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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 25 2013 18:15 GMT
#46
fuck everything it's a pyp game and I'm playing

/in
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 29 2013 18:03 GMT
#60
wow guys way to bail
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 04 2013 16:56 GMT
#346
Hai

rolepicking is stupid and doesn't work, thanks for spamming the thread.

So let's move on to why people are calling Caller scum when it's pretty clear he's not.

Anyone wanna take credit for that... Bueller? Bueller?
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 04 2013 21:00 GMT
#483
On April 05 2013 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
3 scum reads:

Caller, RO, Oats.

Why

On April 05 2013 05:46 strongandbig wrote:
this whole discussion is stupid until we get the drafting list btw


yes

Gonzaw would you mind telling me what you think of oats, artanis, sharrant, and decondou? Would like to hear someone else's thoughts.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 04 2013 22:27 GMT
#485
what do you want?
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 05 2013 00:29 GMT
#505
yamato don't flatter yourself to think I was somehow indirectly calling you out lol
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 05 2013 02:51 GMT
#584
On April 05 2013 10:10 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 06:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On April 05 2013 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
3 scum reads:

Caller, RO, Oats.

Why

On April 05 2013 05:46 strongandbig wrote:
this whole discussion is stupid until we get the drafting list btw


yes

Gonzaw would you mind telling me what you think of oats, artanis, sharrant, and decondou? Would like to hear someone else's thoughts.


Yo how about YOU tell me what you think of them?
You can't force the wise man to do your bidding, he forces you to do his, and then enlightens you or punishes you accordingly

I have to agree with yamato on Oats.
Makes little sense for scum Oats to "intentionally disrupt" town like this in the drafting phase for no reason (if he's scum), rather than doing so when it matters to them: The Day phase.
No reason to call him scum right now, wait until the game actually "matters" to state so.


So you 5 guys are you sending the 1-5 draft choices? If so it may be better to claim so you don't clash between each other, and so you can convince other people not to take those as well (I already changed my number).
I guess it's too late though, meh.


I initially had a pretty bad feeling about oats, however he's just been too loud for me to think he's scum at this point. I'm rather suspicious of artanis, I actually wanted an opinion on sharrant because I have him as a complete null, and decondou was a red herring which I threw out on a whim. In hindsight you'd be too smart to go for it as scum anyway

currently I have rayn as probable town since I've learned that the most annoying people tend to be town. That being said, I also really don't think RO is scummy.

Also for the record, I'm not trying to force a wise man to do my bidding, just wanna check in with someone who completely played me before :D
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 05 2013 03:16 GMT
#602
On April 05 2013 11:53 yamato77 wrote:
Justify your suspicion on Artanis.


He's hiding in plain sight.
On April 05 2013 11:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 11:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On April 05 2013 10:10 gonzaw wrote:
On April 05 2013 06:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On April 05 2013 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
3 scum reads:

Caller, RO, Oats.

Why

On April 05 2013 05:46 strongandbig wrote:
this whole discussion is stupid until we get the drafting list btw


yes

Gonzaw would you mind telling me what you think of oats, artanis, sharrant, and decondou? Would like to hear someone else's thoughts.


Yo how about YOU tell me what you think of them?
You can't force the wise man to do your bidding, he forces you to do his, and then enlightens you or punishes you accordingly

I have to agree with yamato on Oats.
Makes little sense for scum Oats to "intentionally disrupt" town like this in the drafting phase for no reason (if he's scum), rather than doing so when it matters to them: The Day phase.
No reason to call him scum right now, wait until the game actually "matters" to state so.


So you 5 guys are you sending the 1-5 draft choices? If so it may be better to claim so you don't clash between each other, and so you can convince other people not to take those as well (I already changed my number).
I guess it's too late though, meh.


I initially had a pretty bad feeling about oats, however he's just been too loud for me to think he's scum at this point. I'm rather suspicious of artanis, I actually wanted an opinion on sharrant because I have him as a complete null, and decondou was a red herring which I threw out on a whim. In hindsight you'd be too smart to go for it as scum anyway

currently I have rayn as probable town since I've learned that the most annoying people tend to be town. That being said, I also really don't think RO is scummy.

Also for the record, I'm not trying to force a wise man to do my bidding, just wanna check in with someone who completely played me before :D

Oats is bad town or scum.
Artanis is .. hmm.. idk..
sharrant almost definitely town.
deconduo, leaning on scum at him.
RO = scum. kill him <3


[image loading]
See that rayn^ That's a train. Think of that train as your current case on RO

[image loading]
See that rayn^ That's a train crash. That's what happens when you tunnel without a real case.

Out of curiosity, are there any posts of decondou's that stick out to you that made you think he was scummy?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 05 2013 04:11 GMT
#625
Since when has "heuristic" become such a buzzword around here? Whenever you use that word y'all just sound like you're trying cover up the fact that you don't actually have a point.

Regardless I'm going to bed.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 05 2013 12:45 GMT
#719
I've seen like two people do this already, if you're picking a kp role like america please god do not announce it in the thread as you're just begging for scum to pick up a misdirection or controlling role to use on you.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 05 2013 12:56 GMT
#720
Actually as an addendum to that just don't tell the thread what you're picking. No reason to give scum unnecessary info for free.

People rolefishing already is pretty fishy (harhar) in my eyes.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 05 2013 14:54 GMT
#758
Oats I can't actually believe your argument is just "policy hurr durr." NOBODY listens to "policy" bullshit, the only people policy lynches ever kill are idiotic townies.

Have you ever seen LAL lynch a scum? Have you ever seen the current plan you're spouting work? Hint hint, the vast majority of the time they just kills idiots trying to be scum. Now before you say "but meapak scum can just make that argument to get away" I'll say this, scum are typically too scared to try it outside of a few fantastic players, none of whom are in this game.

I'm on my phone otherwise I'd find an appropriate pict
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 05 2013 15:00 GMT
#760
Oats idk how to explain to you why you're an idiot :/
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 05 2013 15:18 GMT
#769
Its too bad you're so far down the list oats, I'd love to see how fast you'd break your own rule if you had kp.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 05 2013 15:24 GMT
#772
For the record I'm not a fan of anybody with kp just blowing shit up as they please, however what I'm saying is that hitting a townie as a vig by itself is not enough to just kill someone.

People are stupid and townies make mistakes. Obviously scum can say they made a mistake but if they're scum then that vig shot won't be the only thing they've done wrong.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 05 2013 16:09 GMT
#776
On April 06 2013 00:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 00:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
For the record I'm not a fan of anybody with kp just blowing shit up as they please, however what I'm saying is that hitting a townie as a vig by itself is not enough to just kill someone.

People are stupid and townies make mistakes. Obviously scum can say they made a mistake but if they're scum then that vig shot won't be the only thing they've done wrong.


It doesnt work that way MZ.
Vig shots are inherently not alignment indicative, whether a dude shot or not does not make him townier or scummier.

Its WHO he shoots, AND his actions before the shot.



That's literally what I've been saying. You can't use the shot to determine everything. Try and read my posts please.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 07 2013 00:05 GMT
#1160
some brief thoughts.

The vibe I get from RO is that he's someone who's smurfing and thinks he's pretty good so he's trying to emulate the current vet meta where you insult the thread and don't give a lot of reads. Keep that in mind everyone who is accusing him, everyone wants to be protactinium, and anonymously win the game and then claim who they are later. He could still be scum but the evidence atm doesn't convince me.

VE: holy crap how many times have I seen VE mislynched for doing almost exactly the same thing. His more recent posts about not caring about the game are like textbook VE. Yes I will concede, there is a very good case on him, but you all need to understand my own personal history with VE: I've been that guy who railroaded a d1 lynch against town VE before and I can tell you, it's really easy. idk what it is about VE but he's like the biggest lynch bait currently playing.

Now here are some people who are worth looking into, Shevlocke and Vivax. More on them after the break.

oh also FOS:raynpelikoneet <-- this dude is slippery, but idk if I can make a case yet.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 07 2013 00:06 GMT
#1161
el oh el formatting on dat fos.

regardless, be back in a bit
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 07 2013 01:57 GMT
#1197
Alright so like I said earlier, I have a pretty strong scum read on Shevlocke and here’s why.
On April 04 2013 12:44 Shelvocke wrote:
Pick what you want when you want. By making a list and saying "no townie pick these", all you do is allow mafia to pick up extremely strong roles at the end of the draft. Trying to deny roles by directly assigning specific numbered spots is even worse due to the sheer number of roles that can steal, copy, or redirect. This isn't even considering the fact that there are too many strong mafia roles to deny all of them.


On April 04 2013 13:19 Shelvocke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 13:05 yamato77 wrote:
I kind of like the idea of town "assigning" certain roles to people. I think most of town should be able to agree on 1-2 decent townreads to deny mafia roles with. It's also very hard for mafia to BE a top townread of an entire thread, so there's that.

It does depend somewhat on picking order, and people's compliance with this plan, however. We don't know ho effective it could be, our townreads might be at the bottom of the list where it is too late to make a REAL difference, and the top of the list is all lurkers/null reads.


Lettuce ask a very simple question here. How does one assign a role to a player who could conceivably pick at any spot?


On April 04 2013 13:23 Shelvocke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 13:05 Sharrant wrote:
There are 3 roles that can copy or misdirect powers, one is thief and it's already in my list of powers we need to deny. Another is role swapper, and that's not nearly as powerful, and it is entirely possible that it would just act as an extended role block if we can determine who the role swapper is right away. Framer is concerning because it can direct actions, but at worst it means that they get one of the denied roles for as long as the framer can stay alive and untouched by town actions.

The "sheer number" of roles that can steal copy or redirect is exactly 3. 1 of which I say we should deny, another very weak, only one is a credible threat to town in my plan supposing they pick it.



There are several other roles that can cause problems for people who roleclaim, and you would do very well to think about that. You also have not noticed one of the most dangerous combinations in this game that prevents plans like the one you have.


On April 04 2013 13:42 Shelvocke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 13:33 Sharrant wrote:
On April 04 2013 13:23 Shelvocke wrote:
On April 04 2013 13:05 Sharrant wrote:
There are 3 roles that can copy or misdirect powers, one is thief and it's already in my list of powers we need to deny. Another is role swapper, and that's not nearly as powerful, and it is entirely possible that it would just act as an extended role block if we can determine who the role swapper is right away. Framer is concerning because it can direct actions, but at worst it means that they get one of the denied roles for as long as the framer can stay alive and untouched by town actions.

The "sheer number" of roles that can steal copy or redirect is exactly 3. 1 of which I say we should deny, another very weak, only one is a credible threat to town in my plan supposing they pick it.



There are several other roles that can cause problems for people who roleclaim, and you would do very well to think about that. You also have not noticed one of the most dangerous combinations in this game that prevents plans like the one you have.


I'm interested to hear this combination. I can see many ways that scum would be able to kill a player knowing their role.

Yes, having an extractor AND BloodyCobbler would net them 1 kill per cycle extra. But that's for 2 roles, as opposed to having an assassin and saying "green" every single time and getting 1 kill per cycle extra for only a single role.

Now, there are combinations I haven't mentioned because I didn't want to give anyone ideas, if you're thinking of anything involving the politician, there's a good chance I've thought of that as well, there are ways to stop that. But if you think there's something that is specifically of horrendous consequence for this plan, please do elaborate. If this plan is bad I would like you to change my mind, otherwise I would like to change yours.

I'm going to bed now, if I get bored I might wander back and read more, but that's doubtful.

Good night, everyone. I hope you're all as excited for the draft as I am.


As far as I know, that's not how assassin works. It requires the person to either say "Red" or their role name.

I'd rather not share what the combination is, as it's a bit unusual and I doubt if anyone on mafia will be easily able to figure it out. But the fact that I was able to think of it definitely means that someone else might also recognize it.


On April 05 2013 04:09 Shelvocke wrote:
The reason why this plan is awful goes beyond how well you can identify 5 town reads 16 hours in when setup is the only thing to talk about (which is simply pitifully if you arent aware). There is simply no way to force people to pick specific numbers. I wont be following it.


What do these posts have in common? They are all worthless. Now this wouldn’t be such a problem except that he also has these posts:

On April 05 2013 11:17 Shelvocke wrote:
[8][2]

How the hell am I below mocsta.

On April 07 2013 06:44 Shelvocke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 06:40 Vivax wrote:
On April 07 2013 06:36 geript wrote:
On April 07 2013 06:35 Ghor wrote:
Can everyone put the numbers he sent to the hosts into his signature so I can rebuild the list without digging for needles in the haystack? There is no need for you to keep them secret if you are town.

Stop this. The time for doing this is over. There is no reason to suspect people solely based off of the numbers they supposedly picked. Don't waste anyone's time with bull like that.


No, two scum won't pick the same numbers ever. It's valuable information. Unless you can give rational explanation you have no argument and only want to keep us in the dark.


In Pick Your Power Insane, three mafia all picked the same first number. It's not a valid argument.


So there have been two options to speculate about worthless things so far (picking plans and who got what numbers), and shevlocke has jumped on them both. Does he have any reads? Thus far his one “scum read” is VE . His argument against VE is “he’s faking contributions by talking about irrelevant things” this is exactly what shevlocke himself has been doing which is ironic. So let’s quickly review, shevlocke has posted about both of the worthless topics the thread has discussed so far. On top of that, he accuses his only scum read of doing exactly what he himself is doing. Shevlocke is doing his best to blend in by providing “opinions” on the things that don’t matter and his one read is completely worthless.
We’re not too far into day 1 but I want shevlocke’s name out there as a lynch candidate.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 07 2013 06:24 GMT
#1252
On April 07 2013 15:13 yamato77 wrote:
Going to bed.

When I wake up tomorrow, I'm taking a look at this list of people:

VE
PALMAR
SINANI
MEAPAK
AUSTIN

One of them will get lynched.

You should probably "take a look" at the whole game while you're at it since only sinani even closely resembles a decent lynch.
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