill Murray
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On April 23 2013 09:12 yamato77 wrote: Do you want me to talk about someone other than VE? I could talk about BC Don't talk about: BC, Oats, Me, Vivax, kushm4sta (or anyone else deterring your wagon) talk about: Ace (not his interaction with bc, though), Palmar, lurkers (preferably people you wouldn't expect to be lurking... for me, dr.h) | ||
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On April 23 2013 09:17 yamato77 wrote: Well, there are 3 replacements being called for. Not gonna try to divine alignment from people that aren't playing. Ace is a tricky one. The case I posted earlier before his interaction with BC was kinda bad, but I don't understand how he developed a scum read on me whatsoever. what is your opinion on King Palmar? | ||
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On April 23 2013 09:21 Palmar wrote: Bill Murray is the towniest fucker in this thread. you know something is wrong, when^ | ||
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On April 23 2013 09:21 WaveofShadow wrote: I didn't say VE is scum. I said an inactive VE is often scum. but I was thankful that he has started posting more because that probably means he's NOT scum and fits with my townread. Don't put words in my mouth, Vivax. Objective was the wrong word to use, yeah. What I meant was everything he says about VE makes sense considering his actions in the games I've played with him, but again there's something in VE's play that has been assuring me he's town...I'll call it a gutread. If Oats flipped town? I'd honestly be tempted to destroy a lot of the lurk going on but they're probably getting replaced and I also know that's not great right now. As far as 'active' posters go ShiaoPi's attack on a town Sharrant doesn't look great to me. I don't have other strong scumreads atm and am going to have to go through and look if you want more than that. No, you're doing great. I have no desire to see you cast off the island... Impressed with your play thusfar. Objective was fitting... and I believed I knew what you meant... which you have since confirmed... so great! No need to get more in depth.. It's d1. The fact that you posted what you just did in relation to it, regarding your conclusion, has my mind at ease, at least. Good post. On April 23 2013 09:25 Ace wrote: ##vote Oatsmaster Think he's the better lynch looking at Vivax's list. Too many people prefer Oats but haven't changed to it so I will do so. yamato just being useless, eventual vigi bait. ace: if he's "eventual vigi bait", why not go ahead and lynch him? On April 23 2013 09:27 yamato77 wrote: I am not being useless, lol. Just because I don't listen to you does not make me a good vigi shot. you're being useless, but your wagon/lynch is creating a ton of thread information... you're being directly useless, but not indirectly. I'm trying to help you, because I think you're town, and will unvote you when we get a decent wagon on someone I consider to be scummier than you... I guess that being said, my vote on you is largely policy, which *gasp* would normally make me a hypocrite, because I fall in the "worthless" category, but lo and behold, I'm not being worthless this game - your wagon has sparked my interest in this game... you and VE show me what is wrong with me as a human being On April 23 2013 09:28 Vivax wrote: Well, uh. Who are your strong scumreads? I wasn't putting words in your mouth, I simply said what it looked like to me, you're free to correct me. I might add though that you give me a very defensive impression, you seem to not like talking with me about this stuff at all to the point of asking me for justification for my questions. So I'd like to talk a little more to see if the doubts are unfounded: The thing regarding the double bus quote you picked up, why didn't you say outright that you don't think both can be scum, but at the time where you posted it, you didn't really make a choice between the two, or comment on my case? You admitted that you were putting the thought out there that both couldn't be scum without saying it outright and instead asked others. But you say that you don't know if yamato is scum. Yet you didn't outright vote for Oats, and instead only recently claimed your preference of Oats in an earlier post, as shown in my chronology? @vivax Do you believe that you are overgeneralizing, grasping at straws, or barking up the wrong tree, here? I do... You realize both of them being scum is highly unlikely, right? If you want to make a huge list of who is scum, that's great - your posting has been largely helpful - you've been making cases, keeping lists, and interacting great in the thread, but your mind is all over the place. I'd like to see you focus on the more likely scenarios, than pursuing the crazy ones. On April 23 2013 09:29 VisceraEyes wrote: Maybe the shit you give me stings more cause I like you.  Whatever, the point is that I'm clearly trying to find scum and you're like ignoring that fact. Also yamato looks scummy as shit and you're throwing in your lot with him. Palmar-Thats-Never-Wrong is a friend and I miss him. Why don't you see if you can conjure that dude up? @VE scummy =/= scum I agree with Palmar on this I want to see the VE that always has me nervous when I'M scum On April 23 2013 09:38 yamato77 wrote: I'm pretty sure he's town. Why do you think otherwise? You're seeming more and more town to me. Hell, I might be willing to vote a veteran over you at this point... I'm going to officially unvote. Nice job for your alignment, either way. Snuffed out my fire. Maybe Ace unvoting you was the breath of fresh air you needed to actually start playing to help us scumhunt. On April 23 2013 10:00 Oatsmaster wrote: Dont worry, I did ^_^. ![[image loading]](http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/4/45311/1289904-bowing.jpg) King Palmar so town. can we keep this guy around, at least to amuse me? He's like the court jester.... and you don't lynch the fool! | ||
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On April 23 2013 10:01 Ace wrote: Ones in bold need to follow through and vote for Oats. im going to go read the oats case... he is definitely being silly, and i wouldnt mind seeing him go i will give you all a more solid opinion on this matter momentarily | ||
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he has already come out with an excuse, and he has made, from what I can tell, 2 one liners. He was around for 45 minutes, but only read 2 pages? Seems like he had to catch up on a scum quicktime/topic/whatever it's called by that timeframe I always vote people when they come back saying that. Sure, he might not feel well, but his thread image was in no way suffering. Why the excuses? Lurkerish behavior + that time frame fits mafia needs... ##vote: drazak | ||
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On April 23 2013 10:34 Clarity_nl wrote: I am here now and catching up, did not expect this game to start so soon, sorry. one hour later has read the entire game and made a case on sharrant? his case is really tunnely, and reaching, as well FoS Clarity | ||
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Bill Murray
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On April 23 2013 11:34 Bill Murray wrote: one hour later has read the entire game and made a case on sharrant? his case is really tunnely, and reaching, as well FoS Clarity | ||
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Clarity is reaching as scum More logical of a vote than mine currently ##Vote Clarity_NL | ||
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Cheesecake called Clarity's case tunnely/nitpicky... I literally used the word tunnely WoS comes in and uses the word reaching... and lo and behold... after I said tunnely... I said reaching Scum are piggybacking my wording to get a lynch imo | ||
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On April 24 2013 07:02 Vivax wrote: The explanation doesn't add up at all. Starts reading -> Says I'm here after 2h-> case after 1 h -> BM calls him out saying the case is bad and made in just one hour -> Clarity answers "Yeah well I figured I'd say hi after seeing that I didn't post anything -> Vivax calls him out again for quick case -> Clarity: "Yeah well I actually read for 3 hours." Why does he answer to BM, talking about clarity's case being bad and the short time (second post), with a justification for his entrance post (first post)? ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Clarity could have replied, as town: "I actually read for 3 hours, so what's your problem with my case?" But Clarity was scared that his case looked scummy cause of BM's reaction, so he instead posted a justification for his late entrance, which he knew looked bad, and felt guilty for. And he didn't want to correct BM in saying that he read for so long precisely cause he'd have had less justification to explain the bad case. Now that he's being pressured for the short time in which the case was written, he gives another justification where he actually claims that he was reading for a longer time. When BM pressured him, he wanted to make it look like he made something in haste by arguing that he wanted to post before the hammer. Now that it's exactly the point against him, he says that he was actually reading for a longer time. he's lying he claims he read the thread in an hour. try reading 50 pages in an hour. Drazak/Clarity have both spent about the same time "catching up" if you notice - around 45 minutes to an hour - which is long enough to coordinate with scum, but not really determine what is going on in the thread | ||
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On April 24 2013 06:57 tube wrote: Where's drazak? Inactivity should be pushed. i've been pushing him... but you're only the 2nd one i've seen do so | ||
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