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On April 05 2013 05:34 strongandbig wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 04 2013 22:47 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 22:46 Restraining Order wrote:On April 04 2013 22:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2013 22:41 Restraining Order wrote:On April 04 2013 22:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2013 22:36 Restraining Order wrote:On April 04 2013 22:35 Caller wrote: oim tellin ya gits just do wot i say. any mo discussin' of deez bad scummy planz iz gonna be a big' ol scum flag fo me. so if you don' wanna incur da wrath of khaller i sugest ya gitz find somethin' else to dizcus. in meantime, just folo mah straterjee, oite? You mean, as opposed to claiming, you want people to claim. After you said claiming is nonsense and doesn't work. New rule, whoever tries to get someone lynched of a joke is scum. RO is scum. Am I mafia independently of the first sentence, or did I already try to get someone lynched without myself noticing? Pointing out contradictions is pointing out that the dude is lying and therefore scum. So yeah. Also WHO ARE YOU If I wanted to point out a person is mafia, I would have pointed out a person is mafia. However, I did no such thing. pshhhh words. Intention is far more important than mere WORDS. Why did you phrase that 'question' to Caller in a way to appear like you are discrediting him? it's not the facts that matter, it's the meaning behind the facts. Anyways. Looking through snb filter and found this tribute to blazing hand.
Amazingly, this is a direct scum claim.
Snb is a meticulous guy. U can tell from his diatribe about the kenpachi rule in noir obsqt.
This scum claim is a direct reference to a scum blazing hand in the game. U will have to read the obsqt to get the reference. But essentially its a manipulation tactic.
Snb in all the town games I played with him is meticulous to detail and aggressive in reads.
He most certainly does not shit the thread with throw away comments like the above.
If that's not enough for. Its a weak chain defense in relation to caller being called out by ro.
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On April 05 2013 05:44 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 02:53 Caller wrote: wait how does vivax know there are five mafia hahaha For shits and giggles
Another useless snb thread interaction.
look who is the topic starter.
Caller again
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On April 07 2013 06:09 strongandbig wrote: On other news shelvocke is scum?
How has VE been refusing to play? A vote on ve at this point needs way more justification than the sentence he posted. Last one
This is the guy that jumped onboard the die ve bus.
Now the content of the post is fair enough to be townie.. But..
The tone is scum , with the knowledge ve is scum.
Town response.. Its early game, give the guy a chance to participate.
Scum response... See above He's actually trying to quash an activity case on ve, without trying to define ve alignment.
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On April 09 2013 01:07 strongandbig wrote: Yeah I agree with what I said before about VE.
I still think artanis is decently likely to be scum, as is shelvocke and to a lesser extent OO.
But I'm gonna go ahead and
##vote: VE OK I lied
Last one for real
This is his first vote in the game
He even admits he finds artanis scummy, and commented on the case priore agreeing with some points.
Why is this his first vote in the game then?
Why did he ask ppl who tried for assassin to claim. Before this vote.
Yeah, we got scum right here.
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Vivax has refused to claim a couple times.
How come everyone is ignoring my points on snb?
Gimme feedback pl0x
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Hmmm
Well I'm going to bed
Its too hard dining everything on a phone.
N whilst snb is overall low activity as town, or lurky as u say. I still find he makes some posts that have impact.
Neways the key is. During the artanis debacle he never takes a firm stance .. Using OK as his excuse for scum hunting.. Yet never votes or pressures hard.
Night. Sorry I regressed to the point u stopped reading my posts. That's a shame on my behalf.
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Vivax.
Who did u parity check Austin with?
I'm not claiming yet as its not my turn. As I said before I crumbed it. So will release when I wake up
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Austin.
Personally I read pointed 1 and 3 as looking for vt to use assassin on.
Its moot as can be taken as townie or scum.
As for point 2. Its all fluff. He says this, he says that, but what does he actually do?
Why does he say he agrees with art an is having scummy points, and then try to push too out of no where, dodging any responsibility with artanis.
His vote doesn't come in till after geript NRA post. So ve was fucked regardless.
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Corollary then is
If u know who is vt
U k ow who not to shoot
Its all subjective and can be spun
I stand by it being moot
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BTW Austin.
Are u just reading the filter literally or taking into account the thread sentiment?
Shevlocke wasn't getting lynched day1.
It was either artanis or ve.
In my opinion, your point 2 is snb giving a fleshed out summary post.
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I'm going to bed. I'm not claiming my role outright. Its not my turn and bm hinted he may not be justice for whatever reason.
So I am either Bloodycobbler, capitalist or vigilante.
I don't think its important to known right now which one it is exactly. I either have 1 kp left, or a couple role checks. I prefer scum to be kept on toes.
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OK. im here and caught up
will present my crumbs in a second.
But firstly, im pretty disappointed with the discussions held around me over night. I actually thought this was one of my better games; at least Day1/Night1. I thought I have been pretty damn open in all thoughts; yes, I have said some dumb things -as most. But its all aided in helping solve the game. Yes, since Day2, I have been spammier; but its because, half this town just ignores questions presented to them. Or respond to accusations by "LOL". This does nothing to facilitate discussions. Its very frustrating.
Austin prob going to shoot me; so whatevs, learning lesson for everyone. I still dont like SnB, and i dont thnk him making a list post of claims is alignment indicative. So the contributions are still fuck all.
& lastly, you can laugh at those posts with "meticulous" or whatever, but i was writing that all on a tablet. its a pain in the arse, and im going to write whats convenient for me; not what necessarily communicates itself the best.
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I specifically didnt want to hard claim because of BM. He has denied being the JV.. so there was a chance he would try for vig or capitalist. Because I crumbed (in my opinion pretty hard).. i had a chance to catch him on a lie.
Secondly.. Austin, i didnt make a case on deconduo late in the cycle. I made if halfway through and followed it through consistently; and debated with Palmar about it. I put lots of pressure on Deconduo in the thread; so because Palmar was my 3rd scum read at the time, I wanted to shoot him.. hence the crumbs are with him.
Towards the end of the cycle, I changed my mind with Palmar, so went back to my top scum read and shot Deconduo.
Crumbs (1) I have vested interest in the role... because of my draft order, i PMd originally for 'recruiting mason"; hence my comment to Oats about almost making him VT. I took a gamble and went for capitalist, because all up I thought it was a really awesome town role.
On April 05 2013 14:51 Mocsta wrote: ... yeah, thats why for town i like roles like "capitalist" which wasnt in ya pod.
You get 1 KP, and 3 role-checks. Nice balance.
To Palmar (who i was considering shooting due to his unwillingness to consider dec as scum)
On April 09 2013 20:27 Mocsta wrote:
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Don't tell me how to scumhunt bitch; or ima pop a cap in yo ass.
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Anyways, you can't refute what I said, and the more you try; the more im gonna have to get all business with you.
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(3) To Austin (who I had a weak scum read on Day 1)
On April 08 2013 10:21 Mocsta wrote: ...... Back to business pl0x: ...... I repeat: A town AustinMCC is better than this.
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On April 12 2013 10:25 Vivax wrote:Feeling guilty mocsta?  No.. just annoyed
Its pretty demotivating when you are trying to engage people in discussion and constantly provoke people to actually think. And then everyone just shits all over you.
Lastly, Geript play has really been alerting me all cycle.
His only strong opinion with foundation has been VE, who he tunneled relentlessly. And he has that stupid post, where he calls me town based on an alignment null post. Later, he regresses and associates me with scum.
And then there is this stupid bickering with Sn0, who is prob CPR Medic based on claims thus far.
If im alive night 2, im role checking Geript.
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At least ppl gave you resistance.
I just got ignored.
There is a big difference Austin.
I can handle the being ignored; because at least people like Kei have kept going back/forth with me.
But when you get called scummy for trying to generate meaningful conversation; that is truly annoying.
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On April 12 2013 10:41 Sharrant wrote: The GF's ability that "covers" a player, does it obscure their flip as well? Like, if he made someone appear as a certain role and alignment would the player revert to their actual role and alignment, or would they flip as what he covered them?
This just popped into my head, it may be a little paranoid but whatever:
The Godfather role says he can cover a player "CHANGING THEIR ROLE AND ALIGNMENT" as opposed to the framer which says "CHANGE HOW ONE'S ALIGNMENT APPEARS". This makes me think that it would obscure a flip as well. What if Caller didn't kill a mafia, what if Artanis was made to look like the assassin?
I think I'm getting really paranoid with that one, and BC will probably come in and say their proper alignment is revealed upon flip, but that would really change where we are in the game. Mod confirmed, the GF was a bonus
meaning.. he chose a KP role; and had a Killer type Role PM.
So I suspect this is paranoid, but we shall see when he responds I guess.
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On April 12 2013 10:43 austinmcc wrote: Yeah, there's not much time to shoot but I'm serious when I've said all along that the long game favors town and I don't think people should be firing KP all over the place. Perhaps it's dumb to not use the shot, but oh well.
Only thing I'm super considering is shooting obviousone, as a prelynch almost, since it appears that he's going down. But I don't love having stalled this long, only to dick with the double lynch this late in the cycle.
Frankly, I don't love my play during the nuke day as a whole. Not enough scumhunting, too much crappy play and disinterest in game. If you're shooting OO
I have to reconsider votes as I had OO
and no one wants to join SnB; so will have to shift that vote some where more useful.
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I prob down with a Shevlocke/Geript lynch
if you shooting OO
otherwise
OO/Shevlocke (for that showtime VT thingo)
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On April 12 2013 10:48 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 10:31 Mocsta wrote: And then there is this stupid bickering with Sn0, who is prob CPR Medic based on claims thus far. Things that I am NOT: CPR Medic WTF lol
so its possible the role was WIFOM'd out of the game.. funny
wasnt sharrant obsessed with that role before? And now he is "vt" going for detective?
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On April 12 2013 10:48 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 10:44 Mocsta wrote:On April 12 2013 10:41 Sharrant wrote: The GF's ability that "covers" a player, does it obscure their flip as well? Like, if he made someone appear as a certain role and alignment would the player revert to their actual role and alignment, or would they flip as what he covered them?
This just popped into my head, it may be a little paranoid but whatever:
The Godfather role says he can cover a player "CHANGING THEIR ROLE AND ALIGNMENT" as opposed to the framer which says "CHANGE HOW ONE'S ALIGNMENT APPEARS". This makes me think that it would obscure a flip as well. What if Caller didn't kill a mafia, what if Artanis was made to look like the assassin?
I think I'm getting really paranoid with that one, and BC will probably come in and say their proper alignment is revealed upon flip, but that would really change where we are in the game. Mod confirmed, the GF was a bonus meaning.. he chose a KP role; and had a Killer type Role PM. So I suspect this is paranoid, but we shall see when he responds I guess. Nono, the GF's ability. I know the GF part was a bonus. But Artanis might not have been the Assassin GF. If say, Sn0man (just picking a name at this point) had picked the role Godfather and used the ability to cover Artanis, would Artanis' death reveal his original role, or the role that he was covered with. To be frank, this is reading to me as a last minute WIFOM attempt before lynch deadline.
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