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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
March 27 2013 19:25 GMT
#1021
Also I don't remember who it was or where it was but someone in the past ~5 pages said that "we need to consolidate our votes on either nisani or smurf" and whoever said that is probably scum.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
March 27 2013 19:53 GMT
#1052
On March 28 2013 04:45 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 04:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cora why is Nisani worse than sinani?


Because Sinani has at least explained his vote somewhat (that Nisani is scum). Sinani has also done a slightly better job being active in the thread and responding to different topics brought up, whereas the majority of Nisani's filter is him talking about Palmar and Grack.

When it comes down to people playing this anti-town of games we have to start nitpicking stuff and looking at details like this.

This post is untrue. And horrible.

I would be down with a Kei lynch.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
March 27 2013 20:15 GMT
#1093
On March 28 2013 04:59 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 04:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Sinani is Scum. Here's why:

1) He has a HUGE HISTORY playing with Nisani! He of all people should understand how to read Nisani very well. Instead, his case...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256&currentpage=41#809
... is completely comprised of stuff that is in Nisani's town games as well!



I would say that this is a very valid point.

It's partly why I'm very interested in hearing what Nisani has to say about sinani.

I don't have any special insight into how Sinani plays mafia. Anyone who's played with him in the past knows his playstyle, and that he's very hard to read. The only content in his filter is the case against me, which is horrible but indicative of nothing.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
March 27 2013 20:17 GMT
#1099
Gonna throw my vote on Kei, even though I'm probably dead.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
March 27 2013 20:18 GMT
#1100
On March 28 2013 05:16 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
On March 28 2013 05:11 sinani206 wrote:
On March 28 2013 05:05 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 28 2013 05:02 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 28 2013 04:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 28 2013 04:55 cDgCorazon wrote:
@Marv and Oats:

Right now, adding in the Kei case is anti-consolidation. Because a lack of consolidation would mean a no-lynch, anti-consolidation would mean anti-town.

Why are you guys trying to add in another case to steal potential votes away from Nisani? To save your scumbuddy by forcing a no-lynch, yet at the same time looking like you are scum hunting?

It's not very hard to see through your ruse, Marv.

My town read on you = gone.


Why the fuck does marv pushing another player from you mean that he is scum??

You seem 100% sure that Nisani is scum. Why are you so sure?


I'm not 100% sure Nisani is scum, but I'm more sure about him than I am with Yamato. There's no use making a hipster vote because we need to lynch someone today. A no-lynch would only leave us with more questions and give the scum a huge victory for D1.

It's not because he is pushing a different players, it's because he is pushing a new read so close to the deadline. It reeks of trying to save Nisani from being lynched.

@Hapa: I think you are putting way too much faith in Nisani's meta. I went and read his vote on Acro and there's not much beside him quoting one scummy sentence and saying that Acro doesn't have much else in his filter so he must be scum. His vote on prp is absolutely silly, and he has refused to give a reason. Just like you shouldn't build cases solely on metas, you shouldn't build defenses solely on metas.


Fuck me I need to do a podcast on meta. All y'alls have no idea what you're doing when it comes to it.

Meta is fantastic for highlight broad/general differences in mentality. In Nisani's case, he has very two different mindsets between his scum and town games wiht a HUGE sample-size to back it up.

While he's a lurker in all his games, his town games are markedly more productive. He pushes cases, and tries to scumhunt, and all his posts are towards an objective purpose. When he's scum, he's "chatty," "trolly," and barely contributes.

And this is consistent over MANY MANY of his games. 4 scumgames, and many more town games.



Nisani plays very similarly as scum and town, and according to you, I know him well. This knowledge of him allows me to determine whether he is scum or town more efficiently than others (hint: you) who seem to be extremely confused


Could you tell me what distinguishes his scum and townplay then? What are you seeing here that you see in his usual mafia play but not his town play?


As town, Nisani generally uses very logical analysis to determine who is scum and will stay confident on said player. As scum, Nisani is unsure and just tries to win favor of the town without being too aggressive, which is what he has done in this game.

ok you're scum
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
March 27 2013 20:20 GMT
#1104
On March 28 2013 05:19 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 05:18 Nisani201 wrote:
On March 28 2013 05:16 sinani206 wrote:
On March 28 2013 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
On March 28 2013 05:11 sinani206 wrote:
On March 28 2013 05:05 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 28 2013 05:02 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 28 2013 04:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 28 2013 04:55 cDgCorazon wrote:
@Marv and Oats:

Right now, adding in the Kei case is anti-consolidation. Because a lack of consolidation would mean a no-lynch, anti-consolidation would mean anti-town.

Why are you guys trying to add in another case to steal potential votes away from Nisani? To save your scumbuddy by forcing a no-lynch, yet at the same time looking like you are scum hunting?

It's not very hard to see through your ruse, Marv.

My town read on you = gone.


Why the fuck does marv pushing another player from you mean that he is scum??

You seem 100% sure that Nisani is scum. Why are you so sure?


I'm not 100% sure Nisani is scum, but I'm more sure about him than I am with Yamato. There's no use making a hipster vote because we need to lynch someone today. A no-lynch would only leave us with more questions and give the scum a huge victory for D1.

It's not because he is pushing a different players, it's because he is pushing a new read so close to the deadline. It reeks of trying to save Nisani from being lynched.

@Hapa: I think you are putting way too much faith in Nisani's meta. I went and read his vote on Acro and there's not much beside him quoting one scummy sentence and saying that Acro doesn't have much else in his filter so he must be scum. His vote on prp is absolutely silly, and he has refused to give a reason. Just like you shouldn't build cases solely on metas, you shouldn't build defenses solely on metas.


Fuck me I need to do a podcast on meta. All y'alls have no idea what you're doing when it comes to it.

Meta is fantastic for highlight broad/general differences in mentality. In Nisani's case, he has very two different mindsets between his scum and town games wiht a HUGE sample-size to back it up.

While he's a lurker in all his games, his town games are markedly more productive. He pushes cases, and tries to scumhunt, and all his posts are towards an objective purpose. When he's scum, he's "chatty," "trolly," and barely contributes.

And this is consistent over MANY MANY of his games. 4 scumgames, and many more town games.



Nisani plays very similarly as scum and town, and according to you, I know him well. This knowledge of him allows me to determine whether he is scum or town more efficiently than others (hint: you) who seem to be extremely confused


Could you tell me what distinguishes his scum and townplay then? What are you seeing here that you see in his usual mafia play but not his town play?


As town, Nisani generally uses very logical analysis to determine who is scum and will stay confident on said player. As scum, Nisani is unsure and just tries to win favor of the town without being too aggressive, which is what he has done in this game.

ok you're scum

ok why

Because your extreme overgeneralization of my playstyle is total horseshit.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
March 27 2013 20:22 GMT
#1111
On March 28 2013 05:21 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 05:20 Nisani201 wrote:
On March 28 2013 05:19 sinani206 wrote:
On March 28 2013 05:18 Nisani201 wrote:
On March 28 2013 05:16 sinani206 wrote:
On March 28 2013 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
On March 28 2013 05:11 sinani206 wrote:
On March 28 2013 05:05 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 28 2013 05:02 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 28 2013 04:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
[quote]

Why the fuck does marv pushing another player from you mean that he is scum??

You seem 100% sure that Nisani is scum. Why are you so sure?


I'm not 100% sure Nisani is scum, but I'm more sure about him than I am with Yamato. There's no use making a hipster vote because we need to lynch someone today. A no-lynch would only leave us with more questions and give the scum a huge victory for D1.

It's not because he is pushing a different players, it's because he is pushing a new read so close to the deadline. It reeks of trying to save Nisani from being lynched.

@Hapa: I think you are putting way too much faith in Nisani's meta. I went and read his vote on Acro and there's not much beside him quoting one scummy sentence and saying that Acro doesn't have much else in his filter so he must be scum. His vote on prp is absolutely silly, and he has refused to give a reason. Just like you shouldn't build cases solely on metas, you shouldn't build defenses solely on metas.


Fuck me I need to do a podcast on meta. All y'alls have no idea what you're doing when it comes to it.

Meta is fantastic for highlight broad/general differences in mentality. In Nisani's case, he has very two different mindsets between his scum and town games wiht a HUGE sample-size to back it up.

While he's a lurker in all his games, his town games are markedly more productive. He pushes cases, and tries to scumhunt, and all his posts are towards an objective purpose. When he's scum, he's "chatty," "trolly," and barely contributes.

And this is consistent over MANY MANY of his games. 4 scumgames, and many more town games.



Nisani plays very similarly as scum and town, and according to you, I know him well. This knowledge of him allows me to determine whether he is scum or town more efficiently than others (hint: you) who seem to be extremely confused


Could you tell me what distinguishes his scum and townplay then? What are you seeing here that you see in his usual mafia play but not his town play?


As town, Nisani generally uses very logical analysis to determine who is scum and will stay confident on said player. As scum, Nisani is unsure and just tries to win favor of the town without being too aggressive, which is what he has done in this game.

ok you're scum

ok why

Because your extreme overgeneralization of my playstyle is total horseshit.

And that makes me mafia?

Yes, I think you're deliberately lying.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
March 27 2013 21:01 GMT
#1143
OK what is the current votecount?
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
March 27 2013 21:11 GMT
#1157
damnit
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
March 27 2013 21:25 GMT
#1195
Well sinani is still a liar so he's the best lynch for now.

##Unvote
##Vote sinani206
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
March 27 2013 21:32 GMT
#1208
I don't really know who else is mafia. I was thinking Cora was suspicious but he's probably not scum.

I'll have to look things over.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
March 27 2013 21:53 GMT
#1241
On March 28 2013 06:32 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 06:28 Palmar wrote:
don't think he'll flip scum* I mean


The thing is with sinani. Look at his last 3 mafia games on the database. He basically doesn't post.

He's already posted more in this game than any of those 3 games where he was potentially alive for days. I'm not seeing it.

Just because he's posting more in this game or "cares more" about this game doesn't mean he's scum/town. He has been apathetic as both scum and town, so that's indicative of nothing.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
March 27 2013 22:00 GMT
#1264
i think i'm gonna do this shadowing thing because i clearly have no idea what the fuck i'm doing
Enjoy your day.
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