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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 31 2013 05:11 GMT
#2207
Hapa let me explain.
As I told you, a lurktastic day 2 is because I dont have access to a computer most of the time, so if Im scum, as you seem to think, that isnt the reason.

Day 1.
I pushed Palmar. Good push cause I didnt get slammed for it, I just turned out to be wrong. So you saying that its a bad push WAY after the fact is totally weird.

I read nisani's filter, thought he was the type of player to be either useless town or useless scum, as I stated many times. Do you disagree?

So I wanted to kill Sinani because I thought that it would be 1 or the other, now im not so sure. Anyway back to day 1.

So the Nisani lynch was gaining momentum, Palmar wasnt getting lynched. I have a town read on marv. Marv pushes Keirathi, I agree with him that keirathi is scummy, but after discussing shit with him and 'forcing' him to claim, he is town.

Before this, marv was pushing Nisani, and I didnt really pay attention because of what I said.

I needed to make a decision though.
And some people pointed out that Palmar was also voting for sinani and again, I have a town read on Marv, maybe he saw something I didnt.

So I sheeped marv.

And voted for nisani,

ANY QUESTIONS?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 31 2013 06:34 GMT
#2209
Acro is dead, right.

Hmm.

Something to think about is why Acro/scumteam chose OO and dandel ion instead of Kier or Cora or marv or hapa, who I would definetely consider first before those two.

Rayn, explain your role fully please.

Also possibly when Acro switched the 2 lynches, that meant that he instantly died.

Which means Rayn is bullshitting and is scum.

Honestly the weird stuff he posted after he 'killed' Acro is just really weird from a town point of view.

He wasnt happy he killed scum, he was happy he shot?

And kept asking for people to counterclaim him.
That just does not come from a townie. SnB didnt do it.
List of posts following the Acro shot
[spoiler]
On March 31 2013 10:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I shot acro.

On March 31 2013 10:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
IN THE FACE!

On March 31 2013 10:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
go on and cc...

On March 31 2013 10:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2013 10:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Soooo, you're not a mason-cop?

I am. I can also kill ppl. Cora / Keir 100% confirmed, as i checked them Coron n1. And yea, i killed acro <3

Come on and cc me.

[spoiler]
Clear emphasis on someone counterclaiming him. So fucking weird

On March 31 2013 10:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2013 10:22 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 31 2013 10:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
go on and cc...


112
BLFG
03-28-2013
06:22 PM ET (US)
Okay whatever. My power is that i can check if someone is in a mason circle. Keir and Cora are legit. That makes them town. Period.


Why'd you fake-claim?

Because there was the anti-ton fucker.... Acro? ::D

why not=?

Ok. Look at his 'fake claim' timing. That was ~3 days before the shot.

On March 30 2013 10:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 10:17 ObviousOne wrote:
Acro is also on the campaign against me that SNB was running from - that my word choice somehow espouses a mafia mindset. The only point regarding me I felt had any value at all was that I was putting in a lot of effort and he gave me the null stamp.

I have to agree with Acro on this. A lot of your reads (even your case on me from D1) is full of "might or might not be". I don't like that, because as mafia you are already giving yourself an out by saying "i might be wrong but...".

Show nested quote +
What I did not like about Acro's action N1 was questioning why/what was to be gained from looking at how the D1 lynch wagon came about. Funny that he wouldn't want that to be discussed when he was 100% absolutely no-question certain that Nisani was mafia for most of D1. How better to shut down that conversation than to discredit the only person willing to put in the work to do it?

I agree with Acro on this also. I think most of your N1 "plan" was based on that sinani is mafia (which town can't know). That would be a lot of discussion worth nothing (or needed to be revisited) if sinani in fact is town.


This is like 2 days after his 'fakeclaim' right? Reading this I would think that Rayn had a townread on Acro. The first mention of his scumread on him is

On March 30 2013 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: fail formatting.

Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 22:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rayn, get useful fast.

Response to Acro and Keir's case and my case and relationship with sinani please.

I went through Acro's filter. I could definitely see him being scum. I noticed the same thing that Keirathi bases his case on (saying we're not lynching marv -> making a case on marv). I missed it earlier because i thought i only argued with DI (and Oats?) about the "accusing marv will cause a shitfest, therefore he can't be lynched on D1" thing. Anothir thing i find out that points towards him being scum is that i notice a lot of similarities in his play that i do when i am scum. That is carefully pointing fingers all over the place. He comments on like everything that's happening on thread, but in most of the cases this doesn't seem to be leading him anywhere. I don't know how to explain it better..

And the "you can't lynch me anyways" is really really weird thing. If he is claiming a power i can't see that being a town power at all.

So yes, i can definitely see Acro being scum. I do not think Acro and sinani are scum together.



So high high suspicion on Rayn at the moment.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 31 2013 06:46 GMT
#2211
On March 31 2013 15:38 Hapahauli wrote:
Please give your thoughts on Sinani and prplhz as well.

Basically those two, Rayn, and yourself are the only people who are "non-confirmed."


Cause for once I dont have a blue role
QQ

Prp is town, he is not the most helpful town but he has been involved in the lynches.

Im honestly not sure about sinani, his behaviour at the end of the Nisani lynch was town I think, he was so confident. And nisani was town. Its basically a 1 for 1 deal, and no scum would do it.
He couldve give a noncommittal answer, or a town read and Nisani wouldve gotten lynched anyway with marv and palmar? behind it.

So therefore,
Either marv is scum, or keirathi and cora are fakeclaiming.

If rayn flips scum, we need to take a REALLY CLOSE look at them.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 31 2013 06:52 GMT
#2214
Smurf is absolutely dead bro.

And yes I realize that probably 4 scum, and probably keir and cora are both town.

THEREFORE we lynch smurf, then we lynch rayn, then we lynch prp, then we lynch sinani, then we lynch marv and win.

Easy.

The reason I dont want to lynch marv earlier is cause we dont have to, and I might be wrong about prp and sinani.

Regardless we win I THINK.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 31 2013 07:56 GMT
#2218
Ah yes.

My point is that Acro sacrificed himself to kill 2 townies and save 1 scum and 1 possible scum.
His role said he could affect 1 lynch right? But that was 2 lynches.

Also, what do you and keir think about his reaction/posting after the kill?

Also Marv could have some kind of GF role.

Again thats why I suggested the order.

By process of elimination ok,
Sinani is the least scummy out of the 3
Marv is the least likely
I just think that prp is town.

So thats why I suggested the order.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 31 2013 15:14 GMT
#2222
Come on Keir, talk to me, im bored.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 31 2013 15:33 GMT
#2224
On March 31 2013 16:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ah yes.

My point is that Acro sacrificed himself to kill 2 townies and save 1 scum and 1 possible scum.
His role said he could affect 1 lynch right? But that was 2 lynches.

Also, what do you and keir think about his reaction/posting after the kill?

Also Marv could have some kind of GF role.

Again thats why I suggested the order.

By process of elimination ok,
Sinani is the least scummy out of the 3
Marv is the least likely
I just think that prp is town.

So thats why I suggested the order.


No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 31 2013 15:52 GMT
#2226
Rayn, im talking about fucking rayn, get your head in the game.

His role said something about he should only use his role once or he is basically dead. It might be really dead.

Also READ THE BIT WHERE I SAY WHY RAYN's CLAIM IS FAKE AND TELL ME IF YOU BELIEVE WHAT HE SAYS.

Keir wtf man.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 31 2013 16:10 GMT
#2231
I meant that by using his powers on 2 lynches he dies.
Although the timing is kinda weird.

Then scum rayn claims to shoot.

Damn.

I have a pretty strong townread on prp now,

So I would want to lynch sinani first.

If none of them flip scum.

We kill the mason pair then.

EZ.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 31 2013 16:19 GMT
#2237
??? Cora.

If prp and sinani and rayn flip town.

Who do you want to lynch?

Obviously you 2 right?

Since there is no way to verify your claim.


I cba to count if we can afford so many mislynches but meh.


Currently my list
me
Hapa
marv


Keir
Cora
SnB
Rayn?

Prp
Sinani

[b]
Smurf
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 31 2013 16:24 GMT
#2240
Assuming 4 scum.
Lets say we can mislynch 4. Cause this isnt exactly a mini and such.

Im pretty sure its not Lylo, Mylo.
Considering that Acro's death gives us another mislynch.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 31 2013 16:28 GMT
#2243
On April 01 2013 01:27 cDgCorazon wrote:
Right now this is who I think is scum:

Acro
Yamato
Prp
Rayn/Oats (leaning more towards Rayn)

I don't believe Rayn's claim. Hapa's questions pose a good point and the fact that Rayn does not have a good answer to them speaks volumes. I could see Rayn claiming as a power-play to try and get scum back into the game.

Desperate times call for desperate measures. Having 2 scummates exposed and the other one potentially on the chopping block would warrant him to claim for town vig.

What I'm guessing is:

Grack shot was made by a Jack-of-all-trades town member (as SnB proposed).
Rayn shot his scummate to get town creed out of desperation.

Does that sound too outlandish?

I proposed the JOAT.
hehe.
Why not sinani, and why Prp?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 31 2013 16:29 GMT
#2244
On April 01 2013 01:28 marvellosity wrote:
Any town member who shot Grack should claim it, regardless of whether he has outstanding powers.


Optimal town play, especially regarding blue roles does not happen all that often.

In themed, I had vengeful lynch thing.
Too bad for BH that I didnt claim then.
Still butthurt </3
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 31 2013 16:35 GMT
#2248
we kill smurf tmr.

And that probably reduces KP, no?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 31 2013 16:36 GMT
#2249
On April 01 2013 01:34 cDgCorazon wrote:
This is why I don't see Sinani as scum:

Show nested quote +
On March 31 2013 07:33 Hapahauli wrote:
Sinani initially seems more active than normal, but all he's really done is tunnel a bunch of people. I'd say of the group of four, he's the one I think is the likeliest townie due to how Acro pushed him. I do need to read into Acro's suspicions on him again just to see if it is compelling enough to vindicate Sinani completely.


I know scum can be risky, but bussing two of your scummates out of 4 total scum is borderline stupid. I don't think Acro is stupid.


Dude.
Acro could totally change the lynch to screw with us. Why not do that and hope we wifom out of lynching sinani?
What in HIS PLAY that is scummy?

Also prp.

Talk to me about prp.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 31 2013 16:43 GMT
#2252
Im bored again and its night.

Why dandel ion and OO? Seems incredibly weird especially with the 3 confirmed townies and marv.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 31 2013 16:47 GMT
#2255
Lol
Expand on that please.

What has prp posted that is useless?

Are there no other useful posts?

You know how prp plays right?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 31 2013 16:48 GMT
#2258
On April 01 2013 01:46 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 01:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im bored again and its night.

Why dandel ion and OO? Seems incredibly weird especially with the 3 confirmed townies and marv.


My guess is blue snipes. The confirmed towns were 2 masons and 1 one-shot medic who had used his shot. Not very useful to kill off.


Confirmed town in lylo situations are incredible to have.

Both of them claimed blue though, but never substantiated it.

Actually now with OO's death, I want to know who Rayn is going to push and how he does it.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 31 2013 16:49 GMT
#2259
On April 01 2013 01:47 Hapahauli wrote:
Dandel Ion and OO at some point heavily insinuated that they were cops.

OO with his marv thing.
And Dandel had a quote somewhere too that I don't remember.


Dandel confirmed that OO was town pretty much straight up, the same way OO confirmed that marv was town.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 31 2013 16:56 GMT
#2264
Um what overpowered town role is this?

multishot vigi.

Game has tons of masons.

Ok so by process of elimination.

Prp/sinani/smurf are scum

Unless hapa is playing the best game of his life.

Everyone else is either confirmed town by roles(Marv) Or claimed blue with no counterclaim.

Actually what did OO say about marv? (Checking now myself)
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