EPTOn April 08 2013 11:54 geript wrote:
Okay, I'm tired of VE being absent. I picked NRA member and was denied. That means that one of Sno, Rayn, Sinani, OO or VE chose it before I got it. I can't be certain that VE chose it but his response here:
Lead me to believe that he chose it. Now, there is nothing alignment indicative of VE choosing NRA member, but having proceeded to do nothing to come across as townie in the least made me extra suspicious. NRA member is a role that's exceptionally dangerous in scum hands because it prevents Investigations and Vigilante shots AND kills the offending player. As town, it could be exceptionally good as it can prevent opposing targetted KP (except as I read it the 1 per night scum KP). Considering VE's actions to not try in the slightest, I have to warn you guys about aiming towards him. More importantly, it leads to actively trying to draw investigations and town KP his direction in order to gain faux KP.
When you add VE's general disinterest with this motivation the only conclusion I can come to is him being scum.
##vote VE
Okay, I'm tired of VE being absent. I picked NRA member and was denied. That means that one of Sno, Rayn, Sinani, OO or VE chose it before I got it. I can't be certain that VE chose it but his response here:
Lead me to believe that he chose it. Now, there is nothing alignment indicative of VE choosing NRA member, but having proceeded to do nothing to come across as townie in the least made me extra suspicious. NRA member is a role that's exceptionally dangerous in scum hands because it prevents Investigations and Vigilante shots AND kills the offending player. As town, it could be exceptionally good as it can prevent opposing targetted KP (except as I read it the 1 per night scum KP). Considering VE's actions to not try in the slightest, I have to warn you guys about aiming towards him. More importantly, it leads to actively trying to draw investigations and town KP his direction in order to gain faux KP.
When you add VE's general disinterest with this motivation the only conclusion I can come to is him being scum.
##vote VE
On April 08 2013 22:40 Palmar wrote:
Alright people, I'm going to contribute so you don't think I'm scum.
Sn0_man
obviousone
Raynpelikoneet
Sinani206
Visceraeyes
One of these people is the NRA, assuming geript's claim is true. Let's look at who wants to pick NRA.
a) Mafia who wants to avoid townies going after him
b) Townies who thinks mafia is going to go after him.
I'll be perfectly honest here, I thought about picking NRA. The reason being I'm shot night 1 very often when I'm town. It's as simple as that, it's the best self-protective role in the game. Now the reason (aside from my position in the draft) I actually did not decide to go for the role was that I wasn't going to be posting the amount or content required to clearly paint myself town. It would actually be an anti-town role if I took it, because of the possibility that someone unsure of my alignment would decide to check me or something.
So, we can safely assume that the person who has the NRA role either thinks he's doing a splendid job of looking so townie that mafia wants to shoot him and town does not want to do anything to him, or he's scum.
My problem is that none of these top 5 players look like they're putting in the effort to be a town-sided NRA, so I am almost certain that whoever picked the NRA role must be scum.
Assassin is another role I really wanted, but meh. Here's the thing, whoever holds the assassin role is almost certainly scum. The reason for this is that if I had the role I would DEFINITELY shoot on day 1. Worst case scenario is that I shoot a townie who doesn't die and gets mod-confirmed town, it also looks great for me since mafia assassin would almost certainly never pull that powerplay.
so yeah, shooting day 1 worst case = 1 confirmed townie and a very likely townie in the assassin. Lose power
best case scenario = kill scum
So why not? Because our assassin (assuming someone took the role) is scum.
Alright people, I'm going to contribute so you don't think I'm scum.
Sn0_man
obviousone
Raynpelikoneet
Sinani206
Visceraeyes
One of these people is the NRA, assuming geript's claim is true. Let's look at who wants to pick NRA.
a) Mafia who wants to avoid townies going after him
b) Townies who thinks mafia is going to go after him.
I'll be perfectly honest here, I thought about picking NRA. The reason being I'm shot night 1 very often when I'm town. It's as simple as that, it's the best self-protective role in the game. Now the reason (aside from my position in the draft) I actually did not decide to go for the role was that I wasn't going to be posting the amount or content required to clearly paint myself town. It would actually be an anti-town role if I took it, because of the possibility that someone unsure of my alignment would decide to check me or something.
So, we can safely assume that the person who has the NRA role either thinks he's doing a splendid job of looking so townie that mafia wants to shoot him and town does not want to do anything to him, or he's scum.
My problem is that none of these top 5 players look like they're putting in the effort to be a town-sided NRA, so I am almost certain that whoever picked the NRA role must be scum.
Assassin is another role I really wanted, but meh. Here's the thing, whoever holds the assassin role is almost certainly scum. The reason for this is that if I had the role I would DEFINITELY shoot on day 1. Worst case scenario is that I shoot a townie who doesn't die and gets mod-confirmed town, it also looks great for me since mafia assassin would almost certainly never pull that powerplay.
so yeah, shooting day 1 worst case = 1 confirmed townie and a very likely townie in the assassin. Lose power
best case scenario = kill scum
So why not? Because our assassin (assuming someone took the role) is scum.
On April 09 2013 10:11 Palmar wrote:
it was so simple. I proved nra and assman were both scum. so we kill nra and assman, and whaddayaknow? I was correct.
man I should get a medal for this game. mvp.
it was so simple. I proved nra and assman were both scum. so we kill nra and assman, and whaddayaknow? I was correct.
man I should get a medal for this game. mvp.
Not so much. I proved why NRA was scum AND I told you who it was AND why it was that person. You can get in line behind me
