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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 05:47 GMT
#295
On March 26 2013 14:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 14:43 Hapahauli wrote:

@ Oats

Explain your "random reads out of nowhere" plz. Especially Smurf.


His push on Dandel is wrong, but I could see a townie being all excited that this dude is matching his previous scum meta and posting a case based on that, especially if he is irritated by those posts.
Then he seems to be quite open about not looking at dandel's town games instead of finding shit that would incriminate dandel.


Yeah, but arriving at "not-Scum" is pretty extreme.

Thoughts on SnB?


Null. Haven't seen anything allignment indicative of him. I believe he's capable of making a case like that as scum or town.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 05:55 GMT
#298
Well anyway I'm off to bed.

Need to hear more from a lot of players, particularly Grack, Marv, Smurf, and anyone who hasn't posted.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 20:46 GMT
#546
ohai. catching up.

On March 27 2013 05:17 strongandbig wrote:
I'd also very much like to hear Hapahauli's updated opinion of Marvellosity.


I've just read through his contributions to the thread overnight and I'm not impressed. Marv has 2 pages of filter, but there's basically no content in those two-pages. I'm leaning scum on marv right now because of how uncharacteristically useless he's been.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 20:51 GMT
#547
@InsertSmurfHere

When you backpedaled from your case on Dandel, your main "excuse" was that you took his behavior in British 1 and Personality 2 and made an illogical comparison.

However, it's hard to believe that you didn't make that excuse up retroactively considering how you approached your case. Not only did you make no mention of this in your original case, but your post right after I call you out on it suggests that you were completely unfamiliar with town-Dandel's meta:
On March 26 2013 12:37 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Is he an idiot as town, too?

From your filter, that is what I surmise is your opinion of him already. If that's the case, I guess you're content to let him lurk away the rest of day 1 as he intends?

Or...?


Explain good sir.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 20:56 GMT
#548
@ Cora

Your case on Rayn makes very little sense. Normally I wouldn't step in and defend a player, but Rayn is one of my strongest town-reads in the thread right now.

When someone is super-active, spammy, and reacts on the fly to new suspicions on the fly, that's like the template for paranoid townie.

Is there something I'm missing?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 21:01 GMT
#550
@ Grack

When you get back, can you give us a list of your scumreads? All I have from you right now is a relatively non-committal case on ObviousOne, and equally non-committal reads on two lurkers (Sinani/Nisani).
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 21:09 GMT
#552
On March 27 2013 06:06 Nisani201 wrote:
What the hell is wrong with Grack's "attitude" or "intention?" I don't see anything wrong with that.

It's possible that Palmar is scum. I'm more confident on Acrofales scum though.


Can you outline the reasons for Acro being scum? All I see is an active townie. He's contributed a ton this game. It seemed like you were backing off Acro last night too...

On March 27 2013 04:28 Nisani201 wrote:
Good morning everyone.

The case on Grack is really weak, and if it were made by someone other than Palmar it probably wouldn't be getting nearly as far as it is now.

Just because Smurf made a bad case doesn't mean he's scum. He looks town now and there shouldn't be any suspicion on him.

Acrofales is making a bit more sense but his case on me is just a bunch of OMGUS. Acro, who is your secondary suspect?


... so I'm not sure how you're so confident in your read.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 21:14 GMT
#554
Ok I expected a bit more resistance to a guy you were convinced was scum than that.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 21:18 GMT
#557
Yeah, but marv basically stated the same argument that I did, and you weren't convinced at all:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256&currentpage=22#439

Why were you so easily convinced in my case? I mean if you think a guy is scum, "not wanting to tunnel people" isn't an acceptable excuse to drop your suspicions.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 21:19 GMT
#560
You're stlil useless marv. 1 valid town read isn't exactly the standard I hold your town play to.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 21:51 GMT
#578
On March 27 2013 06:50 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 05:51 Hapahauli wrote:
@InsertSmurfHere

When you backpedaled from your case on Dandel, your main "excuse" was that you took his behavior in British 1 and Personality 2 and made an illogical comparison.

However, it's hard to believe that you didn't make that excuse up retroactively considering how you approached your case. Not only did you make no mention of this in your original case, but your post right after I call you out on it suggests that you were completely unfamiliar with town-Dandel's meta:
On March 26 2013 12:37 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Is he an idiot as town, too?

From your filter, that is what I surmise is your opinion of him already. If that's the case, I guess you're content to let him lurk away the rest of day 1 as he intends?

Or...?


Explain good sir.

If Smurf is Yamato, then he PLAYED with DI in at least one game where they were both town (Personality 2), so how does this even make sense?


I think that the Smurf is yamato, but I'm not sure. Secondly, let the man speak for himself. Sometimes I ask questions expecting certain answers.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 21:53 GMT
#580
@ Marv

What do you think of Cora right now? I can't tell where you're going with this line of questioning. You seem to be more interested in criticizing his play than questioning him because he's scummy or something.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 21:58 GMT
#582
@ Nisani

Why do you "want to believe" that Palmar is scum? If you think he's scum, then go after him.

Furthermore, I don't understand why you think the Grack case is bad. These are your stated reasons:

The case on Grack is really weak, and if it were made by someone other than Palmar it probably wouldn't be getting nearly as far as it is now.

The initial case on Grack was bad, it was based off of his reactions to certain things, which weren't really scummy. He didn't do anything scummy after that. As I said earlier, the only reason people are voting for him is because of Palmar.


...and they're pretty inadequate. I especially don't understand the bolded segment. The Grack case is primarily based on precisely that - that his reactions are completely objective, ungenuine, and purposeless in the context of the thread. How are his reactions not scummy? Furthermore, what in his filter to you suggests that he's town?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 22:09 GMT
#588
Hi marv. Talk to me pl0x.

On March 27 2013 06:53 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Marv

What do you think of Cora right now? I can't tell where you're going with this line of questioning. You seem to be more interested in criticizing his play than questioning him because he's scummy or something.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 22:16 GMT
#593
Marvellosity, what do you think of Corazon?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 22:23 GMT
#597
Just tell him Dandel. I'm curious to know myself. This is a fight over semantics and should be over and done with.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 22:35 GMT
#602
On March 27 2013 07:32 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 07:23 Hapahauli wrote:
Just tell him Dandel. I'm curious to know myself. This is a fight over semantics and should be over and done with.


Come to think of it, didn't you say you knew who the smurf was?


Yeah that post was a joke. Yamato had talked to me about smurfing prior to that, but I thought he wouldn't enter a game that I signed up for. Then he kinda overreacted to my post, and now I think it's Yamato.

Btw, can we just end the "who is the smurf" stuff? It's the most pointless converation ever. I want to talk about scum-reads, and not htis crap.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 22:43 GMT
#604
Everything marv is posting just feels awful.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 23:03 GMT
#612
On March 27 2013 08:01 cDgCorazon wrote:
@Marv: Perhaps because after Personality Mafia I'm not inclined to read every single bs post that everyone posts.


I don't care what happened in personality mafia - reading every post is important.

In all honesty, you need to stop asking questions and start making accusations. This is Mafia, not 20 Questions. Come at me bro. Call me scum. Make the case.

You did this same shit in Personality and I flipped town. I really don't think that you are stupid enough to repeat that mistake again, or are you?


Can you just answer his questions? It's not that hard.

There's literally no purpose in picking a fight here.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 26 2013 23:06 GMT
#615
On March 27 2013 08:04 cDgCorazon wrote:
Because I didn't read his post. I didn't bother. I don't know how much more obvious I can make that.


So read it and answer his question.

I don't care if you think it's "BS" or whatever. Atleast attempt to answer it once, because it helps other players (such as myself) understand your motives.
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