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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2013 02:52 GMT
#2982
VE your claims dont match your actions. You suspected ShiaPi of being Scum before the clarity flip. You never pushed Sylencia. You have a result on OO. But instead of checking it against the guy you suspect you go after someone else.

and that someone else happens to be the same person a claimed DT prior to you posting investigates.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2013 02:54 GMT
#2985
no OO, Mr.CC is correct here.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2013 02:56 GMT
#2987
On April 29 2013 11:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
You can't tell me my actions don't match my claims because I haven't given any reasoning for my picks ACE. How can you say that they don't match when I haven't given them ACE?


because your filter says otherwise. why would you go after people you never suspected?

and if you wanted to give reasonings why didnt you give them the moment you claimed? because you fucked up your fakeclaim.

But I'm interested - tell me what made you pick OO and Syl for investigations?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2013 02:58 GMT
#2989
ok so prove me wrong. How did you come to suspect those two in the thread?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2013 03:05 GMT
#2998
On April 29 2013 12:01 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 12:00 ObviousOne wrote:
I think if it helps with your investigations you should kill me today to check your results, but as far as I know I am plain old vanilla as a motherfucker and I want to lynch objectively-scummy and extremely infuriating to read Sylencia.


Sylencia received a warning for inactivity, yes?

This problem may solve itself, and we can look at a different lynch today. Or at least up until he flips, if he does not come back.


I def believe sylencia can flip scum. but there is a major plot for future cred here and at least one of these cops, perhaps 2 are lying. and VE just dropped his claim with no reasonings period. Its almost as bad the other 2 but I'm willing to buy CC is just not used to this war zone.

There is a major, major plot here and there is one more thing we can do and the fact that none of those 3 have said it paints a big, big red ball on their heads. Someone is definitely lying for sure.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2013 03:08 GMT
#3004
On April 29 2013 12:06 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 12:05 Ace wrote:
On April 29 2013 12:01 Sharrant wrote:
On April 29 2013 12:00 ObviousOne wrote:
I think if it helps with your investigations you should kill me today to check your results, but as far as I know I am plain old vanilla as a motherfucker and I want to lynch objectively-scummy and extremely infuriating to read Sylencia.


Sylencia received a warning for inactivity, yes?

This problem may solve itself, and we can look at a different lynch today. Or at least up until he flips, if he does not come back.


I def believe sylencia can flip scum. but there is a major plot for future cred here and at least one of these cops, perhaps 2 are lying. and VE just dropped his claim with no reasonings period. Its almost as bad the other 2 but I'm willing to buy CC is just not used to this war zone.

There is a major, major plot here and there is one more thing we can do and the fact that none of those 3 have said it paints a big, big red ball on their heads. Someone is definitely lying for sure.

YEAH ACE, LET'S LYNCH THE COP CLAIM

YEAH

SO SMART


this is why you are on the bottom rungs of the skill ladder. no thinking. we dont even have to lynch them yet dum dum.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2013 03:18 GMT
#3012
On April 29 2013 12:08 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 12:01 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Focus people focus. We know (or at least I do, if you don't believe me go away kk) that one of Sylencia or ShaioPi is scum. We lynch one of them today. I'm hedging my bets on Sylencia. Any more of any other claims and focus on any other people is nonsense. We lynch into Syl and Shaio and come out with our hands covered in red blood.

That's our focus for today. All else can wait.


However unlikely it is, it's still possible for all 3 people checked to be town, is it not?

If Shiao is miller, and CC is insane we could have 3 townies.

Unlikely, I know, but still possible.

And if OO and Syl are both millers and Shiao town it's also possible.

Again, very unlikely scenario, but it worries me that we could lynch 3 people based on these claims and still have the possibility of hitting 0 scum.


start here:

Palmar: Cop
VE: Parity Cop
Mr.CC Cop

Parity Cop has same/same on OO +syl.
Mr.CC has green Shiao + red on Syl.

there's a clash here but the potential miller issue screws us over. which is the problem for lynching anyone but a cop and at least one of them is surely lying. So there are two ways to do this.

#1.) work through night analysis

lynch Syl today, and whatever he flips lets us know Mr.CC's and VE's supposed sanities. If syl is Scum have Mr.CC investigate VE and have VE investigate Palmar, have Palmar investigate Mr.CC

We dont need to jail any of them, because anyone of them who dies confirms something about the other except for Palmar's case. Scum roleblocking any of them wouldn't be enough to stop the other 2 from getting a legit check. If either of the 3 are lying it is revealed this way as the roleblock screws the scum team also. If there is a remaining DT they just investigate one of these 3 also.

This situation resolves itself and kills any bus attempts and fake claim credit.

2.) The other way is to work backwards

Assume syl is scum before the flip:

Mr.CC - > sane
OO = town.
VE = parity cop (sane)
Which means with Palmar on a guilty result on BC we'd have 3 sane cops in the same game or Palmar is paranoid. With Palmar being so sure of his check on BC then jumping on the Mr.CC claim at face value this looks very bad for him. He'd have to be a paranoid cop in this instance as 3 sane cops would break the game without some insane night killing power.

Also notice these 2 scenarios dont take into account foreknowledge of the events of Day 1 and 2 to clear things up. With VE being a major suspect and Palmar being thrown around as 3rd party multiple times and possible scum those fake claims are actually the best way into endgame: bus a teammate for cred from Cop claims and kill the real counter claiming cop.

All 3 of them can not be Cops.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2013 03:20 GMT
#3015
and since the framer died and there can't be detective millers the lie is exposed.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2013 03:23 GMT
#3020
that should read OO = scum btw. and I dont have a scumread on OO.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2013 03:25 GMT
#3023
Wos we need to figure this scenario out. Voting for WoS is implusive. Before we do anything lets all sit down, take a deep breath, and think our way through this.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2013 03:26 GMT
#3026
I mean voting for Shiao is impulsive. Also if you're a miller too, I think that lessens the chance of Syl or OO being millers.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2013 03:28 GMT
#3028
I'm gonna go back through the thread again after I watch Game Of Thrones. yamato do some actual work you lazy piece of trash.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2013 03:47 GMT
#3047
Imagine if Bill Murray shows up and claims cop? v_v
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2013 05:16 GMT
#3074
I think Syl is the right lynch, not Shiao.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2013 05:26 GMT
#3078
from the Day 2 scenario I think Shiao is likely to flip town. If he does that means Syl is Scum, which means OO is Scum (or miller) who I also have a toen read on right now. It's a better idea imo to lynch Syl here as if he flips it Scum saves us a townie for sure in Shiao.

Also this means Mr.CC if legit, is Sane detective. If he is sane, I doubt Palmar is also. Which means Palmar is Insane or Paranoid. That leaves a good possibility -> BC town.

Flipping Syl this way allows the DT circle check at night to go through with what we know should happen. If any of them show up with wrong results (or gets killed) we know who is lying.

Can you see a better alternative to figuring this out if we flip Shiao?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2013 05:29 GMT
#3080
Bill Murray my keyboard was broken yesterday so thats what I was doing to communicate. Keep reading it all gets cleared up.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2013 05:45 GMT
#3094
I'll wait for other people to chime in. We did say its possible for Shiao and Clarity to be scum so lets see. I prefer Syl.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2013 05:46 GMT
#3098
think thats my cue to go to bed.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2013 19:44 GMT
#3260
On April 30 2013 03:45 Stutters695 wrote:
ebwop: sorry for the language. I'm looking at Ace now since WoS brought him up. He has kinda slipped by lately.


what? I've been around the entire game - where could I have slipped by?

VE -> Palmar
Palmar->CC
CC->VE

Town JK dont target any of them, let town docs take care of that. roleblocking any of them will screw us. let scum worry about who to rb.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2013 20:01 GMT
#3264
Triple Cop Claim Caper - you had to be there. you missed it man.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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