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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 28 2013 07:07 cDgCorazon wrote: I also caught half of the scum team in Personality. If you can't remember that. you tunnelled a townie (yamato) and called everyone who attacked you mafia, fortunately bagging 2 mafia in that process. Catching mafia also involves getting them lynched, rather than being lynched yourself. Just sayin' | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
3-4 scum in list. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
Seriously Marv you're not doing yourself any favors here. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 28 2013 07:10 cDgCorazon wrote: Well they would've been lynched if you hadn't decided the "magic marker" turned my flip to red. Seriously Marv you're not doing yourself any favors here. The day I care about your opinion of me is the day I give up mafia. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
D2 shall be fun. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 28 2013 07:12 prplhz wrote: Be nice guys. Trust me, this is very restrained ^_^ | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 28 2013 07:16 Hapahauli wrote: Corazon does have a point marv. You spent most of Day 1 championing 2 mislynches. Your support of lynching Kei ESPECIALLY after Kei started spamming up the thread in his defense looks rather poor given how well you know him. What? I went to make and eat dinner, I wasn't here. For your pleasure, next time a lynch comes around I will starve myself. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On March 28 2013 07:27 marvellosity wrote: I'm also probably off until tomorrow. Not sure when I'm going to have time to work on the game properly because I have a chess thingy tomorrow evening. There's too many people I'm leaning town on at the moment, which is partly down to the fact that 2 of my 3 orange reads have flipped/claimed. Looking back through your filter, did you really use "Keir is saying ':o; a bunch" as evidence of me being scum? Like, I talk to you on IRC quite often. I always use stupid emoticons. How was that even relevant AT ALL? Would be like me calling you scum for saying 'dear'. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 28 2013 07:30 Keirathi wrote: Looking back through your filter, did you really use "Keir is saying ':o; a bunch" as evidence of me being scum? Like, I talk to you on IRC quite often. I always use stupid emoticons. How was that even relevant AT ALL? Would be like me calling you scum for saying 'dear'. (ok I'm still here temporarily) This isn't IRC, and at least I hadn't noticed/remembered you doing so like you have here in other games, and I thought it was odd, so I mentioned it. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18106 Posts
3 particular things make him scum: 1. On March 26 2013 12:37 InsertSmurfHere wrote: Is he an idiot as town, too? From your filter, that is what I surmise is your opinion of him already. If that's the case, I guess you're content to let him lurk away the rest of day 1 as he intends? Or...? If Smurf is Yamato, he has played at least 2 games with a town DI (British 1 and Personality 2) and thus cannot simply claim ignorance of how DI plays as town. Even if he can be forgiven the remarkable oversight of not looking at DI's townplay, his excuse of ignorance here is a lie. 2. His scumreads: All 3 of his scumreads throughout the game:Grackaroni, Cora and Nisani. I painted Cora green, because I doubt this is a power play by the scumteam to claim mason. However, most strikingly, look how easily he jumps onto the Nisani is scum wagon. He never even mentions Nisani as a scumread until his completely irrational defense of prplhz (see point 3), when this suddenly happens: + Show Spoiler [prplhz town] + On March 27 2013 15:04 InsertSmurfHere wrote: It's quite easy. Read yamato's analysis of prplhz's meta from Nomination. When you look at his filter from LIX, it is blatantly antagonistic with town and completely uninvolved. Do these posts read trollish to you? Here he's clearly following a line of thought with a few people. While his interaction is minimal, it is far from being distant. This does not read like the mafia prplhz I know. What concerns me about all this is how lazy you are with this push on prplhz. I really think you don't know him well if you think low activity = scum in his case. What is MOST concerning, however, is how easily Nisani jumps in with you. Observe: Two posts, barely mentions prplhz, and he's on the wagon. Regardless of prplhz's alignment, this looks terrible. He's even less concerned with figuring out the game than prplhz appears to be. So... the MOST concerting part of the prplhz case is how easily Nisani jumps on the wagon. So suddenly Nisani has been bombarded to scum, as part of the whole prplhz = town crusade. From that point onwards he never even questions anything else and just blindly wants to lynch Nisani. 3. Irrational defense of prlhz. I would quote posts, but it shat up the thread for about 3 pages. I don't even think this says anything about prplhz's alignment. I can see a scum doing this for a townie (defend the innocent for townie points, when no scumbuddy is in danger of being lynched) or a scumbuddy (given that the alternative at the time was my push on Nisani, which he promptly sheeped he could have been defending his buddy), but the whole thing feels like Smurf had made up his mind before even starting to post on what prplhz's alignment was and was going to defend that stance to the death. And while some of the points he made make sense, when I looked at prplhz's filter at the time, it just read like a scum filter, so it's the complete lack of DOUBT about the alignment that strikes me. That is not the critical mindset of a townie. TLDR: lied to excuse his shoddy case, no critical mindset when analysing players and has only wanted to lynch townies. Verdict: scum. Now lets move onto everybody else. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On March 28 2013 07:32 marvellosity wrote: (ok I'm still here temporarily) This isn't IRC, and at least I hadn't noticed/remembered you doing so like you have here in other games, and I thought it was odd, so I mentioned it. You know better than to make stupid ass arguments like that. What gives? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 28 2013 07:35 Keirathi wrote: You know better than to make stupid ass arguments like that. What gives? Like I said, I mentioned it because I found it odd, and it was at most a small detail in my case against you, which didn't revolve around that at all. Anyway I really am off now  | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18106 Posts
On March 28 2013 07:07 cDgCorazon wrote: I also caught half of the scum team in Personality. If you can't remember that. While I don't want to throw oil on the fire, both you and Vivax keep priding yourselves of that, when NONE of the scumteam felt threatened by you at all at any point. When you have 0 credibility with town because you post like an irate chipmunk, you cannot actually CATCH scum, regardless of how good your reads are. This game I feel you're doing a far better job, btw. You just have to learn to focus and concentrate on convincing others of your reads, rather than pointlessly arguing with your scumspect, which leads to tunneling and nobody taking you seriously. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On March 28 2013 07:41 marvellosity wrote: Like I said, I mentioned it because I found it odd, and it was at most a small detail in my case against you, which didn't revolve around that at all. Anyway I really am off now It's not about "revolving" around it. It's that you included it at all. Hell, for the sake of argument, I went back and ctrl+f'd through my games for ':o'. I had a grand total of 1 instance in scum games (when I was arguing BL on the last day of GSL 3), and like 40'ish instances in my town games. And you, better than anyone, should know that I use emoticons in casual conversation. So, to me, that whole point was 100% an appeal to emotion. It had 0 basis in fact, and was only there to make you case look better. Do you not see why that is scummy as fuck? | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
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