EPTBeyond that, it's possible he got his role stolen by the guy who prevents use the night he steals, but BM was like 20th pick so no thief in their right mind targets him. Plus I thought BM would be informed of this and would share it
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Sn0_Man
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Beyond that, it's possible he got his role stolen by the guy who prevents use the night he steals, but BM was like 20th pick so no thief in their right mind targets him. Plus I thought BM would be informed of this and would share it . | ||
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Restraining Order
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On April 11 2013 04:54 yamato77 wrote: If it is Dandel Ion, as it appears, just sheep him and kill scum. Fixed that. You guys should stop being massive jelly about how confirmed town I am, and in how many awesome mason circles I am. I'm starting to blush. | ||
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Keirathi
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On April 11 2013 04:35 Sn0_Man wrote: Right now my biggest questions are Bill Murray (everything about him is so WTF?) So I was thinking about BM some more because of this post. BM almost HAS to be town. What do we know? 1) BM claims Justice Vigi who shot Caller 2) Caller died, BM still alive 3) yamato claimed he tried to take justice vigi. 4) Justice Vigi is 100% not a mafia role. They can't shoot townies with it. So what does that mean? First off, if BM was lying but yamato isn't, then why hasn't the real JV counterclaimed BM yet? So yea, not likely at all, IMO. The only way BM is not JV is if him and yamato BOTH lied. Why would scum link themselves together in a lie like that? If BM ever flips anything other than JV, it outs yamato as lying. If yamato ever flips anything other than VT (and especially if he flips scum non-VT), it makes BM's claim questionable. Maybe not auto-lynch worthy (because scum yamato could have thought about the implications of lying about JV to make BM possibly look bad later but I don't find that very likely at all), but worth looking into. | ||
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austinmcc
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On April 11 2013 05:09 Sn0_Man wrote: We know that SOMEONE took the justice vigi role, or yamato is lying and taking a sizeable risk, given that he's got to claim early.Hmm, so anybody with a Role (no alignment necessary) check may wish to use it on BM tonight for confirmation. (Justice vig = town, not JV = scum) Beyond that, it's possible he got his role stolen by the guy who prevents use the night he steals, but BM was like 20th pick so no thief in their right mind targets him. Plus I thought BM would be informed of this and would share it .BM probably not a good check based on that, plus, justice vigi is a role that confirms himself. Janitor is gone, so either a mafia member dies EVERY night phase, or the justice vigi dies. If you don't see either of those things happen, there is no justice vigi, and yamato is lying and gets lynched. Because the role is compulsive and has a confirmable outcome, there's no need to check whoever claims it. The claim gets verified by the flips in the case of that role. | ||
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Sn0_Man
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On April 11 2013 05:12 Keirathi wrote: So I was thinking about BM some more because of this post. BM almost HAS to be town. What do we know? 1) BM claims Justice Vigi who shot Caller 2) Caller died, BM still alive 3) yamato claimed he tried to take justice vigi. 4) Justice Vigi is 100% not a mafia role. They can't shoot townies with it. So what does that mean? First off, if BM was lying but yamato isn't, then why hasn't the real JV counterclaimed BM yet? So yea, not likely at all, IMO. The only way BM is not JV is if him and yamato BOTH lied. Why would scum link themselves together in a lie like that? If BM ever flips anything other than JV, it outs yamato as lying. If yamato ever flips anything other than VT (and especially if he flips scum non-VT), it makes BM's claim questionable. Maybe not auto-lynch worthy (because scum yamato could have thought about the implications of lying about JV to make BM possibly look bad later but I don't find that very likely at all), but worth looking into. Yeah, I've basically come to the conclusion that BM is insane but somehow confirmed town in this case. Unvoted him in favour of sinani. | ||
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Sn0_Man
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On April 11 2013 05:14 austinmcc wrote: BM probably not a good check based on that, plus, justice vigi is a role that confirms himself. Janitor is gone, so either a mafia member dies EVERY night phase, or the justice vigi dies. If you don't see either of those things happen, there is no justice vigi, and yamato is lying and gets lynched. Because the role is compulsive and has a confirmable outcome, there's no need to check whoever claims it. The claim gets verified by the flips in the case of that role. Good point. BM is a bad check, we'll know enough about him come Day 3. | ||
yamato77
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On April 11 2013 05:14 austinmcc wrote: We know that SOMEONE took the justice vigi role, or yamato is lying and taking a sizeable risk, given that he's got to claim early. BM probably not a good check based on that, plus, justice vigi is a role that confirms himself. Janitor is gone, so either a mafia member dies EVERY night phase, or the justice vigi dies. If you don't see either of those things happen, there is no justice vigi, and yamato is lying and gets lynched. Because the role is compulsive and has a confirmable outcome, there's no need to check whoever claims it. The claim gets verified by the flips in the case of that role. Unless the target is both mafia and protected, in which case no one dies. Would be pretty troll, though. | ||
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Keirathi
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Sn0_Man
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Keirathi
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Information incoming Soon(TM*), say tuned. *Soon is a registered trademark of the Blizzard Entertainment Company. | ||
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austinmcc
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Keirathi
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Information will still come, regardless! | ||
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Restraining Order
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Anyways, contributions: how2solve game - an easy setp-by-step guide Mindlessly carpetbomb into the following people: obviousone Sinani206 strongandbig sharrant Mocsta Shelvocke Vivax -> gg easy | ||
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strongandbig
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On April 11 2013 06:14 Restraining Order wrote: Butbut, it might be relevant! Anyways, contributions: how2solve game - an easy setp-by-step guide Mindlessly carpetbomb into the following people: obviousone Sinani206 strongandbig sharrant Mocsta Shelvocke Vivax -> gg easy nooooo im town dont carpet bomb meeeeeeee | ||
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Restraining Order
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On April 11 2013 06:15 strongandbig wrote: nooooo im town dont carpet bomb meeeeeeee You're funny. How about we carpetbomb you last? That should be a deal we're both happy with. You know - meeting halfway and stuff. | ||
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Keirathi
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sinani206: you are being called in for questioning about your links tot he mafia syndicate. You shall be subject to a thorough Lie Detector Test. Remember, only answer using a simple Yes or No. Question 1: On April 07 2013 05:22 sinani206 wrote: VE are you going to take this game seriously or not? Because if you aren't, I have no qualms with lynching you. Is this the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? "Yes" Question 2: On April 07 2013 14:48 sinani206 wrote: VisceraEyes: I was leaning scum before and he hasn't really done anything to change my mind besides participating a little bit more. To be on the safe side, I'll say null with a red tinge. Was this a scumslip? In that you had to play it safe because you didn't want to look bad after you knew VE would flip scum? "No." Question 3: On April 08 2013 06:46 sinani206 wrote: gonzaw are you going to claim exactly what your role is? Was this an attempt to rolefish so that your scumbuddy, Mr. Artanis the Assassin, could kill gonzaw? "No." Question 4: On April 10 2013 11:43 sinani206 wrote: K this numbered shit is dumb. I could see MZ just as having messed up, but that was a really, REALLY stupid nuke. With a double lynch, I guess we could kill him and someone else, but I'd prefer to actually try to kill scum. This quote seems to indicate that you KNOW that one Mr. Meapak_Ziphh is town, rather than just suspect. Is that true? "No." Question 5: On April 10 2013 11:49 sinani206 wrote: Not really worth the anti-nuke, tbh. This seems to indicate at the time that you felt that Mr. Austin wasn't worth saving, despite the green check. Is that because you are scum and therefore scared of Mr. Austin? "No". Very well, sinani206. Sit tight. We'll have the results soon. ![[image loading]](http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/07-10-10images/lie_detection_02.jpg) BEEPBOOPBEEPBOOPBEEPBOOPBEEPBOOPBEEPBOOPBEEPBOOP Well, well, well. Looks like we have some results. So how do you think you did Mr. Sinani? "I am telling the truth." We'll see about that. Let's take a look at your chart, eh? ![[image loading]](https://antipolygraph.org/graphics/chart-sample-01.jpg) Steady, rhymic pulse. Normal perspiration. All-in-all, it does look like you are telling the truth. Very well, my Sinani, you may go. Thanks for your time. VERDICT: INNOCENT (Yes, that means he's town) + Show Spoiler [Explanation] + Sorry, all this was just RP for funsies. The Lie Detector isn't really a Lie Detector at all. It's just a day DT check, with a few conditionals. It could only be used on the person leading the vote count, and it could only be used if that person had at least 5 votes. I decided to check sinani since he's borderline unreadable, and doing it now gives the thread plenty of time to discuss an alternate candidate if he is town. If he's scum, then awesome. ##Unvote: sinani206 | ||
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Sn0_Man
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Keirathi
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ObviousOne strongandbig Sharrant Vivax Any lynch outside of these 4 today is a waste, IMO. I'm leaning towards Sharrant and Vivax right now. | ||
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Mocsta
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That and caller being scum blows my mind. Guess its the equivalent to svcum vivax vigging scum to in Mafia lx. If I took a guess. Deconduo was town then. And not lying when he said he used it to learn alignments. So two scum out there. Gonna re read sharrant. His retort was pretty weak, and he never came back like he promised. I'm gonna relook into Shevlocke. Its clear now this scum team had no qualms throwing all under the bus. We have a chance to finish off the game this cycle with double lynch. | ||
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