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On April 12 2013 20:32 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 20:21 Mocsta wrote: No it wasnt clear and a policy lynch with only 2 confirmed scum flips on day2 is silly to advocate.
if u want to shit on geript for "I have no idea why you guys need to make this game so incredibly annoying to read."
Why dont you show us how its done, and let us all know who the remaining scum team is. You fucking fakeclaimed a shot, for no reason. Vivax still scum, I dont know why he wants a big case written against him though, seems like that would be harder to defend. I haven't re-read his filter; but to be honest, hes not a priority read to me.
I havent found him to be overly disruptive; and I think that scum Vivax likes to be disruptive in a variety of ways.
Thoughts om cameltoe77?
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On April 11 2013 09:58 Restraining Order wrote: Bombing list without the now green check in it:
Mindlessly carpetbomb into the following people: obviousone strongandbig sharrant Mocsta Shelvocke Vivax
Decide who of those you want to lynch, I really have little in the way of strong feelings. Well I want Vivax dead, and Mocsta would be nice just so he finally shuts up. But whatever, I can deal with it if it doesn't happen.
See ya tomorrow.. Is this what u meant be case.
Let me know where to recommend you for a Mafia 2013 Best Bullshit award.
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Yeah OK Oats.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 10 2013 11:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Day 2 Caller as Andrew Mellon
On April 10 2013 12:25 Bill Murray wrote: I killed Caller btw On April 10 2013 12:30 Bill Murray wrote: Considering mafia killed Palmar, and Deconduo, Caller was scum bro On April 10 2013 12:32 Bill Murray wrote: Why is everyone mad I killed Caller? He was quite likely scum. On April 10 2013 12:33 Bill Murray wrote: We know a maf died last night since the janitor power was used. The other 3 kills will be mafia, in all likelihood, so Caller was scum. On April 10 2013 12:39 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 12:38 Sn0_Man wrote:On April 10 2013 12:33 Bill Murray wrote: We know a maf died last night since the janitor power was used. The other 3 kills will be mafia, in all likelihood, so Caller was scum. The janitor doesn't know in advance who was going to die. This logic is flawed. I know for a fact caller was scum. I will be patient.
As it is possible; he could be someone who writes posts before looking @ PM.
In review of the above: the chain of posts before he talks to Sno "knowing caller was scum" doesnt logically flow to me that he was aware. But then again, he coulda been trying to protect the role/identity.
hmmm; I will be patient and wait the 24hrs.
Still reviewing filters of VE/OO/Artanis for leads.
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Do you think Caller is certain scum though?
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On April 12 2013 20:52 Oatsmaster wrote: So Yamato isnt bullshitting. I would like to see BM flipped before yamato honestly, if you think that yamato is scum cause of that. The main fallacy I see with my BM/Yam logic is.
If BM isn't JV; *if* he is town.. he could say Yam is lying.
So yeah, i guess it does all break down there.
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Oats
Can you u give me a quick run down of points that stick out to u with Vivax?
Artanis makes some weird reasons for Vivax being town in his "final list" post. Its a lot more justified town read, than what he did for deconduo (who im thinking is town currently). So its raising an alarm bell.
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Yeah. im actually tending to agree
I have reviewed in full VE + Artanis filter.
Artanis has ~4 posts giving Vivax town reads for "meta" reasons. People keep asking him to flesh it out; but he just maintains it "meta"
The problem is: everyone else he describes as town (e.g. Keirathi) he starts by saying he thinks they are town, but then adds in something suspicious about them. With Vivax; he is a shining beacon of towniness with zero flaws.
The parity cop claim doesnt help either.
I can support a Vivax death tomorrow/tonight.
BM, would you do us the honors and fire away at Vivax?
Vivax should be nuked//lynched//shot tomorrow.
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Nice delurk Vivax
What has hard bussing got to do with being town or scum?
I dont recall you having any presence this game to get a wagon started; so your point is moot.
So Vivax. Caller scum or town?
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Vivax 
On April 07 2013 16:01 ObviousOne wrote: Gonna read SNB and GhorVivax for now. ObviousOne not sure if Vivax comrade in arms or comrade in war.
Now that we know OO is scum.. this is pretty much an association slip for you.
And yes, I am being deadly serious.
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On April 12 2013 22:05 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 21:56 Mocsta wrote: Nice delurk Vivax
What has hard bussing got to do with being town or scum?
I dont recall you having any presence this game to get a wagon started; so your point is moot.
So Vivax. Caller scum or town? Caller town. I already said that if janitor is used I'd assume every death was a townie to simplify things. They can basically only use it to discredit vigis or let jubjubs argue that 1 scum is already dead. Wow...
We can say with almost certainty that BM is a JV who shot Caller.
How can u say he is town, based on the above.
That certainly doesnt cut the mustard Vivax. Why you being such a jubjub
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who said BM is scum?
Im struggling to understand how that was an honest attempt to address the question at large.
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On April 13 2013 11:08 Keirathi wrote: Something I've been pondering:
BM says his role was renamed to Injustice Vig. What does that imply?
A justice vig can only shoot scum, or he dies. Can an Injustice Vig only shoot town, or he dies? If he's town, that's a terrible "character theme" power. But it could make the JV role pickable for scum, if they were thorough enough to ask about it before the picking phase ended. Thats the biggest bunch of WIFOM malarkey I have read this game.
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Why is it, that the only people that have been filter diving this night, and producing updated reads are:
Me & Geript mainly and partially Oats
Yet, me // Geript are still under some sort of cloud of suspicion.
Anyways, I decided not to follow the plan and check Vivax. I dont see what it achieves. He wouldnt be so stupid to lie about being parity cop.
I have decided to check a VT.
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On April 13 2013 11:59 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2013 11:42 Mocsta wrote:On April 13 2013 11:08 Keirathi wrote: Something I've been pondering:
BM says his role was renamed to Injustice Vig. What does that imply?
A justice vig can only shoot scum, or he dies. Can an Injustice Vig only shoot town, or he dies? If he's town, that's a terrible "character theme" power. But it could make the JV role pickable for scum, if they were thorough enough to ask about it before the picking phase ended. Thats the biggest bunch of WIFOM malarkey I have read this game. It's not WIFOM, it's speculation. Something is weird about BM, you can't deny that. It is, but I investing time to ponder that situation is ridiculous.
I put in a lot of time yesterday going through his filter, to come to the conclusion.
If BM wasnt JV; as town, he would call out Yam as lying. So either, both are town; or both are scum.
So i find the endeavor pointless because we all know, the JV role is self-fulfilling. We will know Day 2 which of the above 2 possibilities is validated.
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I saw he called himself Injustice Vig.
U want me to burn a check on him instead then?
Mine is role check after all.
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On April 13 2013 12:18 Keirathi wrote:Oh, I misremembered exactly what you said: Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 20:40 Mocsta wrote:On April 08 2013 11:19 Caller wrote:Alright guys just kidding we kill ObviousOne. I threw the vote on artanis because mafia love bandwagons. Now that we've gotten one, it seems pretty obvious to me that people we should be looking for are on the lower parts of the bandwagon list. But not the last one. Given that, who we we have? + Show Spoiler + Oatsmaster ##Vote: Artanis As a rule I usually try to lynch the 3rd or 4th person on the bandwagon. Since I was the 3rd person on the bandwagon, that leaves Monsieur Oatsmaster as a rather fishy hanger-on to the bandwagon. I already made a case on why I wanted to lynch him, but I don't see him as a threat right now. Still keep dis in mind plox. Meapak_Ziphh Vote: Artanis[XP] Meapak_Ziphh? Who knows. I don't care enough right now to find out. deconduo ##Vote: Shelvocke Null tell. Vivax ##Vote Sno_Man Null tell. Artanis[Xp] ##Vote: Shelvocke I don't really know what Artanis is due to lack of effort, but this follow-on vote to deconduo is pretty scummy. Palmar ##Vote Artanis[Xp] :| Shelvocke ##Vote Artanis[Xp] ah, the typical OMGUS. Normally could be a townie war, except that this is a bandwagon. Very Scummy. Keirathi ##Unvote Hmm. You want to make my life interesting, do you? 8 times out of 10 that I see this, it is a mafia trying to get town cred for not voting for obvious day 1 townie lynch. Vewy Intewesting. ObviousOne ##Vote Artanis[XP] Ah, and we get to the core of the matter. This guy has done nothing but throw ambivalency around. Yet now he's so sure that he will hop-on the bandwagonn. If you were really not sure about this and you were town, you'd be like "HANG ONS GUYS I THINKS HE MIGHT BE OKAY" and then watch helplessly as the bandwagon gains infinite momentum and lynches innocent townie #1. But nope, instead you're like "but wait guys i read his meta and came out with some random conclusions that don't actually mean anything because meta is stupid especially among players that have played this game more than three days." I actually went ahead and read his filter for those games, and I think that your conclusions are bullshit that can easily be construed as whatever you want.. Given that he explicitly stated that as mafia he would be "next time" more involved, but that he simply got lost due to large amount of posts, do you expect any credence that his behaving similar to the previous game is any true indication of his alignment this game? No. You shouldn't. And it's a dumb reason for going on a dumb bandwagon, but it makes you look nice! VOTE THIS GUY. yamato77 ##Vote Artanis I'm fairly satisfied that yamato is town as it stands. I'll still jump on him in a heartbeat but I don't think he's mafia. Restraining Order ##Vote: Artanis Strangely enough, I think RO is town. Are you gonna get a reason for it? Nope. Why the fuck would "scum" caller try to divert the lynch from "assassin" artanis to "cpr medic" ObviousOne. The only benefit of assassin is day kill; CPR doesnt need role claim, so its possibly more valuable. Caller was town. Full Stop.BM is certainly not JusticeVig. He still *may* be town. Yamato is 100% confirmed scum. Why?Palmar makes sense as emperor; and Rayn was too high up the draft to risk it all on the dreamflower. Now we know BM is not JV; how is Yam a VT. Simple.. he is not. ] That was the weird post, because BM already hard claimed JV. I guess you did decide later that he was JV. I dotn know what he is. Will find out when this cycle is over.
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lol. yam is prob scum
he knew deconduo was town recently in a post
now hes trying to bring wifom to traitor role
I checked shevlocke; he is indeed VT.
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sorry. i should say vanilla
not VT
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nah. shevlocke is completely off the cards.
Night 1.. i said Sinani /Shevlocke were confirmed town for the way, confirmed scum went after them for lynch
You fucks all laughed at me.
We know SInani is green check.
& they *all* went after shevlocke even harder.. Shevlocke is town; and confirmed vanilla.
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