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Stutters I think is town because of a meta read. Until he gives me reason to think he's scum, I will treat him as town because he's never played scum. There's little reason for me to believe that anything he's done is outside of what I expect from town Stutters, which admittedly isn't much to begin with. I would expect scum Stutters to be easy to pick out, because it owuld be his first game and he'd likely be horrible.
WoS would also be first time scum, and he's too active for that. He's too involved. He's claimed miller within a reasonable context. Not what I'd expect from first time scum.
Sharrant is highly involved in the game. and seems genuinely interested in figuring out the game. He's also the only person mafia Clarity ever talked about, which would be weird for his scum mate. I believe Sharrant would be another first-timer, so unless he's a prodigy, he's town.
TRN is a mason, and I have little reason to be suspicious of him. When he masoned me, he seemed to want to figure me out, as he had apparently done with geript. Town.
Geript is town because I understand how he thinks. I was just in a Hydra with him not long ago. His perspective on the game is similar to what I saw there. He's a little tunnelish, and genuinely doesn't understand my play this game. I believe it.
Artanis is also likely town (unless my conspiracy theory comes true) because of how involved he's been in the game since yesterday. He's attempting to figure the game out in a rational way. I have little real reason to suspect him outside of interfering with me wanting to lynch you.
BC is town because either you or him is confirmed town, because of what I've talked about his game, and right now I'm working under that assumption.
BM is town because he's still playing the game. In Boardwalk, his activity fell off a cliff and he stopped trying later in the game when he realized the scum team's chances were shot. In a similar situation this game. he's still trying. Not to mention, day 1 he tried to talk sense to me in my trollish state. Easily town.
Giygas is town through sheer effort. He's tryharding to figure out this game. I don't even have to explain this, it's so obvious.
Kush I might be wrong about, but he seems genuine when he just wants a lynch. His accusation of me felt like an accusation town Kush would believe in. He's also not hardbussing, as far as I can see, so he's not mafia. Real heuristics, applied realistically.
That leaves you and Hopeless, Palmar. Without your claim, there's nothing to point toward you being town, and the claim is ass.
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On May 07 2013 04:38 TheRavensName wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 04:25 yamato77 wrote:On May 07 2013 03:32 TheRavensName wrote:On May 07 2013 03:29 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 07 2013 03:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 07 2013 03:25 TheRavensName wrote:On May 07 2013 03:21 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 07 2013 03:18 TheRavensName wrote:
Something opped into my head while I was filter diving artnanis:
Question, why are BC and Palmar even being talked about as suspects still? if they were both RBed night 1 they should both be town. Unless, were assuming ace got hit night 1 or they double stacked Vivax. Consiering no one was really hard pushing Ace in a way that would suggest he had survived a shot, i find this to be unlikely.. No way Mafia defensive jailed before vigis could shoot. So they must hve blocked one and shot the other, which would mean they would both be town. Those scenarios are quite likely, TRN, as well the fact that mafia may not have had 2 (non-vigi)KP at any point during the game, especially since we don't have town vig. ..... Scum started at 5 which means they could shoot twice night 1. i think a Veteran would have told them not to double stack vivax, and instead shoot him once and shoot someone else, then just shoot him again if they had to. And I don't think a newer player would have noticed the crumb as anything else other then self martyring after a failed lynch they pushed. Where does the OP talk about scum KP formula? Ah found it, ok you're right. Doublestacking is more common than you'd think though. Perhaps when someone is actually a threat and likely to get protection. Vivax just lead a mislynch, which made protection quite unlikely. i don't see why Mafia would throw away their only gauranteed night of double shooting with how much of their team was afk/under suspicion. Just because someone was wrong about the lynch they led on day 1 does not make them a bad shot. Vivax was an unexpected NK, but I don't think anyone was suspicious of him whatsoever. It's important for scum to keep people like Vivax dead. If town is listening to someone, even if that person is wrong at that time, you should kill them. You never let town form a cohesive group. That's what the Vivax/Rayn/OO NKs were all about. No one suspected them, and they were listened to, to a certain extent. My point wasn't they wouldn't kill him. My point was they wouldn't doublestack.
They quite possibly could, yes. They also could have shot Ace. You can't just call Palmar confirmed town when scum often doublestack, and you can't even be sure Palmar got hit if they didn't.
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BC, if you're town, get your head out of your ass.
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I'll consider that post a scum claim.
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On May 07 2013 08:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 08:32 Palmar wrote:
Maybe it's bias, but honestly, yamato is using exactly the same shitty logic I tend to use when I'm scum. dude this means you, me, ace, ve, have all read him as scum. Unless he is the single worst player in the world hes gotta be scum -_-
2/4 of those people aren't town.
Good company you keep.
Whatever, if you guys actually get close to lynching me, I will out the JK and hammer myself. This game has officially gone full retard.
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On May 07 2013 08:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'm a good little sheep
##Unvote: BloodyC0bbler
##Vote: yamato77
Baaah
Anyone who actually wants to win the game can look at this post and Palmar's shitpost and realize they are both scum.
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On May 07 2013 08:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 08:34 yamato77 wrote:On May 07 2013 08:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 07 2013 08:32 Palmar wrote:
Maybe it's bias, but honestly, yamato is using exactly the same shitty logic I tend to use when I'm scum. dude this means you, me, ace, ve, have all read him as scum. Unless he is the single worst player in the world hes gotta be scum -_- 2/4 of those people aren't town. Good company you keep. Whatever, if you guys actually get close to lynching me, I will out the JK and hammer myself. This game has officially gone full retard. given that you have been calling me mafia all game and auto 180ed i find it hard to believe you. Also if you out the jk and he is town like we all expect you would be actively breaking the rule of play to win.
Apparently no one is reading the thread closely enough anyway, but that doesn't surprise me.
Why would I, as scum, suddenly not want to lynch you when multiple people were ready to do so?
Use your brain, please.
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On May 07 2013 08:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 08:41 yamato77 wrote:On May 07 2013 08:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 07 2013 08:34 yamato77 wrote:On May 07 2013 08:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 07 2013 08:32 Palmar wrote:
Maybe it's bias, but honestly, yamato is using exactly the same shitty logic I tend to use when I'm scum. dude this means you, me, ace, ve, have all read him as scum. Unless he is the single worst player in the world hes gotta be scum -_- 2/4 of those people aren't town. Good company you keep. Whatever, if you guys actually get close to lynching me, I will out the JK and hammer myself. This game has officially gone full retard. given that you have been calling me mafia all game and auto 180ed i find it hard to believe you. Also if you out the jk and he is town like we all expect you would be actively breaking the rule of play to win. Apparently no one is reading the thread closely enough anyway, but that doesn't surprise me. Why would I, as scum, suddenly not want to lynch you when multiple people were ready to do so? Use your brain, please. you are my top scum read, youd be lynched the moment i flipped town.
Read the day's posts again. Look at why I changed my read.
Realize the truth that is Palmar is scum.
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On May 07 2013 08:59 kushm4sta wrote:
I find this yamato push absolutely ridiculous.
Are you sure BC and palmar can't be scum together?
It seems unlikely, given the N1 roleblocks.
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Regardless, we're lynching Palmar today.
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On May 07 2013 09:05 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
Regardless, we're lynching Palmar today. I thought we were lynching me. Didn't I just claim scum?
You both did.
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On May 07 2013 09:06 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
Regardless, we're lynching Palmar today. I dont like this. Out of the two Palmar seems more likely to be dumb town. no flame meant by that palmar
No. Palmar isn't the one who has been tunneled on me the entire game. He's called me town before this point. His reaction is because I called him scum, not because he actually is bad enough to think I'm scum.
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On May 07 2013 09:07 kushm4sta wrote:
dudes can we just lynch hopeless? that is the lynch im most comfortable with I think
No, Palmar's going to get killed for calling me scum. It's what he deserves.
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One more vote and I lose this game for town.
You guys wanna lose?
Let's do this.
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Yeah, I'm tired of fighting stupid
I resolve myself of responsibility for the outcome of this game.
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On May 07 2013 08:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'm a good little sheep
##Unvote: BloodyC0bbler
##Vote: yamato77
Baaah
Like really, this inspires a town read on Hopeless?
What the fuck, Sharrant.
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Like I said, whatever.
I won't out the JK, but I will hammer myself.
Maybe you will listen to me when I'm dead.
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On May 07 2013 12:29 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 12:28 yamato77 wrote:
Yeah, I'm tired of fighting stupid
I resolve myself of responsibility for the outcome of this game. aside from defend yourself all game you really havent done much. Factor in game sabotage if you are "town" and its pretty clear you have to go
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
I handed you scum on a silver platter and you voted to lynch me.
Go reread the game.
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On May 07 2013 12:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 12:30 yamato77 wrote:On May 07 2013 12:29 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 07 2013 12:28 yamato77 wrote:
Yeah, I'm tired of fighting stupid
I resolve myself of responsibility for the outcome of this game. aside from defend yourself all game you really havent done much. Factor in game sabotage if you are "town" and its pretty clear you have to go LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL I handed you scum on a silver platter and you voted to lynch me. Go reread the game. which one? i recall ace giving us clarity, ve + CC giving us shiaopi, mods giving us tube, and virtually everyone thinking ace was likely 3p. Who did you give us?
Hopeless and Palmar
Their combined filter is smaller than mine, but I'm being lynched over the both of them.
Fantastic.
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Whatever, BC
You're obviously biased. There's no reasoning with you. I hope you regret your idiotic decision making today when I flip town.
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