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On March 28 2013 00:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar why did you think the vigi-shot was surely from mafia without thinking it out properly? It looks like you wanted the shooter to claim if they are town which would be dumb, as already pointed out, if it's a JOAT and not a one shot vigi.
That's a stupid question.
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On March 28 2013 00:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And what makes you so sure Oats is town?
he looks like town. I've had him fairly green for a long time
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On March 28 2013 02:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is Palmar town Marv?
I'm not on his team.
Anyway, I am not going to be able to catch much up until in a few hours.
Marv suggested smurf and nisani who are both null reads in my notes (although I'm feeling unusually uncertain about my reads this game, not sure what's going on).
the remaining people who are leaning scum in this sheet btw are sinani, marv, prplhz, corazon and rayn (who I've changed my mind on)
I'm feeling there's at most 2-3 scum in this list though, so at least 2-3 scum are evading my suspicions.
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On March 28 2013 03:57 Hapahauli wrote:Now as for Nisani, I just have him and Sinani labeled as lurkers. I did a brief dive through their metas last night, and basically arrived at the conclusion that they are lurk-tastic regardless of alignment. Of the two, I thought Sinani had a higher chance of flipping red. He came in and bombed a case at a time when I was railing against prplhz. Often I see scum make plays like this - slam down a confident case against a non-suspicious party in order to look original and throw the town into chaos. Furthermore, when he entered, he also randomly attacked Yamato and soft-pushed the current suspicion of the thread (prplhz) without giving any clear opinions on him: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256¤tpage=41#814His filter reads a lot like clean scum-play, and his only real contribution is his case on Nisani, which reads a lot like a lynch-bait case. Also, I really didn't get scum-vibes from Nisani's filter. Yes it's short, and yes he doesn't justify his read on prplhz very much, but the way he pushed Acro early on (and how he came off Acro) seemed fairly genuine.
I would get behind the sinani lynch.
Sinani lurks and is useless as either alignment. He's a perfect day 1 candidate for scum to lynch, but he's also hard to really read since he doesn't care at all.
He spent most of his efforts early in the day talking about the claim that OO didn't read his role pm, which to me was not even worth talking about.
He also early in the game called Nisani201 out on defending the smurf, but I can't remember how and why, can probably go look up the post, but my notes say "not in a useful way".
I would have to think long and hard about this idea of lynching nisani201 or the smurf. Neither of them have done anything to look like town, so maybe they're just both complacent scum, but it makes it very difficult for me to picture any kind of a scum team for those two players.
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On March 28 2013 04:22 Nisani201 wrote:
i just remembered why i stopped playing mafia
node graph or lynch.
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there's plenty of time for marv to push his lynch.
I had keirathi red-ish early on but at some point I swapped my read on him. I did not note down why I did it.
It's tempting to just roll with it, as I'm pretty uncertain myself. I will be back soon to think more.
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I'm going to support Sinani, Cora, reyn lynches I think. Since the last 2 are not going to happen I'm with hapa on the sinani wagon.
I don't think nisani201 will flip scum.
##Vote sinani206
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Just a heads up I honestly can't find the reason whatever it was that switched my keirathi read to slight town lean. So I guess if sinani isnt' happening I'm going to support keirathi over nisani dying.
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I'm pushing it I'm not scum
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I need to do other things for a while, in case I don't come back I'm putting my vote on keirathi.
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This is like the most uncertain I've been on day 1 in like ever.
Keirathi I'll talk to you. Tell me who should be hanging instead of you. afaik your vote is on me.
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On March 28 2013 05:57 cDgCorazon wrote:
Looks like no one is getting lynched today...well done Marv.
This looks terrible and I want to kill you.
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On March 28 2013 06:03 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 06:01 Palmar wrote:
This is like the most uncertain I've been on day 1 in like ever.
Keirathi I'll talk to you. Tell me who should be hanging instead of you. afaik your vote is on me. No, my vote is not on you and never has been. Smurf should be hanging. He was way, way, way too confident that prplhz was town based off of 6 total posts.
Actually it has been, but my bad.
smurf is certainly a possibility, I don't think we can lynch him today, but he has some pretty strange things about him.
Can you give us a read on every player in case you die. long/short/whatever.
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are you confirmed town masons?
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So they're masons that are confirmed town to each other. Can you recruit into your mason circle? hell explain your role in detail now that it's out there anyway
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On March 28 2013 06:15 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 06:13 Palmar wrote:
So they're masons that are confirmed town to each other. Can you recruit into your mason circle? hell explain your role in detail now that it's out there anyway
no, that's totally irrelevant right now. We have 45 minutes to decide the lynch.
chill out dude we'll just lynch one of the nisinanis
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Didn't Grackaroni have some kind of a mason role too, with this "circle of friends" stuff?
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On March 28 2013 06:19 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 05:20 Palmar wrote:
I'm going to support Sinani, Cora, reyn lynches I think. Since the last 2 are not going to happen I'm with hapa on the sinani wagon.
I don't think nisani201 will flip scum.
##Vote sinani206 Why the town read on Nisani?
Idk I've played like a million games with him and I don't think he'll flip town.
I don't particularly care as he's useless. any lurker lynch is good. With this recent mason information (remember they claim to be confirmed to each other so they must both be scum if this is some sort of a ruse, and the chances of that are little).
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don't think he'll flip scum* I mean
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