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On April 09 2013 00:41 Oatsmaster wrote: nope Yamato made a spectacle too.
With the alignment check IN THREAD.
Then the 'pro gf shot right here'
Then the aftermath.
Its the same. Just that there was more activity in personality at that time then here.
The basic point is similar. PLEASE DONT BE STUPID. Your the idiot.
Yam never gave kurumi an opportunity to fix his play/fight for his life. The kill already went through with the alignment check. Hence, all this noise you are talking about, was post-incoming death.
Caller made it clear; Artanis had time to respond; as if he had a nuke. He was making a spectacle pre-death sanction.
Again, there is no similarity.
You are really starting to agitate me. You feel the urge to chime in incessantly to argue small matters.
Whats your fucking problem.
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On April 09 2013 00:56 austinmcc wrote: Any reason in particular why I should lynch VE over shelvocke? Yeah
His playstyle this game is suitable if he NRA as per SnB diagnosis.
If he is NRA, then, he needs to be lynched.
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Well done on the scum double lunch.
Caller you are an idiot. Why would scum lead a lynch on NRA member who benefits from being cast as dodgy and suspect to investigation.
There's been lots of productive convo since the deaths.
Shelvocke is certainly confirmed town. Based on artanis actions.
For day2 I would be keen on a Palmar lynch. its clear as water he is only trolling this game. In fact. I asked him for a read on vivax earlier. He lists him as confirmed town with no justification. Whereas the case from restraining ordewr does show some nice with artanis, who also called him town,
Palmar early votes ve and artanis. But never walks us through why. Its all sheep to thread sentiment. so he gets no town cred for it.
Then he comes in to throw suspicion over ppl that moved off artanis. Which is ridiculous. ,as most thought he improved his towniness, and again why move from scum to scum. The crux of choosing ve over artanis was the NRA role which had to be lynched to avoid a town kp sacrifice.
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Palmar I,ve been waiting so hard so long
My balls are blue
I need release.
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On April 07 2013 18:39 Palmar wrote: VE is very far from likely town.
Shut up Oats. I like this quote Palmar from u
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On April 09 2013 08:50 geript wrote: @Mocsta how do you feel about austin? I havnt liked Austin since the beginning of the game; and FoS him.
Hes a slippery player; but is also capable of playing poorly as town (see Mafia LIX).
I really didnt like the exchanges regarding Artanis; even after he conceded most of the arguments to me - he still called Artanis town. And this was prior to Gonzaw death and Art shaping up.
That doesnt cement him as scum though; Austin likes to be devils advocate regardless of alignment.
In short - what im saying is: Austin takes a lot of effort to come to a set conclusion over. I still dont like his play, but, I think there is easier scum to catch and filter trawl than AustinMCC.
================== We are in a good position from Day1, but have no idea where we will be after Night1. We know scum KP will be on town; but if town has night KP we have no idea if it will be on scum. In particular, if a janitor is used.
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On April 09 2013 09:05 Palmar wrote:no mocsta wants to lynch be because I was right about scum and he doesn't understand why. + Show Spoiler +It's a common thing, here's an old quote from bugs about me: On August 24 2011 19:51 wherebugsgo wrote: You're not scum because you're right.
You're scum because you were right when no one else was.
I was town. Nice try Beard Man.
I want to lynch you because this game you have been nothing but empty promises; or perhaps a cleanly shaved face.
Yes you voted VE early, but were not the initiator. + Show Spoiler +On April 07 2013 03:28 geript wrote: ##vote Visceraeyes On April 07 2013 06:24 Palmar wrote: ##Vote VisceraEyes
Yes, you were suspicious of VE early, but, the push never had conviction. + Show Spoiler +On April 07 2013 00:42 Palmar wrote: I think VE is scum based on activity alone.
Still not spent time reading vivax. On April 08 2013 09:46 Palmar wrote: I just love killing VE dude, that's all.
also I thought his post regarding the plans was overly fake for VE.
Yes, you "knew" VE was scum, but, you never made an effort to convince others; instead you antagonise/berate. + Show Spoiler +On April 07 2013 18:39 Palmar wrote: VE is very far from likely town.
Shut up Oats.
Yes, Artanis flipped scum, but, since when does Palmar throw 'cheap shots' around. + Show Spoiler +On April 09 2013 05:31 Palmar wrote: also shame on the people who were going to back off artanis when gonzaw was shot for calling him scum.
The above by itself doesnt make you scum. I concede "in a vacuum" it looks more like lazy town.
However, we are not in a vacuum.
We are in a game where the the thread sentiment has shifted many times; and with that opinion incorporated - these comments can be mostly ignored as noise. They are simply not memorable like a town Palmar can be; and *is* as town. They had zero impact on the game; and even the meek vote on VE comes after Geript lays the smack down.
Further, whilst im not familiar with Palmar "meta" pre-2013; I havent seen a town palmar in modern times be antagonistic the way you are this game. In particular your response post VE death. I still remeber a trolling Palmar in Nomination who flipped a switch and became the towniest motherfucker in the game. And there even when trolling you werent so pessimistic/antagonistic like this game.
Palmar is known to have no issues pressuring his fellow scummers, and can you seriously say Palmar tried to get VE lynched? Further (WIFOM alert), all this "foreplay/noise" does is tease town into certainly using a night action on VE - and hence death by NRA.
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Regardless that I think Restraining Order case on Vivax has merit: I wont bother with a Vivax spiel because the guy hasnt flipped; so its all association.
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Give it to me Palmar, why am i 'apparently' wrong, and bugs quote throws the above all down the toilet.
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On April 09 2013 09:11 Vivax wrote: I'd probably think I'm scum myself in some other townies' shoes. Got all my reads wrong, was willing to lynch VE but not ahead of others, defended Artanis.
Whyyyy Can I have thoughts on Yam about turn with Artanis?
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On April 09 2013 09:20 Vivax wrote:Or this dude maybe? Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 01:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Gonzaw <3 I had forgotten about Artanis/hadn't felt like I had enough evidence to go after him. That part that really rang a bell for me was that + Show Spoiler +He's made a few posts that are like three paragraphs long so they look like a solid post but in fact don't say anything... my dear old friend CWC (contributing without contributing) doing work.
I'd like more people to comment on my shevlocke case which, while I feel it is weaker than the artanis case, is my number two suspect.
I also feel that vivax is scummy, however he's like number three on my list.
Two people I want opinions on are Strongandbig and sharrant. Not sure what to make of either of them atm. Thats his second quick +1 on scum
On April 08 2013 09:06 Palmar wrote: I still think VE is scum.
Disengaged VE has almost always been scum. On April 08 2013 09:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I actually am starting to feel this might be the case. My previous read on VE was based on the activity level and contributions at the time I had read the thread. Now it's been uncharacteristically long since I've seen him in the thread and like Palmar says, VE is more likely to be scum when he isn't here as much.
VE I'm gonna need some good quality reads out of you as well as some serious contribution or I'm gonna start thinking you don't care. And if you don't care then you're scum.
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On April 09 2013 09:41 Palmar wrote: oh I did try to get VE lynched ^^ Pls grow the beard back
Much sexier.
I cant remember; do you prefer for a date: Sinani or Sn0_Man?
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On April 09 2013 09:44 Palmar wrote: I'm fine with murdering them both So out of a 3 man scum team; you expect both to be there?
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On April 09 2013 09:47 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 09:38 Mocsta wrote:On April 09 2013 09:11 Vivax wrote: I'd probably think I'm scum myself in some other townies' shoes. Got all my reads wrong, was willing to lynch VE but not ahead of others, defended Artanis.
Whyyyy Can I have thoughts on Yam about turn with Artanis? I see yamato being wrong with his preferences at the wrong time. Don't think scum was defending Artanis anyway, it was futile, I was already doing the job for them and they saw it didn't work. They'd rather do stuff a la MZ like agreeing a little with the case while trying to push other targets. I find it weird that yamato wants Shenlong lynched, a lot of scummy candidates tried to get him lynched. who da fuq is shenlong?
You know the above sounds reasonable, but, artanis also sounded reasonable in the final stages.
Im still figuring out whether Artanis was hard defending a town read (like BH to Good Karma in "the game") The RO case looks good though.
Did you end up rebuttling it? Because i dont think i saw anything.
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On April 09 2013 09:46 Palmar wrote: yeah and mz and vivax too. Pal-mar 
Im still "waiting",
you know, for that special "thang" you promised.
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On April 09 2013 09:51 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 09:49 Mocsta wrote:On April 09 2013 09:47 Vivax wrote:On April 09 2013 09:38 Mocsta wrote:On April 09 2013 09:11 Vivax wrote: I'd probably think I'm scum myself in some other townies' shoes. Got all my reads wrong, was willing to lynch VE but not ahead of others, defended Artanis.
Whyyyy Can I have thoughts on Yam about turn with Artanis? I see yamato being wrong with his preferences at the wrong time. Don't think scum was defending Artanis anyway, it was futile, I was already doing the job for them and they saw it didn't work. They'd rather do stuff a la MZ like agreeing a little with the case while trying to push other targets. I find it weird that yamato wants Shenlong lynched, a lot of scummy candidates tried to get him lynched. who da fuq is shenlong? You know the above sounds reasonable, but, artanis also sounded reasonable in the final stages. Im still figuring out whether Artanis was hard defending a town read (like BH to Good Karma in "the game") The RO case looks good though. Did you end up rebuttling it? Because i dont think i saw anything. I think I won't rebut it. I look like I look and I'll rather spend time talking about others. At least for not wanting to lynch Artanis I already posted my reasoning, as for VE he's been similarly inactive in a running game so I didn't put too much into that. I bought VE's case on RO. That's basically all I have to say to my defense. Im going to cut you some slack (sorry RO).
Like I said to Geript (about Austin) if you are scum, I think it will become more clear through individual actions as the game progresses (as opposed to association tells).
I like the above, its simple and completely reasonable.
Regardless of your presence, you are playing more like 'The Game" than "Mafia LX"; which I will treat for the time being as a town tell.
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There was debate particuarly from Oats/Austin on whether town should fire night KP.
What is your stance? If town KP is available, do you think it is worth using it, on the chance that a janitor is used?
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On April 09 2013 09:57 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 09:50 Mocsta wrote:On April 09 2013 09:46 Palmar wrote: yeah and mz and vivax too. Pal-mar  Im still "waiting", you know, for that special "thang" you promised. already here dude, you're just not getting it. For whatever reason, you seem to be responding to me the most this game.
Walk me through it quickly, so I can focus my energies on "real" targets then.
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On April 09 2013 10:04 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 10:03 geript wrote: I'm still hurt that you didn't give me any credit for VE Palmar. I may have to go to my room to cry myself to sleep. you didn't even help getting him killed the context suggest tr0ll
But the words suggest sincerity
*ouch* Geript
<3 your efforts went a long towards lynching VE
shame on you Palmar.
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On April 09 2013 10:02 Palmar wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 09 2013 09:58 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 09:57 Palmar wrote:On April 09 2013 09:50 Mocsta wrote:On April 09 2013 09:46 Palmar wrote: yeah and mz and vivax too. Pal-mar  Im still "waiting", you know, for that special "thang" you promised. already here dude, you're just not getting it. For whatever reason, you seem to be responding to me the most this game. Walk me through it quickly, so I can focus my energies on "real" targets then. Nah it's more funny this way. Also you're totally town so I'm fine with trolling you. I cant put my finger on it... but.. this makes me totally comfortable with you.
Man i hate you so much palmar.. SO SO much.. why are you so god-damn charismatic.
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OK, im pretty comfortable with MZ as tomorrows lynch; if town doesnt take care of him tonight. The guy has been the ultimate blender.
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On April 09 2013 10:07 strongandbig wrote: Hey I said we should lunch VE too give meeeeee the town creeeeeeds
Lol
Night phase so borink How did taking VE out to lunch go?
prob explains his absence.
But yes, you confirmed town for me.
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On April 09 2013 10:08 Palmar wrote: also mocsta, remember my analysis about why the nra and assassin were both scum? yeah bitch, that's what's up. lol.. that analysis was common sense; we already knew the answer to both of those.
Your not getting brownie points from me on that one. Yeah bitch, that's what's up.
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