EPTYou haven't mentioned austin a single time this game, and he was helping you push the Shelvocke case. Why did you shoot him?
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Keirathi
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You haven't mentioned austin a single time this game, and he was helping you push the Shelvocke case. Why did you shoot him? | ||
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On April 10 2013 11:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: The launch is null, I fucked up the formatting, everyone can chill the fuck out. I tried to kill him for the same reason I was gonna try and kill decon if he had lived, he tried to move attention away from artanis. That's not the point AT ALL. You have 36 hours to send in your nuke. Why not talk in the thread a bit first? Why not talk with austin? He's a fairly open guy, and he generally posts a lot. Everything about that shot reeks of "this is an easy shot for me to make and take no flak for when he flips town". Fuck me. | ||
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On April 10 2013 11:49 sinani206 wrote: Not really worth the anti-nuke, tbh. What? Why not? Austin is one of the more active and engaged players in this game. | ||
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On April 10 2013 11:54 Sn0_Man wrote: A) you aren't confirmed town. B) Keirathi just finished COP CHECKING HIM as town. The godfather is dead. There's still the possibility of framer (RO claimed Framer and that he wasn't going to use it...no way to know if he's lying). And Artanis flipped GF Assassin. Does that mean he got to pick 2 roles, or by picking assassin he got a GF bonus? Who knows. My check doesn't make austin confirmed town, but damn near it. | ||
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On April 10 2013 12:04 strongandbig wrote: austin could be, like, scum NKVD agent? From the OP, it doesn't look like NKVD can fake his alignment, only his role. I did an alignment check, not a role check. On April 10 2013 12:26 geript wrote: I'm also betting that Emperor is scum AND that town vote rigger was used D1. That makes the most sense to me right now. If vote rigger was used, we would have had 3 lynches. 2 by vote, then the emperor still gets his own lynch. On April 10 2013 12:25 Bill Murray wrote: I killed Caller btw WHAT THE FLYING FUCK. What is even going on. Goddamnit. | ||
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On April 10 2013 12:32 Bill Murray wrote: Why is everyone mad I killed Caller? He was quite likely scum. No. He wasn't. If he was scum I will literally eat my fucking hat. Why did he use Showtime! (a one time use power) to kill his FUCKING TEAMMATE. It doesn't make sense. You're a fucking idiot, goddamnit. | ||
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But think about this setup. Scum has to pick their roles in a way to use them together as a team. Why would they use Showtime! in that situation? Hint: they wouldn't. Not on the Assassin, one of the strongest roles in the game. And, on top of that. And you didn't even read the thread before you killed him? Seriously? ........................................................ I'm going to go watch TV or something for an hour before I get modkilled for raging. | ||
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Stop talking about it. I'll use it hwen its appropriate and tell you what I get. | ||
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On April 10 2013 14:40 ObviousOne wrote: Do you think MZ launching a nuke makes him scum, especially after much earlier in the game where I was discussing with Keirathi (among others, I remember Kei bringing it up) where I even proposed we insta-lynch anyone who claims America by action? That almost sounds like where we're headed and my idea was shot down immediately before... like I even think he believed that his launch would fail due to his typo but apparently that's not the case. It's his reaction to the shot that makes me weary. He said "Thank god, someone put me out of my misery" or whatever. It *KINDA* makes sense for town; he realized he fucked up, and now is paying for it with his life. Except he didn't try to say sorry again, or apologize to town, or anything of the sort. Which brings us to the scum side. That reaction makes a fair amount of sense for scum; he thought he had the perfect shot on the perfect target that everyone thought was scum, only to have his plan foiled at the last second and him suddenly under a ton of pressure. Being vigged in that situation would almost be a relief, if you were scum, because you quit having to participate and potentially incriminate your teammates. Either way, I kind of think he has to be lynched. For one, i told whoever picked America that they were going to held 100% accountably for their shots. MZ just got all trigger happy for no reason. And secondly, if he is town, he already proved that he can't be trusted with his power. He just nuked somoene 10 minutes into the day with very, very little discussion about said player. | ||
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On April 10 2013 14:58 ObviousOne wrote: Perversely his nuke makes sense if he was going to do it through his lead of people diverting the Artanis lynch but I can see the need for going through with the lynch policy in the long run. Can't say "oh we have this policy but just not in this instance" because then its not a policy. Yeah... Sour. I want to believe. Well, the policy isn't even really the point. I never expected to enforce the policy, especially with the number of vets/ballsy "I dont give a fuck" players in this game. The real idea behind it was to try to bully "weaker"/newer players into not using the shot if they were town out of fear. As for the bolded part, I 100% agree with you that the target of his nuke makes perfect sense from a townie perspective. It's the TIMING of the nuke that doesn't. He has 36 hours from the day post to launch his nuke, and it only detonates at the end of the day. Why do it now? It just doesn't make rational sense. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18232387 Why would a scum make that post? Why not see what town decides to do after the gonzaw flip to decide if you need to hard bus? I mean, Artanis was the fkn Assassin, which is arguably one of the strongest roles in the game (ironically, Jack is one of the few roles I would rate higher than Assassin, and the assassin killed him and he killed the assasin [in a way]). That makes even less sense than a townie insta-nuking austin as the day starts. Fuck that nuke. Making the game even harder to rationalize. | ||
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On April 10 2013 15:31 Sn0_Man wrote: Well if BM isn't full of shit then caller was already bussing artanis for credit in which case a scum M_Z would know about it and do the same. I don't think thats the case because BM is so far looking like he's loopy, but its apparently a possibility. It seems like BM's whole reason for thinking Caller was scum was because Janitor was used. Deconduo already claimed Janitor becuase Mocsta claimed shooting him. It's pretty unlikely that decon was town, because 1) why would town pick janitor in slot 19? They have no reason to suspect its open, when half of the game revolved around telling early pickers to counterpick if they weren't sure they could use their roles well. Only scum picking that late would really think it might be open because they could coordinate. (Also possible that decon was another role, and claimed janitor instead of a teammate, just to fuck with us.) and 2) Why would a town janitor use the fucking ability at all? It is a 100% anti-town ability that serves no purpose in town hands. Decon is not on idiot. Not sure if BM is just bad for shooting the towniest person in the game, or if he's scum. Neither would surprise me nearly as much as Caller actually being scum and me being wrong about this. | ||
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On April 10 2013 15:46 Bill Murray wrote: keirathi, i love how you're saying MY reasoning no, that is not MY reasoning I have reasoning you wouldn't even begin to fathom... you know.. .the kind that can lead to clear town but since you're scum you won't realize that im going to keep my vote on you for the rest of this game, and I am 100% killing you if I don't die tonight If you have reasoning that can lead to a clear town, then why aren't you sharing it? | ||
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On April 10 2013 15:41 yamato77 wrote: Based on flavor, Rayn is the mafia out of the group if people that died last night. I'd also be willing to bet that there's still a town justice vig alive, as I don't think Palmar picked that role. Explain. | ||
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On April 10 2013 16:01 Mocsta wrote: Kei i like your idea.decon feign janitor to hide that a live scum is vt only by using jan power very feasible. As the move to claim jan is weird in itself i would bet a left nut this is the real story I wouldn't go that far. Role Cop would out the real Janitor so fast as scum. I mean, it would anyways for using the power night 1, but doubly so in this case because decon would have been lying for him. | ||
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Although maybe scum picked Role Cop to go along with their Assassin, so they wouldn't be scared of it. That seems like a weird scum strategy though. NRA, Janitor, and Role Cop? That's a lot of roles that could have been direct KP. | ||
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On April 10 2013 16:09 Mocsta wrote: Kei as i asked before if we voting mz to clear all doubt with double lynch do we swap out oo or sinani? I'm not so sure I want to lynch MZ right now. I need to think about it overnight. We have plenty of time, and the Lie Detector gives us options. | ||
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On April 10 2013 16:18 Bill Murray wrote: Yeah, no. You're not directing the town. I am killing you tonight, unless you prove to me you are town. Rofl, okay buddy. You go on shooting townies. I bet scum love you even if you're not one of them. | ||
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On April 10 2013 16:21 Bill Murray wrote: I don't want to lynch Sn0_Man [snip] lynch sinani and sno_man Does not compute. | ||
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On April 10 2013 16:22 Bill Murray wrote: if i wasnt roleblocked or caller hider he was scum On April 10 2013 16:22 Bill Murray wrote: but hey if you're town you have nothing to worry about Ohhhh, I get it now | ||
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