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So assuming Shiao is mafia, that makes the day 2 wagons BOTH mafia. People that felt there was little difference between them would be largely absolved, in my opinion. What would then be strange were the two people who argued over the two of them, VE and Ace. As I said before, there is a clear scum motivation in saving Shiao and bussing Clarity, because Clarity was likely to be mod killed anyway and highly inactive. Ace proposes that this lost the scum team 2 KP, and it did, but it actually served to SAVE a scum member, since before Ace's push, Shiao was the one getting lynched. Some time in day 2, people began to realize just how inactive Clarity was, and it became apparent that he was more than likely to be mod killed. So the Clarity bus, assuming Shiao is mafia, is actually making the best out of a shit situation. Ace also argues in his filter that the scum team would have pushed an alternative target, but people fail to realize that this person was me. Thread sentiment has been against me the entire game, and even the way Ace develops his suspicion of me on day 1 is worth looking at. And on day 2, there is no shortage of referring to me being a possible lynch candidate in Ace's filter. What adds on to this for me is that his metric for determining the better lynch between Clarity/Shiao is somewhat suspect. Most of it no longer applies, because in knowing that Clarity was scum, and Shiao was scum, we realize that him not voting his scum buddy in the time he was there is not weird whatsoever. The VCA that "scummy people" from the Oats wagon were on the Shiao wagon is also complete bullshit, and I've been over that before. Another thing is the choice of NK, CC. His check was the one on Shiao, and it was this check that Ace wanted to argue against, that CC was suspicious for his claim and not to be trusted. Later, he goes on to about face once he realizes people are believing CC and plays along with this whole thing, but he's still disruptive in the sense that he wanted cops to check each other, which CC was obviously against from a look at his filter. So with VE complying, and Palmar being a wildcard and under some suspicion, he NK's the cop everyone believes that isn't following his circle jerk plan. Shiao flipping a scum largely invalidates the largest part of why people should believe Ace as town, which were his day 2 actions with the lynch. When you eliminate that, which is a large portion of his actual contribution this game, his filter devolves significantly, and you're left with a lot of arguing with people and insulting others, along with bullying people for their read on him. So yeah, Ace could definitely be scum. | ||
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On May 01 2013 08:11 VisceraEyes wrote: Yamato if you're not going to be helpful I'd prefer if you died in silence. If you think Ace is mafia then I'm not familiar with your TOWN play at all, so whatever I don't know your play at ALL like I thought I did. You don't think his day 2 actions have a clear mafia motivation to them? I pretty much laid it out, from A to Z. It's not difficult to understand. I myself doubt my own conclusion, but it's possible. He is supposed to be good as scum, you know. | ||
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Has Kush suspected any of the mafia we have flipped this game? If yes, he is mafia. If no, we can ignore him. I cba to look at his filter. | ||
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On May 01 2013 08:16 kushm4sta wrote: stfu yamato your reads are even worse than mine lol It's just a fun joke based on your common mafia meta. | ||
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On May 01 2013 08:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Please, make me go back and find all the instances of you calling me scum. PLEASE MAKE ME DO THAT YAMATO. You're still a parrot of town sentiment, largely. I simply have to decide whether I believe town VE to act that way or scum VE. In the past, it's always been scum VE, but you APPEAR more like your town games this game, so I waffle back and forth. It's your own fault for having a shit day 1. The same could be said for me, I suppose. | ||
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On May 01 2013 08:30 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm NOT a parrot of town sentiment WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS? BECAUSE I'M NOT SHITTING UP THE THREAD WITH CONSPIRACY THEORIES ABOUT ACE BEING QUADRUPLEBUSSING SCUM I'M JUST PARROTING TOWN SENTIMENT?! I FUCKING PUSHED SHIAOPI LYNCH YESTERDAY WHEN TOWN SENTIMENT WANTED TO LYNCH SYLENCIA MOTHERFUCKER Yeah, that's a point in your favor. | ||
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But I have made many cases this game, right or wrong, and with the Syl/Shiao situation, I got shit done, right or wrong. But I can see where someone might think I'm mafia, because I have played like shit for the majority of this game. I would like to think I'm being more reasonable lately than I have been most of the game. But hey, you can yell and scream at me because I think you might be mafia. That's cool. I might be wrong, and I acknowledge that, but I never sleep on players like you, VE. You're better at scum than you want people to believe. | ||
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On May 01 2013 09:10 VisceraEyes wrote: BC: Palmar or Yamato - who gets the lynch tomorrow and why? There's no reason to lynch me when I clearly arrived at Shiao=scum at the end of day 2. | ||
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The amount of circlejerk in the VE/Ace/BC dynamic is astounding. | ||
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On May 01 2013 09:58 VisceraEyes wrote: Don't hate - participate! Your best bet is to try and convince town of a Palmar lynch OVER you. Leave Ace for last if you're town and honestly think he's the last scum. No, it's not. The amount of confirmation bias displayed by the three of you regarding me is completely absurd. None of you can read me for shit. Good job. | ||
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On May 01 2013 10:14 VisceraEyes wrote: ...insinuating that all three of us are town being biased by our reads. If we're all town then who is scum yamato? Fuck man, it's not like we're asking you to move the goddamn moon! You might be town, I might be wrong about Ace. I've already said that. BC is in the "who the fuck knows" category. Stop acting like you've done anything but claimed. The fact that I'm being called out for "not trying" this game is pretty fucking stupid. I've done multiplicatively more this game in scumhunting than you have. Note, you're all sleeping on Hopeless, who I've been telling you is likely mafia since day 2 based on the same analysis that caught Shiao. Go away with your shitty accusations that I'm only accusing "the good players" this game, as if that actually meant anything at all whatsoever. | ||
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On May 01 2013 10:17 Ace wrote: maybe following up on your promises would be a good start. You can't even read, because I posted cases on VE and BC DAY FUCKING ONE. | ||
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On May 01 2013 10:22 TheRavensName wrote: Dear god This is annoying to read. It's annoying to play. | ||
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On May 01 2013 10:24 Ace wrote: those were not cases stop your nonsense lol. it was just straight up bias tunneling. You're bias tunneling if you excuse my analysis with that stupid nonsense. Go away and be bad somewhere else, I'm tired of playing with you. | ||
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On May 01 2013 10:27 Ace wrote: do I have to break out more gif memes? Yes, please keep antagonizing me. Get your head out of your ass. | ||
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On May 01 2013 10:32 VisceraEyes wrote: Yamato as frustrated as you must feel if you're town, imagine things from our perspective. Here's this scummy player (our perspective sir, bear with me) who rather than even TRYING to be townie and look for scum, is just in here screaming NO U at anyone who's suspicious of him. I've been trying to talk about ALL KINDS of people this cycle, not just tunneling you into oblivion, and I've come to the conclusion based on what I've read and what's been discussed that you're the best lynch in my opinion. Prove me wrong dude! Show me you're town by finding scum and participating in the discussion! Don't just shit on it, discredit those participating and fuck off...that's a SCUMMY THING TO DO, and you can be mad about it all you want but it is. You may think I haven't done anything in this game but claim, but there's a reason most everyone is certain I'm town at this point and people are frothing at the mouth to lynch you...I'll tell you for free that it's probably not because of my claim. Yeah, it's because you've largely agreed with them all game, and I haven't. Small wonder they think you're town and I'm not. All of people's criticism of me boils down to "I don't like how you play" and that's bullshit. I'm not going to play how you want me to when I'm perfectly successful in games where I play my way. So fuck off. I don't give a single shit if you lynch me. Maybe you'll learn something about the game in the process. | ||
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