EPTThen when this game started I noticed a completely different BM playing, so I'm almost certain he is not scum.
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Then when this game started I noticed a completely different BM playing, so I'm almost certain he is not scum. | ||
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Do you sincerely think this information is not useful? | ||
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On May 03 2013 06:59 WaveofShadow wrote: My point is NOBODY SUGGESTED BM WAS SCUM AT THIS POINT. We clearly have 3-4 people lined up to lynch; where does BM factor in to those? Acting smug isn't going to help you, it only makes you look like a jerk Maybe I'll be back later if somebody flips. You're an idiot. I'm going to die at some point in the game. At that point I hope to leave everything I think/know about the game behind, so people can analyse it. Now people know I have a very strong townread on BM. | ||
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On May 03 2013 15:02 ObviousOne wrote: Clear up this mason thing STAT, either BM has two people confused or ???. Meanwhile voting hopeless because lulz shamelessly sheeping and not so secretly hoping it's true so my BC mind read works out. Also to anyone voting Ace today: wtf?? Project for later. Issuing you a DMCA takedown request. Used up my brainpower yesterday, still recharging. O'Doyle Rules. OO you're confirmed town so please pull your head out of your ass. Explain in detail why you think leaving Ace for later is a good idea, knowing that you're essentially forcing our JK to roleblock him instead of attempting to save townies? | ||
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On May 03 2013 21:59 ObviousOne wrote: Palmar, those reads you were planning to give if we were going to lynch you? Maybe have them ready before night ends since you probably don't get protected based on your current, ahem, "enthusiasm" in this game? Thx. well yeah. I will probably be writing short thoughts here and there like I've been doing (see bill murray and hopeless) | ||
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On May 03 2013 23:25 WaveofShadow wrote: I don't think Artanis is mafia, though what happened to the big push on BC? As for whether to lynch Ace or no, each side makes halfway decent points. I don't necessarily agree with 'freeing up our JK' since out of like 10-11 townies you have to choose the right one? We're going to lose someone tonight either way so I'm not sure what the strength of that point is. I also disagree with Sharant's 'second vigi' theory which I've already explained but I'm still not voting Ace. This day is going absolutely nowhere and the longer it takes the more I'm likely to do something fucking stupid and change my vote to someting I don't truly want just for a flip. Ugh. Also Palmar, regarding the last page or so. I'm not an idiot; you're being deliberately lazy and unhelpful by not assisting us with our current dilemmas. I'm not saying your read isn't useful for when you flip but there is a time and place, and rather than help us decide our lynch for the day, you post a read on BM that no one needs right now. Why not post a read like that at night if you're so afraid you're going to die? Don't you dare try to bully me or others into agreeing with you. I already said what I want to do now. Lynch BC (because he's scummy) or Ace (because RBs and KPs almost confirm him 3p). And I don't really care when you think it's fit for me to do x or y, I'm not trying to bully anyone into anything, you're the one trying that. | ||
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You're absolutely certain that I am scum. I am absolutely certain you are scum. Town has plenty of mislynches. We randomly choose one of us to die today, then the other flips the next day. | ||
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I kinda meant to ignore you, but I can respond to it if you want me to | ||
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. As long as you're absolutely 100% cool with an automatic lynch on you when I flip town. I don't even care if I get lynched tomorrow. Hell let's just lynch me and get it over with! | ||
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On May 04 2013 05:29 BloodyC0bbler wrote: If you flip town we have both had an atrocious game ok. let's do it. It'll be glorious. | ||
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I actually didn't expect you to be so willing to trade your life for mine, as 1 for 1 scum/town is terrible at this point in the game, and you kinda look like you've accepted that if I flip town you'll die. So, now I think there's a tiny chance you may actually somehow be town. And since it's not like we can murder each other let's play the game a tiny bit differently. You and I assume each other are confirmed town, and we scumhunt in the rest of town. I have some free time tonight, you in? | ||
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On May 04 2013 05:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I have some time I can likely spare tonight. Might as well ok I'll be back an about 30m-1h First topic: My very strong townread on Bill Murray based on his day 1 posting. I was not kidding when I said "towniest fucker in the thread" His play is enormously different from what I've come to expect of scum murray. Would you agree that BM shouldn't be a lynch candidate? respond, and throw me one of your reads. Let's ping pong the remaining players like that. | ||
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On May 04 2013 06:00 BloodyC0bbler wrote: As things stand now I find it very unlikely for him to be mafia. He hasn't done much but what he does done reeks of someone who is strongly town aligned. I want to hear your opinion on stutters. Guy has replaced in for drH and since joining the game has done absolutely nothing that I would consider helpful in any sense. What say you? Even then he very quickly took a stance on shiaopi and clarity, in both cases calling them scum. I'm not sure, it could've been been bus, but it's a pretty hard bus if it is. He even rejected both the VE and Palmar attempts on day 2 in favor of trying to lynch shiaopi On April 27 2013 04:19 Stutters695 wrote: One of them is done, I have a few more next week but this was the hardest one. Of the people who seem lynchable today: VE: I really don't see how VE is doing anything lynchable that ShiaoPi isn't doing worse. I disagree with his reads, but I'm not seeing the "lazy" VE that Palmar is mentioning. At least not to the extent that he should be lynched over some of these other people. ShiaoPi: Pretty much the only thing I've said in my few posts. Easily my choice for a lynch currently. When I was catching up before joining I noticed similar things to VE and Vivax on that. He hammered a town player (would be understandable if he had expressed any interest before that) and has actively been avoiding major topics. Clarity-nl: TBH he doesn't seem as bad as others are making him sound but I need to go over his stuff in context of the thread. Again I see questionable stuff but nothing that comes close to what i see as shady about Shiao. This is not even the first time he mentions shiaopi. At least he was aware of cases being made against shiaopi, as demonstrated by this port here: On April 26 2013 07:34 Stutters695 wrote: VE:I thought between the Vivax case and your points that the case on Shiao was pretty good. What specifically made you switch to Palmar over Shiao? I can understand why Palmar's posting is like he is, but Shiao has hammered oats when he hadn't interacted or even mentioned him all game with a very weak justification (Oats wasn't doing shit so why not hammer him for info [which he never brought up again]). I'm just not following what made you so sold on Palmar over him. While I'm not going to go as far as give a townread on him, I'd say he's unlikely to be scum. | ||
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here's the post I mentioned him being town: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18487429 here's the backtrack (within a page): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18482210 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18482256 What do you think about him? | ||
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He also made a few posts that just don't add perfectly up if he's scum. The first one being the misconception about the scum night kill, because it's hard to feign the idea so casually: On April 25 2013 05:53 kushm4sta wrote: inb4 scumpalmar was roleblocked and thats why theres only 1 nk Also, this read of his on VE: On April 25 2013 14:52 kushm4sta wrote: hi ace. you aren't town this game so i'm not listening to your suggestions and nor should anyone else. VE is town. He is town from his first post in the game. only town would complain about having to read the op (because the role names weren't colored) I am gonna vote for shiaopi. I don't want to go for clarity because now Ace is pushing it. A very similar thing happened yesterday. Yamato was the popular lynch, then Ace pushed Oats, claiming the case on Oats was really good (even though in retrospect it sucked). Means he's thinking about the game from a townie perspective. No one else (I can remember) pointed out this idea that VE was town based on this. The last point has an obvious bias, knowing I am town: Kush basically understands that this post cannot be made by a scum palmar as it's too legit and too in line with what I had been saying all day. Maybe he's a scummer giving me a warm fuzzy feeling about the posts, but it's just too many little things that kush has done throughout the game for me to call him scum. | ||
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On April 22 2013 10:21 kushm4sta wrote: Giygas as your self appointed lawyer I must remind you that you do not have to answer any of these questions, as you have not yet been charged with a crime. Kush is just too involved, genuine and carefree for me to think he's scum. | ||
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