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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
March 27 2013 01:01 GMT
#671
On March 27 2013 09:56 Keirathi wrote:
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On March 27 2013 09:48 Grackaroni wrote:
This game has honestly gotten me pretty flustered but I have no intention giving up. I feel completely unconfident in my reads so now I'm just going to start anew. I'm going to spend the next 4-5 hours carefully reading and analyzing the thread from the beginning until I can get some scum reads I feel truly confident about.

One thing that definitely needs correcting is my read on Palmar. I used to believe that Palmar was much lazier as scum and berated him pretty hard in a previous game for it. (and I was actually lucky and was correct that he was scum and he was being lazy) In reality Palmar is frequently lazy as town and has played several active scum games. My logic was flawed from the start when I thought that him being active in this game made him more likely to be town, it really doesn't. from an admittedly biased point of view right now, I think that Palmar has been fostering a bad town atmosphere and seems more focused. on getting people to sheep him than finding out whether his read is correct.

TLDR: I want to correct my previously flawed reasoning. I will take a less neutral stance on him (and others) by the end of the night.

On March 27 2013 04:24 ObviousOne wrote:
Who else is scum besides me, Grack? Am I the only scum in this game?

I'm happy to be wrong about you if you would just do something more useful than tunnel me all day. You're just staying the course though and it bothers me.

I also don't like this reaction to my post. I literally made ONE post on him and all of a sudden I'm tunneling him all day? For somebody who is adamant that I am scum he either hasn't examined/analyzed my filter very closely or he is maliciously misconstruing my posts.

But....your stance wasn't neutral? You gave a rather detailed explanation of why you thought Palmar was town. That is the opposite of neutral.

Argg, why does everything you post feel so defensive and backpeddling-y :o

I don't mean that original post I mean the post I made right now. I think we all know there was going to be at least one person arguing that I didn't call Palmar scum in that post.... and really... so what. If I'm not sure whether Palmar is scum then I'm not sure whether Palmar is scum. I'm not going to fake like I'm super confident in my reads because I just haven't been so far, but that's what everybody in the thread has wanted me to do...
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
March 27 2013 01:29 GMT
#676
On March 27 2013 10:15 marvellosity wrote:
Ugh - I retract what I said about over-explained town-read. Palmar actually asked for an explanation about it like that.

This is exactly the kind of thing that makes me pissed off. If you are going to run around saying that I am the best lynch you should have at least put in the effort to read the actual exchange in the thread.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
March 27 2013 01:34 GMT
#679
On March 27 2013 10:28 ObviousOne wrote:
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On March 27 2013 10:15 marvellosity wrote:
Ugh - I retract what I said about over-explained town-read. Palmar actually asked for an explanation about it like that.

Yeah... thanks for pointing this out, this actually runs counter to one of my points against Grackeroni. I am going to take another look at my stance because that was the major reason why I decided to tunnel in. Need to re-evaluate, I'm going to unvote for now and I'll be back in a few hours after raid night is over.

and seriously..... reallly.... Do you even read my posts? I pointed this exact thing out in my post. I said that you didn't read the thread closely or didn't filter Palmar because you would have known that my post on Palmar didn't come out of the blue. and then you came back with "Whereas Grack is literally making shit up about me to get me lynched." But now when Marv says it all of a sudden you notice. And people wonder why I've been less than motivated this game.


On March 27 2013 02:53 marvellosity wrote:
Grackeroni is an infinitely better lynch than either rayn or Obvious. Obvious isn't playing scared at all which was the overarching theme of his play in Hydra Mafia (even with VE for support).

Acro, I'll check what you said about Nisani when I'm home and have some time later.

Meh I was mostly right. You haven't mentioned anyone else you think is a better lynch.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
March 27 2013 01:36 GMT
#680
On March 27 2013 10:30 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 10:29 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 27 2013 10:15 marvellosity wrote:
Ugh - I retract what I said about over-explained town-read. Palmar actually asked for an explanation about it like that.

This is exactly the kind of thing that makes me pissed off. If you are going to run around saying that I am the best lynch you should have at least put in the effort to read the actual exchange in the thread.


Are you complaining at me in particular? I've not said you're the best lynch, and I voluntarily corrected myself on something I missed on the first pass.

And you also really have to question why I don't know who you want to lynch if that was not you telling the thread who you think is the best lynch.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
March 27 2013 01:42 GMT
#683
On March 27 2013 10:38 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 10:34 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 27 2013 10:28 ObviousOne wrote:
On March 27 2013 10:15 marvellosity wrote:
Ugh - I retract what I said about over-explained town-read. Palmar actually asked for an explanation about it like that.

Yeah... thanks for pointing this out, this actually runs counter to one of my points against Grackeroni. I am going to take another look at my stance because that was the major reason why I decided to tunnel in. Need to re-evaluate, I'm going to unvote for now and I'll be back in a few hours after raid night is over.

and seriously..... reallly.... Do you even read my posts? I pointed this exact thing out in my post. I said that you didn't read the thread closely or didn't filter Palmar because you would have known that my post on Palmar didn't come out of the blue. and then you came back with "Whereas Grack is literally making shit up about me to get me lynched." But now when Marv says it all of a sudden you notice. And people wonder why I've been less than motivated this game.


On March 27 2013 02:53 marvellosity wrote:
Grackeroni is an infinitely better lynch than either rayn or Obvious. Obvious isn't playing scared at all which was the overarching theme of his play in Hydra Mafia (even with VE for support).

Acro, I'll check what you said about Nisani when I'm home and have some time later.

Meh I was mostly right. You haven't mentioned anyone else you think is a better lynch.


I'll give you one tip for understanding my play. Don't "read" into my posts what isn't there. I say what I mean to say. In this case, I meant to say that you're a better lynch than rayn or Obvious. If when you say "marv thinks I'm the best lynch in the game" you mean "marv thinks I'm the best lynch out of these 3/16 players" then you would be correct. Because that's what I said.

Like honestly why are you saying that I'm the best lynch out of these 3/16 players rather than just saying who you want to lynch/who is the best lynch. What is the point of that? If that's not you saying who you want to lynch than I have absolutely no idea so far who you want to lynch.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
March 27 2013 02:16 GMT
#696
On March 27 2013 11:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nobody is going to vote OO/Oats/Smurf either way whatever i say. And Grack has not dona anythig useful. I would be okay switching into one of those three or Nisani/prplhz, but nobody is going to listen to me anyways so what the hell. Better to trust people i trust are town then.

lol see what the hell is this. I thought he was town but nobody is going to listen to me so now I'll just vote for town.
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